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On September 28 2011 13:00 Rorschach wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 11:35 lysergic wrote:
I had wrist tendonitis so I started using a wrist brace (Futuro), and ended up getting shoulder tendonitis from it. Better to learn correct posture, have a nice ergonomic chair, and make sure your keyboard/monitor/mouse setup is how it should be. Force yourself to have your wrist float above the keyboard the way it should, rather than using a crutch.
Also, do NOT use wrist rests, especially for your mouse hand. Would you please explain further as to why we should avoid a wrist rest? Thanks
I guess I will. This isn't all established scientific, practical fact though, but it's based on some truth.
The proper mouse posture looks something like this:
http://www.keral.com/upload/image/Here-ar-some-correct-postures/posture3.jpg
A wrist rest has a high chance of getting in the way of the wrist, causing unnecessary and unhealthy angling. The friction some wrist rests (such as sticky plastic or rubber) would also cause and unneeded increase in effort needed to move, causing possible additional wrist strain.
Don't just focus on having an ideal posture and positioning for the mouse though. The keyboard hand is also as important.
Also, the positioning of your mouse, keyboard, and table/chair heights, and chair arm heights will be extremely important for maintaining your arms, hands, back, and wrists.
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I just wear simple wrist bands when playing. They serve as a good cushion between your wrists and the desk. Good for anyone looking for a 'lighter' solution, I think.
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On September 28 2011 12:04 mGMUSE wrote:
i find that wearing something tight around my forearm-wrist area helps relieve the pain/spazz in my wrist. Mvp wears something similiar, like bandages. I think the main point is to adjust the bloodflow or something similiar.
He wears those because he has carpal tunnel.
BTW
All you really need.
![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31BWBCHX9GL._SL300_.jpg)
I thought wrist rests are pretty standard in work places...
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On September 28 2011 13:16 Zurachi wrote:I just wear simple wrist bands when playing. They serve as a good cushion between your wrists and the desk. Good for anyone looking for a 'lighter' solution, I think.
something simple like this is cheap and effective if you find yourself pushing down on the desk with your arms while you play, this action when moving your wrist on the surface can cause irritation on your wrist, the little extra cushion and something between your wrist and a hard surface is helpful. either that or get a wrist rest, but even then gel wrist rests can get in the way of your hands etc. which is why i just prefer wrist bands. typically you can find a cheap pair in sporting good stores for 1.99 or so. or if you want tighter for more support you can get a medical one for around 10 bucks.
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On September 28 2011 02:10 SCJethro wrote:
So TL community, I pose the question to you. What type and/or brand of wrist support do you recommend and why?
i advise against using any kind of brace. the brace merely allows your muscles to weaken. i recommend using the stabilizing muscles throughout your fore arm and hand.
i'd only use any kind of brace in any sport under the direct supervision of a sports medicine physiotherapist or an orthopedic surgeon.
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Posted this in another thread but noone replying so I thought I'd post here.
Basically I was getting pain in my thumb and the meaty area between the thumb and wrist, and palm IF I pressed down on it but it was more of an uncomfortable feeling then pain, I would occasionally get pain in my little finger and my index finger, I went to the doctor who pressed down in all those spots which it didn't hurt so she thought it was RSI, so I should just rest and it would go away. But after a week the pain was still there so I went to a physio who said my arm/neck was real stiff so he gave me some exercises and said it might be a small case of RSI and it should go away after a few weeks.
It's been a week and don't play SC2 at all but spend time on the PC just watching movies and stuff but now I'm waking up with pain in my fingers, It's not actually waking me up or anything. Usually my pain is gone when I wake up then I feel it after like 30 mins.
So I dunno what the hell the problem is. Because my wrists aren't hurting, it's in both hands, I'm not having any strength loss.
And also is it alright to go to the gym, and squeeze a stress ball, because I've been using a stress ball all day because it usually stops the pain for a bit.
EDIT
Oh yeah and if gym is alright to go to, is there any specific exercises to do to help my hand problem. and posture
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On September 28 2011 13:49 Benzzro wrote:
Posted this in another thread but noone replying so I thought I'd post here.
Basically I was getting pain in my thumb and the meaty area between the thumb and wrist, and palm IF I pressed down on it but it was more of an uncomfortable feeling then pain, I would occasionally get pain in my little finger and my index finger, I went to the doctor who pressed down in all those spots which it didn't hurt so she thought it was RSI, so I should just rest and it would go away. But after a week the pain was still there so I went to a physio who said my arm/neck was real stiff so he gave me some exercises and said it might be a small case of RSI and it should go away after a few weeks.
