EPTThe ONLY thing that this poll reflects is that it is easier to get to Master and GM as Terran and Protoss, and hardest to get out of the lower leagues as Zerg.
The vast majority are obviously going to say that the race THEY play is the toughest.
Poll: Hardest race to play at each level of SC2? - Page 7
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
The ONLY thing that this poll reflects is that it is easier to get to Master and GM as Terran and Protoss, and hardest to get out of the lower leagues as Zerg. The vast majority are obviously going to say that the race THEY play is the toughest. | ||
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
Zerg can easily hotkey all hatcheries together and making units is easy, and effective at a low level. Protoss don't need many non-gateway units, really, and those units usually take such a long time to build and there are so few that the production isn't hard. You can probably have one robotics or one stargate and then you don't have to worry about the MBS issue. Terran, though, is a lot harder. You have to constantly check up on your barracks, and there's no way to know how close they are to needing you to queue another unit, and players will often just queue up a bunch of units. Not only this, but Terran is practically forced to get units from multiple types of production facilities. You can't go Bio without Medivacs. You could try to go mech although without Vikings that's pretty tough, and even if you went all ground mech it requires way more micro and positioning than bio so that also counts as "hard." In addition, with Warp Gates and Hatcheries you cannot queue, so players will be forced to just get more of them to spend their money, and this allows players to easily macro better. People say Zerg, but Creep spread is not really important at all in the lower leagues. Obviously if you're less good than July you don't have to worry about Creep yet. Pure Macro is a better focus for your APM. Injects are still important, but it's not as big of a deal as the ability to turn larvae into units. Lower level players tend to stack up larvae even with poor injects. I think Terran is probably the hardest race at most levels. In the higher levels (higher than I am) I can't say for sure, but they are probably good enough at macro that it doesn't matter. | ||
Devilgoat
Korea (South)41 Posts
On KR server.. this poll obviously isn't applicable though. ^.^ | ||
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Demizzle
Australia397 Posts
On October 02 2011 17:46 Elean wrote: Terran is obviously the most figured out race, Are you kidding? Terran is the LEAST figured out race. They just have so much crap that it doesn't even matter anyway. Just look at how long it took for people to incorporate blue flame hellions or hunter seeker missles. This shit was so popular in beta but oops... One nerf and "oh look, it must be useless now! Guess it's back to good ol' marine marauder/marine tank!" | ||
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Papulatus
United States669 Posts
Zerg is by far the hardest race at all levels. | ||
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lowercase
Canada1047 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
Because I feel that they can - theoretically - get more out of micro in battles than the other races. Now granted, I also think that Terran is OP, personal opinion, so I am probably biased - but I think that when your skill is incredibly high (read: best koreans), you get to a point where, as Z and P, your decision making and what you chose to do is the most important, whereas for Terran, I feel that you can get more and more effective with better and better micro. | ||
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Bio
Canada185 Posts
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On October 02 2011 23:21 Zorkmid wrote: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. The ONLY thing that this poll reflects is that it is easier to get to Master and GM as Terran and Protoss, and hardest to get out of the lower leagues as Zerg. The vast majority are obviously going to say that the race THEY play is the toughest. What are you even talk about? A poll's shown that the majority of TLers are zerg, so why would terran and protoss be voted as the hardest race if this is the case, and why would there be terran be harder at diamond and master with protoss at the last, and protoss at grandmaster with terran at the last? Logic, your post makes none. On October 02 2011 23:48 Papulatus wrote: People are still perpetuating the myth that protoss is hard to play at masters? I'm a zerg main, and after losing to tons of protoss on ladder, I queued up as protoss for a match and stomped a protoss who had played 600 ladder games this season in a 25 minute game. I then wrecked a zerg ez. Zerg is by far the hardest race at all levels. I'm a masters protoss and have queued up as terran and zerg and beat other masters fairly handedly sometimes. Isn't random anecdotal evidence based off a few games just fun? Are we going to pretend that a 10/15 minute marine/tank push or a quick third into mass roach is hard? | ||
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Elasticity
