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On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races.
No, Bad Idea, but they can put more maps that are bad for terran (If such thing exist?!?!!?)
usually, maps that "protoss > terran", makes "terran > zerg" and maps that "zerg > terran", makes "terran > protoss".
terran is just too versatile.
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I didn't buy it. Many reasons, lack of tastosis, lack of toss, too much tvt.
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On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans.
On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever.
On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring.
On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time.
Actually its the best idea to fix the situation.
The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran.
It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other.
Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans?
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People don't like TvT? why? it's the most diverse match up with the most developed and intricate metagame so far in ANY of the match up, not to say mirrors
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Don't lose faith people, really good protosses are coming into code S, MC will come back soon i hope, Huk is doing really well in code S too. Zerg have yugiho who can be really good and nestea/losira are already so badass.DRG is in code S too. There is not a lot of really good Terran in code S. MVP/MMA/GANZI/MKP maybe TAEJA and Supernova can be count in it (i'm talking about top notch terran). Others are good in TvT and not bad in an other match up but that's pretty much all.
Don't lose faith, diversity will come...
Edit: i love watching TvT but i love PvZ too and ZvZ are kind of fun time to time. It's not a matter of loving it or not, i just want to see something else.
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On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans?
It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players.
To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period.
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Best players in the world? Insta-buy. I don't really understand the frustration. P will rise again. But for now it's GomTvT, and I'm fine with that.
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I did buy it, but Terran is Blizzards fault.
The thing that is pissing me off the most is the milking by GOM. Since 2010 I've spent about $300 on GOM tickets and the recent AOL tournament forces you to pay to even watch live......
I hope SC2 appears on OGN soon because Korean commentators >>> Tastosis (even though I cant even understand Korean). Or at least give access to the GOM Korean commentators.
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On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period.
You don't have to include random there are 3 races.
You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place.
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I didn't buy it for the first time this year. I don't have time to keep up with all of it, especially with so many TvTs which tend to be long games.
I would really prefer the GSL to be the Top 10 players of each race + 2 the next two highest ranked players or invitees. I think the diversity would really spice it up and we'd still have at least the 12 top players in Korea.
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On September 29 2011 08:45 sc2trainer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period. You don't have to include random there are 3 races. You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place.
They deserve to be there because they earned their Code S spots, just handing out Code S spots for more diversity is plain wrong.
Edit: Also just because it is TvT heavy right now does not mean it is going to be TvT heavy in Code S forever, look at Code A if those players manage to do well in the Up&Down matches then it is going to be more diverse.
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Code A has 1 terran left. GSL is going to be fine
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On September 29 2011 08:40 Highways wrote:
I did buy it, but Terran is Blizzards fault.
The thing that is pissing me off the most is the milking by GOM. Since 2010 I've spent about $300 on GOM tickets and the recent AOL tournament forces you to pay to even watch live......
I hope SC2 appears on OGN soon because Korean commentators >>> Tastosis (even though I cant even understand Korean). Or at least give access to the GOM Korean commentators.
300 dollars? wtf? You know you don't have to get ad free all the time right?
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On September 29 2011 08:46 Mylkyjo wrote:
I didn't buy it for the first time this year. I don't have time to keep up with all of it, especially with so many TvTs which tend to be long games.
I would really prefer the GSL to be the Top 10 players of each race + 2 the next two highest ranked players or invitees. I think the diversity would really spice it up and we'd still have at least the 12 top players in Korea.
see other people agree, its a perfectly reasonable idea
On September 29 2011 08:47 Kieofire wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:45 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period. You don't have to include random there are 3 races. You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place. They deserve to be there because they earned their Code S spots, just handing out Code S spots for more diversity is plain wrong.
Why? What people want to see are good players playing all the matchups. If they want their spots they can switch to a race they think they can place in.
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On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran.
Terran doesn't have the most players in Korea, Protoss does. There is also no reason to think that the people who picked Terran or some how magically better at Starcraft.