It's been a week and don't play SC2 at all but spend time on the PC just watching movies and stuff but now I'm waking up with pain in my fingers, It's not actually waking me up or anything. Usually my pain is gone when I wake up then I feel it after like 30 mins.
So I dunno what the hell the problem is. Because my wrists aren't hurting, it's in both hands, I'm not having any strength loss.
And also is it alright to go to the gym, and squeeze a stress ball, because I've been using a stress ball all day because it usually stops the pain for a bit.
EDIT
Oh yeah and if gym is alright to go to, is there any specific exercises to do to help my hand problem. and posture
We aren't doctors and I don't want this thread to descend into people trying to pretend to be. It sounds like you need to go to the doctor again, or perhaps a different doctor and describe the development of your symptoms. Its important to be persistent and make sure your doctor understands what is going on. Or perhaps be patient and make sure you are following your doctors suggestions as accurately as possible.
As far as going to the gym goes -- People tend to say exercise and strengthening is good. But im not sure as to your specific situation -- again, not a doctor. Also, someone brought up wrist exercises at the bottom of the first page...
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On another note -- I'll be updating the OP tomorrow with some of the information we have developed.
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Reading these kinds of threads always made me self-conscious of my wrists. Makes me feel them slightly more.
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This seems like a topic Liquid'TLO could post knowledgeable information on from his extensive experience.
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OR YOU COULD USE ONE OF THESE!
![[image loading]](http://www.acasports.co.uk/images/products/full/hand-grip-exerciser.jpg)
AND keep your connective tissues strong and resistant to repetitive stress injury.
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On September 28 2011 13:54 Puph wrote:
Reading these kinds of threads always made me self-conscious of my wrists. Makes me feel them slightly more.
Since carpal tunnel is an injury you can have for most of your life AND which can bother you even if you only do normal work on a PC, it is a really important problem to guard yourself against as a kid. Sadly the kids always ignore these warnings and know it better than their parents ... just to pay the price later/the rest of their lives (?).
I use a simple elastic brace which is fitted over the thumb and then wrapped around the wrist and closed off with velcro. It is nice because I can adjust the pressure it generates and change it a little to the actual spot of pain (sometimes right in the wrist and sometimes up the arm a bit). You can also wash it ...
As an alternative to using a wrist brace there is always the use of a graphics tablet instead of a mouse as an input device. Your forearm is positioned very differently that way and the hand movements are more "natural". Obviously this helps preventing the injury and if you work in the book publishing business like I do it will actually help. As for other alternatives to the mouse I cant say, but I would think the positioning of your wrist is the key.
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For posture, train your back muscles. A strong back helps sitting up straight. Sitting up straight in turn helps you to hold your arm in a more restive posture, reducing some stress on the shoulder.
Furthermore, for your wrists and hands, do stretching. Very simple  I think even day 9 said it in one of his dailies somewhere. (http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-252-secrets-of-hotkeys-apm-and-mouse-movement-4730506)
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On September 28 2011 14:12 RedDragon571 wrote:OR YOU COULD USE ONE OF THESE! AND keep your connective tissues strong and resistant to repetitive stress injury.
this is overly simplistic information.
shouldn't the person also strengthen the lateral muscles as well as the medial muscles.
![[image loading]](http://ironmind-store.com/images/1376-2_f.jpg)
Ironmind has a full selection of COMPLETE TOOLS for strengthening your grip without putting your muscles out of balance.
i'd recommend Ironmind PLUS a good physiotherapist or orthopedic surgeon....
the "crushed to dust" grip strengthening tools are the best there is...
http://ironmind-store.com/Crushed-to-Dust153-Grip-Tools/departments/7/
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On September 28 2011 13:33 KiF1rE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 13:16 Zurachi wrote:I just wear simple wrist bands when playing. They serve as a good cushion between your wrists and the desk. Good for anyone looking for a 'lighter' solution, I think. something simple like this is cheap and effective if you find yourself pushing down on the desk with your arms while you play, this action when moving your wrist on the surface can cause irritation on your wrist, the little extra cushion and something between your wrist and a hard surface is helpful. either that or get a wrist rest, but even then gel wrist rests can get in the way of your hands etc. which is why i just prefer wrist bands. typically you can find a cheap pair in sporting good stores for 1.99 or so. or if you want tighter for more support you can get a medical one for around 10 bucks.
Yea the bottom skin of my wrist gets irritated from rubbing/pressure against the mouse pad but my posture is exactly the right way according to http://www.keral.com/upload/image/Here-ar-some-correct-postures/posture3.jpg. Thinking of getting something for it.
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