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On October 02 2011 23:48 Papulatus wrote: People are still perpetuating the myth that protoss is hard to play at masters? I'm a zerg main, and after losing to tons of protoss on ladder, I queued up as protoss for a match and stomped a protoss who had played 600 ladder games this season in a 25 minute game. I then wrecked a zerg ez. Zerg is by far the hardest race at all levels. And that proves what? I also off-raced as Zerg at High Masters / Grandmaster level and in my first ZvZ ever i beat a known Grandmaster player. Does that mean Protoss caps my skill, and if i would play Zerg i would already be a known Grandmaster player? No. And no, it wasn't a build order loss, on top of it it was Meta close air, so both had full scout. Your post doesn't add anything, it's just flamebaiting. | ||
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Cosmos
Belgium1077 Posts
On October 02 2011 17:07 iamke55 wrote: Results seem spot on. I'll never understand how anyone below diamond plays Zerg, as it just takes too much higher level thinking for people who have trouble avoid supply blocks. At the diamond and master level, Terran needs a lot of micro to overcome Zerg and Protoss' AOE unit compositions that can 1a for the win. At the pro level, Protoss players need to make extremely subtle reads on scouting information, never take their eyes off the minimap and react instantly to any dots that appear on it, and defend vs pressure using the minimum number of units possible to maintain the tech lead needed to win. This, zerg is hardest until mid/top master (because to play zerg well, you just need tons of games to be able to interpret what your scouting shows you) where it is terran and in pro level it is protoss, because you have to "guess" where roach/hydra and marine/marauder drop will occure and stuff like that. | ||
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Tuk
United Kingdom223 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On October 03 2011 00:01 Knightess wrote: So we can conclude that Terran is the easiest race to play? I doubt it >_> I can't play Terran that well as Zerg or Protoss Different strokes for different folks, each of the three races are designed quite differently and require a different skill set to do well, Terran undoubtedly have the biggest toolkit under their belts. At the end of the day which ever race the community decides is hardest to play comes down to which ever race is struggling the most in the current meta-game, right now it is Protoss, if you were to take this poll 5-6months ago then Protoss would most likely be voted the easiest to play at the highest level On October 02 2011 17:07 iamke55 wrote: Results seem spot on. I'll never understand how anyone below diamond plays Zerg, as it just takes too much higher level thinking for people who have trouble avoid supply blocks. At the diamond and master level, Terran needs a lot of micro to overcome Zerg and Protoss' AOE unit compositions that can 1a for the win. At the pro level, Protoss players need to make extremely subtle reads on scouting information, never take their eyes off the minimap and react instantly to any dots that appear on it, and defend vs pressure using the minimum number of units possible to maintain the tech lead needed to win. I use to think that, but then I realized that although that may be the minimum requirement to play the race somewhat well, you don't have to play any of the races well at the lower levels to actually win. Bronze-Diamond isn't exactly D- material, when you go that far down the shear amount of mistakes and poor play out weigh the difficulty of the race | ||
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Coutcha
Canada519 Posts
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On October 02 2011 23:48 Papulatus wrote: People are still perpetuating the myth that protoss is hard to play at masters? I'm a zerg main, and after losing to tons of protoss on ladder, I queued up as protoss for a match and stomped a protoss who had played 600 ladder games this season in a 25 minute game. I then wrecked a zerg ez. Zerg is by far the hardest race at all levels. Of course your anecdote must prove your point. "I offraced as P and beat EVERYBODY, therefore P fucking ez." | ||
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Gimix
United States67 Posts
1. How many voters can honestly say they've played each race enough to make this judgement? There are like 30 random players in grandmasters across the world. How many people are just picking a race they think is hardest without ever having actually tried any others? 2. There are currently more votes than there are grandmasters / pros. So don't take the data from this poll too seriously. | ||
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On October 02 2011 23:21 Zorkmid wrote: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. The ONLY thing that this poll reflects is that it is easier to get to Master and GM as Terran and Protoss, and hardest to get out of the lower leagues as Zerg. The vast majority are obviously going to say that the race THEY play is the toughest. No, the results and comments dont reflect that at all. | ||
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