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I missed last season because of vacation but I bought this season. There are problems but this is still the competition to watch when you want to see the best players in the world.
Code A doesn't have that many terrans left and the games are quite entertaining. This competition moves too fast at the start for my liking but I would still buy the ticket just to watch code A.
Code S has something like a million terrans left but (sorry tvt haters) I actually like TvT. It can get a little boring when there is those 60 minute position mech games, but you get to watch tiny positional advantages win the game. In addition, not every TvT goes that direction. Some go bio-mech and once you start throwing in ghosts, nukes, and two maxed terran armies clashing, that final battle can be so entertaining as to make the whole thing worth it.
That said, I'm often bored when not watching starcraft, so maybe I'm just easily entertained.
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On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:46 Mylkyjo wrote:
I didn't buy it for the first time this year. I don't have time to keep up with all of it, especially with so many TvTs which tend to be long games.
I would really prefer the GSL to be the Top 10 players of each race + 2 the next two highest ranked players or invitees. I think the diversity would really spice it up and we'd still have at least the 12 top players in Korea. see other people agree, its a perfectly reasonable idea Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:47 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:45 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period. You don't have to include random there are 3 races. You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place. They deserve to be there because they earned their Code S spots, just handing out Code S spots for more diversity is plain wrong. Why? What people want to see are good players playing all the matchups. If they want their spots they can switch to a race they think they can place in.
That's completely stupid. First of all, people would STILL complain if the top players from one race lost to the other anyway and the race kept winning the tournaments or being in the finals regardless so it wouldn't be entertaining. If the other scenario was true, the top players from protoss, zerg, and terran were on an even footing, then that proves that the game is balanced at the highest level so there is no reason to limit players per race.
It's a stupid idea and changes nothing.
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On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:46 Mylkyjo wrote:
I didn't buy it for the first time this year. I don't have time to keep up with all of it, especially with so many TvTs which tend to be long games.
I would really prefer the GSL to be the Top 10 players of each race + 2 the next two highest ranked players or invitees. I think the diversity would really spice it up and we'd still have at least the 12 top players in Korea. see other people agree, its a perfectly reasonable idea
Well he changed your idea which was terrible. Some reserved slots might be ok, but across the board would be horrible.
On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:47 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:45 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period. You don't have to include random there are 3 races. You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place. They deserve to be there because they earned their Code S spots, just handing out Code S spots for more diversity is plain wrong. Why? What people want to see are good players playing all the matchups. If they want their spots they can switch to a race they think they can place in.
Forcing people to change races due to popularity or because you can't surpass the top players of your chosen race turns the competition into a farce and game quality is going to fall off really, really fast if players are constantly switching races due to current population balances.
That or they'll just go to other tournaments, which again, makes the competitive integrity of GSL a joke.
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On September 29 2011 08:57 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:46 Mylkyjo wrote:
I didn't buy it for the first time this year. I don't have time to keep up with all of it, especially with so many TvTs which tend to be long games.
I would really prefer the GSL to be the Top 10 players of each race + 2 the next two highest ranked players or invitees. I think the diversity would really spice it up and we'd still have at least the 12 top players in Korea. see other people agree, its a perfectly reasonable idea Well he changed your idea which was terrible. Some reserved slots might be ok, but across the board would be horrible. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:47 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:45 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period. You don't have to include random there are 3 races. You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place. They deserve to be there because they earned their Code S spots, just handing out Code S spots for more diversity is plain wrong. Why? What people want to see are good players playing all the matchups. If they want their spots they can switch to a race they think they can place in. Forcing people to change races due to popularity or because you can't surpass the top players of your chosen race turns the competition into a farce and game quality is going to fall off really, really fast if players are constantly switching races due to current population balances. That or they'll just go to other tournaments, which again, makes the competitive integrity of GSL a joke.
Was about ready to type that.
I'll just add that pros might be decent at playing other races but it will take a huge amount of time to be able to compete with the best players in Code S, so what that dude you are quoting is saying is that he would like to see matches that would be more diverse but less fun to watch because of skill gaps.
