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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 24 2011 03:09 GMT
#1
On a message on their website, SC2Con had announced that they will be dissolving as of today.

The organization was formed November of last year as there was a need for an organization to help mediate the differing opinions of teams and organization as the scene was still developing.

SC2Con, unlike KeSPA, however, lacked the ability to enforce a specific opinion, leading to difficulties mediating on dividing issues. “Every team, player, and coach were under different circumstances, and therefore, differing opinions. This led SC2Con to believe that there were strict limitations on what the organization could achieve”, SC2Con commented. Some of the dividing issues were related to player transfers and attendance of foreign tournaments, and they noted that it was impossible to come up with solutions that pleased every party.

SC2Con noted that over the year the limitations of a soft approach like SC2Con were clearly shown. In their closing statement, they remarked that they still believe that an organization with structure was needed for the scene as a whole, and that they will be working to help create such a structure.

Source: SC2Con
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 03:10:40
September 24 2011 03:10 GMT
#2
yep, it's better that a new organization that can really do things go up now.
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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
September 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#3
Interesting stuff, yeah I never believed SC2CON were managing SC2 very well and most of the time they were mentioned was when people had huge issues with them eg. FXOBoSs's situation
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DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 03:12:18
September 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#4
Finally... Would hate Kespa 2.0.. It's simply not needed at this stage.
u gotta sk8
Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
September 24 2011 03:12 GMT
#5
An organization like KESPA on a global scale would be ideal in my opinion.
Yuri Victoria LMJ ~♥
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 03:17:03
September 24 2011 03:13 GMT
#6
Yeah, between all the little bits of drama that popped up earlier this year I kinda got the impression that SC2Con was either lacking in power, disorganised, naive, or some combination of all three. I guess if it was only ever intended as a sort of formality for the early life of the SC2 scene that's not so bad. Judging by the post it's clear that those involved came away from all the problems that occurred correctly, so better things will happen in the future.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 03:14:09
September 24 2011 03:13 GMT
#7
Hmmmm yummy. Opens many doors and possibilities to Korea.
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Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
September 24 2011 03:13 GMT
#8
On September 24 2011 12:11 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Finally... Would hate Kespa 2.0.. It's simply not needed at this stage.


If you read the post it sounds more like they want to move toward that than to no org at all

SC2Con noted that over the year the limitations of a soft approach like SC2Con were clearly shown. In their closing statement, they remarked that they still believe that an organization with structure was needed for the scene as a whole, and that they will be working to help create such a structure.
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
September 24 2011 03:14 GMT
#9
Ummm, isn´t this bad? I mean crappy ragtag regulation still protects players more than 0 regulation. Dunno about KESPA, they did a lot of good things for BW nobody can deny that but I really never liked some of their decisions.

Meh, best wishes for the korean SC2 players and teams, hopefully something can work out for them
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
September 24 2011 03:14 GMT
#10
It was probably for the best, the only things that I heard about them since they started was drama or bad publicity :[
Considering learning BW
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
September 24 2011 03:15 GMT
#11
I didn't resolve my situation, but I do believe this is the best for the people in involved.

I wish everyone in south korea the best!

But I think Kespa is incoming.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 03:15:52
September 24 2011 03:15 GMT
#12
I was half expecting this:
1) Notable teams weren't in it (Slayers, FXO).
2) There was too much controversy surrounding it.
3) It had no power, and the rules it seemed to try to make where never strictly followed. For ex, I think they discourage streaming, but StarTale let's their players do so.

On the other hand, I have mixed feelings about Kespa. They have done some absolutely ridiculous shit. The battle between Kespa and Blizzard was just greedy and spiteful beyond belief (both sides lost).

But Kespa governing SC2 would bring an air of "legitimacy". It would also pave the way for BW players to freely transfer to SC2 without losing their "progaming status" (whatever that means).
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
September 24 2011 03:15 GMT
#13
On September 24 2011 12:13 Shaetan wrote:
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On September 24 2011 12:11 DeepBlu2 wrote:
Finally... Would hate Kespa 2.0.. It's simply not needed at this stage.


If you read the post it sounds more like they want to move toward that than to no org at all

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SC2Con noted that over the year the limitations of a soft approach like SC2Con were clearly shown. In their closing statement, they remarked that they still believe that an organization with structure was needed for the scene as a whole, and that they will be working to help create such a structure.



No. there is a difference between an unorganized group trying to mimic their predecessor in BW, and an actual organized group handling situations properly. SC2CON did nothing but cause problems... I don't think it has to be Kespa to handle it, as I wouldn't like there to be people become nearly slaves playing 16 hours a day, but I would prefer a much more organized group than SC2Con.
u gotta sk8
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
September 24 2011 03:16 GMT
#14
I hope rekrul can come in and shine on what SC2 would be like if kespa joined in
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
September 24 2011 03:16 GMT
#15
Too bad NASL has already started. Oh well, there is always next season.
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
Jaxtyk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States600 Posts
September 24 2011 03:17 GMT
#16
so DRG can stream now?
To tell the truth....I could beat anyone in the world.
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
September 24 2011 03:17 GMT
#17
Kinda expected, it was useless to begin with.
It was basically like a student council at a public school with no authority or power whatsoever. It would be nice if Blizzard or GOM can set one up with a couple of sponsor representatives from each team. This way they have finance to enforce things and be taken seriously by the community
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
September 24 2011 03:18 GMT
#18
Interesting, thanks for sharing the news. Looking forward to updates about this topic.
o choro é livre
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
September 24 2011 03:19 GMT
#19
On September 24 2011 12:15 lbmaian wrote:
I was half expecting this:
1) Notable teams weren't in it (Slayers, FXO).
2) There was too much controversy surrounding it.
3) It had no power, and the rules it seemed to try to make where never strictly followed. For ex, I think they discourage streaming, but StarTale let's their players do so.

On the other hand, I have mixed feelings about Kespa. They have done some absolutely ridiculous shit. The battle between Kespa and Blizzard was just greedy and spiteful beyond belief (both sides lost).

But Kespa governing SC2 would bring an air of "legitimacy". It would also pave the way for BW players to freely transfer to SC2 without losing their "progaming status" (whatever that means).


There is still a big drop in pay going from BW to SC2 that still stands as a barrier between the two.

Also, what has Kespa done that is so ridiculous other than the Blizzard battle (and that too depends on which perspective you chose).
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
September 24 2011 03:19 GMT
#20
good thing - now lets see what will emerge in the future in terms of creating an organization responsible for those kinds fo things
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
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