SC2Con disbands - Page 12

On September 26 2011 22:30 Excludos wrote:
Never really heard much about the organization except for the bad stuff. NASL s2 comes to mind..and did they really discourage people from streaming? Yes, lets make sure people can't watch sc2 anywhere but large tournaments. Thats going to be ideal!

Of course, good news has a thing of not being highlighted. But from the very very little I've heard, it sounds like its just as good they disbanded.

On September 26 2011 22:45 Tofugrinder wrote:

as mentioned about 1000times on TL already: sc2con had nothing to do with nasl.

On September 27 2011 00:02 Scraps wrote:
So what they're saying is, their draconian recommendations weren't strong enough, so they're going to make a ruling body that all teams must be forced to join so when they want to manipulate the tournament scene for the the profit of the cartels that own these teams and the Kpop slaves they will be forced to listen.

Gosh, I hope they don't start making player throw matches to fuel illegal gambling, again.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal

On September 26 2011 21:12 Primadog wrote:


Only WeMadeFox's BW division is part of KeSPA. It's actually the reason why Moon, Lyn, and Soccer (Fox's W3 team) were allowed to play sc2 while Fox's BW team were not.

Of course, given this development. Things will change soon.

On September 26 2011 23:13 Excludos wrote:


Could you quote every one of those 1000 times please?

Meanwhile: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253750

with quote from NASL themself: BoxeR already declined participation (his withdrawal came before the SC2Con decision, but for similar reasons)

Did I miss somewhere where this wasn't sc2cons decision after all?

On September 27 2011 01:37 Tofugrinder wrote:

try reading the whole thread and you'll find the answer. Just because the OP isn't correct it doesn't mean you are

On September 27 2011 05:52 Excludos wrote:


Thanks for helping me out. I'll sit down and read the entire 179 pages on the thread now.

Seriously. If you don't have anything useful, don't answer. My question was sincere. If every team in sc2con decided to pull out, and nasl said it was sc2cons decision, it would be nice of anyone to actually confirm whetever or not that was the case. Not just throw out "you're wrong" or "read the thread".

On September 26 2011 21:19 Oktyabr wrote:


You're implying that Kespa did something for the WC3 Korean players? They didn't have any form of license for them.

FOX took Moon in because he was a super star on his own right. He had a remarkable market value in the WC3 scene, and the team obviously believed that he was worth the investment. I can't really see how Kespa is in anyway responsible for Moon's salary.

Moon was on MYM for three years. He was paid that figure. In fact his incredulous salary on MYM back then was partly the reason why players like Lyn, Remind and Soju decided to leave Team WE, because they felt that they were underpaid by a huge margin when they all believed that they were capable of competing with Moon.

On September 26 2011 07:17 wassbix wrote:


Because foreigners love freedom so much that they would never ever ... *looks at NFL/NHL/FIFA* oh...

On September 27 2011 06:00 wassbix wrote:



Or you could read the first couple pages (gasp reading!) where it was answered and not grace us with your ignorance. It's not the job of others to baby feed you information, especially if you can't even be polite about it.

On September 27 2011 09:38 discw wrote:


KESPA is very different from how those leagues are run, (at least the 1st 2, I don't know details of FIFA), your point makes no sense.

On September 27 2011 09:51 Bobster wrote:

SC2con was clearly involved in that decision. FXO had to negotiate with SC2con for FXOsc's participation (one of the major reasons FXO left SC2con shortly afterwards), team MVP members who wanted to play were not allowed to play because Mr.Chae and the team coaches (except SlayerS) came to the agreement that none of the Korean teams should participate.

So basically... the members of SC2con made a decision on behalf of the teams represented by SC2con concerning the Korean scene represented by SC2con... and then proceeded to say "SC2con had nothing to do with this" in official channels.

It's semantics. The same people involved, the same dynamics at work. And internally (in FXO's interaction with the others) it was referred to as SC2con.



Oh, it does make sense, it just completely backfired on him.

The first two examples he mentions are perfect analogies to GOM/MLG/IEM and no one has anything against these tournament organisers.

His last analogy also fits, because FIFA is a governing body controlling the scene - much like Kespa - and it's a terrible organisation, completely corrupt (it's openly known that its most important members can be bought when decisions are made) and mostly concerned with filling their own pockets on other's people expense.

On September 27 2011 08:29 rasers wrote:

and when teh fuck did i say Kespa paid him?

watch all the whole quote. guy starts talking about if its possible 2 get 200k+ per year salary without such a big organisation.
and then the other guy quotes him and talks about a player that is part of a team from the organisation?!?!?

i never said Kespa paid him. but WMF paid him who is/was part of Kespa.

but keep seeing stuff i never wrote

On September 27 2011 01:25 Ryo wrote:

Wrong. Another person who has no idea what Kespa is.