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On September 29 2011 08:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:46 Mylkyjo wrote:
I didn't buy it for the first time this year. I don't have time to keep up with all of it, especially with so many TvTs which tend to be long games.
I would really prefer the GSL to be the Top 10 players of each race + 2 the next two highest ranked players or invitees. I think the diversity would really spice it up and we'd still have at least the 12 top players in Korea. see other people agree, its a perfectly reasonable idea On September 29 2011 08:47 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:45 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period. You don't have to include random there are 3 races. You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place. They deserve to be there because they earned their Code S spots, just handing out Code S spots for more diversity is plain wrong. Why? What people want to see are good players playing all the matchups. If they want their spots they can switch to a race they think they can place in. That's completely stupid. First of all, people would STILL complain if the top players from one race lost to the other anyway and the race kept winning the tournaments or being in the finals regardless so it wouldn't be entertaining. If the other scenario was true, the top players from protoss, zerg, and terran were on an even footing, then that proves that the game is balanced at the highest level so there is no reason to limit players per race. It's a stupid idea and changes nothing.
It doesn't matter if people complained as long as they watched. And right now there are too many terrans and people don't want to watch anymore. Do you see the poll?
It's proving extremely difficult for Blizzard to balance their game all around and at the highest level as they said they would. To smooth the situation, providing an equal number of positions for each race makes sense.
One race wouldn't keep losing to the other. The problem is there is a large number of terrans, and if each game has an element of luck they have the biggest chances of winning because of their numbers.
On September 29 2011 08:57 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:46 Mylkyjo wrote:
I didn't buy it for the first time this year. I don't have time to keep up with all of it, especially with so many TvTs which tend to be long games.
I would really prefer the GSL to be the Top 10 players of each race + 2 the next two highest ranked players or invitees. I think the diversity would really spice it up and we'd still have at least the 12 top players in Korea. see other people agree, its a perfectly reasonable idea Well he changed your idea which was terrible. Some reserved slots might be ok, but across the board would be horrible. Show nested quote +On September 29 2011 08:50 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:47 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:45 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:39 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:36 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:20 Dodgin wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That might actually be the worst idea i've ever heard. Let's force players to change races or remove them because it just so happens that there are a lot of terrans. On September 29 2011 08:20 zeru wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. That's the worst idea ever. On September 29 2011 08:22 Kieofire wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Yeah bad idea...if you start bringing over people who don't deserve/earn the spot then there will be a huge skill gap and make games way boring. On September 29 2011 08:22 Fluffboll wrote:On September 29 2011 08:18 sc2trainer wrote:On September 29 2011 08:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
There isn't anything Gom can do about it that wouldn't cause more harm to the tournament than it would help.
That's a fact. Force equal number of positions for all 3 races. Got to echo the others and say this is the worst idea I've heard in a very long time. Actually its the best idea to fix the situation. The only reason so many terrans win is because everyone plays terran. It's best from an entertainment perspective to allow an equivalent number of best players from each race to play each other. Look how many people said no gsl b/c terrans? It is a horrible idea. If you do this you need to have 8 spots in Code S reserved for Random players too and there are NOT that many good Random players. To simply kick people out of the GSL because they play a certain race no matter if they win or not is just dumb period. You don't have to include random there are 3 races. You wouldn't be kicking people out of the gsl, you'd be removing excess terrans that shouldn't be there in the first place. They deserve to be there because they earned their Code S spots, just handing out Code S spots for more diversity is plain wrong. Why? What people want to see are good players playing all the matchups. If they want their spots they can switch to a race they think they can place in. Forcing people to change races due to popularity or because you can't surpass the top players of your chosen race turns the competition into a farce and game quality is going to fall off really, really fast if players are constantly switching races due to current population balances. That or they'll just go to other tournaments, which again, makes the competitive integrity of GSL a joke.
Players don't switch teams in sports constantly? If someone has the skill to switch races constantly and continue placing top in the gsl I think that would be amazing.
You people overreact way too much.
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