EPTI really dont see any other reason. Games dont require you to be at your physical peak, so why would it matter what age you are?
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
I really dont see any other reason. Games dont require you to be at your physical peak, so why would it matter what age you are? | ||
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Spitfire
South Africa442 Posts
On September 13 2011 13:14 Drlemur wrote: 44 and plat here. Working on it. There are a few oldsters out here on the ladder, you young whippersnappers.  BTW, it helps to have a 15yo Master level player in the house to laugh at me and give advice (my son). I told him he could play all summer as long as he stuck to a proper Korean training schedule: decent night's sleep, regular meals, physical exercise and then as many games as he wants. He made Masters and we went out to Korean BBQ in Chicago to celebrate. The main thing about oldsters is we mostly have manners like White Ra -- more gg, more skill. I'm not going to rage at you for cheesing, this isn't my first rodeo. You sound like the most awesome dad ever. | ||
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omgbambi
Sweden54 Posts
On the other hand, as you grow older you start to realize that time isn't on your side. And beside your own mind, time is also holding you back. If you have no responsibilities what so ever (as a youngster might have). Time is free at your disposal, pushing 10 hours / day might not be a problem. I'd challenge you to push the same 10 hours a day when you have bills to pay, kids to feed and a wife to entertain without a problem. Going pro means sacrificing parts of your life, it's a simple fact. So when 'old' people say that they can't go pro due to age, I don't think anyone is actually meaning that they are too old. Simply that time isn't on their side. And specially if you have kids, going full pro might not even be an option as it would mean that you most likely are sacrificing time with your kids. Boxer and NesTea haven't really had this problem, they started at a young age and have been pro's most of their lives. | ||
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Defaced
Lithuania26 Posts
You are never too old to do what you want, as long as you want it. | ||
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Uhh Negative
United States1090 Posts
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Drlemur
United States153 Posts
On September 13 2011 17:47 Gigaschatten wrote: 37 here - 800 Pts on master (rank 20 in my division currently). I know I won't achieve GM ever because of age and no talent. Still enjoying the game though. My new hero. Hope you're wrong about making GM someday, too.I'll keep practicing and you, me and the other 37 diamond guy up-thread can start a SC2 "senior circuit" in a few years.  I'd love to be able to go to MLG (or other LAN) and play a small tourney with the other oldsters for amusement's sake. I'll probably never catch my son, but I think I'm not bad for my age.There are a lot of older gamers out there, but not as many in SC2 it seems. I'm not sure it's totally an age thing -- we aren't really that far past the cognitive skill peak. I think it's more that SC2 is *hard.* SC2 is to other video games as (speed) chess is to other board/table-top games. It's the best, most competitive game by far, but when you are with a causal, social group, Settlers of Catan is much more likely to be popular. As gamers age, I think we'll find other supportive dads for their game playing sons, too. We know video games themselves aren't bad but they crowd out other things. When that's important things (homework, exercise), we need to fix that. But it also crowds out a lot of teenage behavior that doesn't necessarily do anybody any good, which we like. And we had a blast watching Day9's Funday Monday together instead of Monday Night Football last night -- laughing and maybe getting better at SC2 >>> watching grown men get brain damage. | ||
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Benzzro
Australia167 Posts
On September 13 2011 13:14 Drlemur wrote: 44 and plat here. Working on it. There are a few oldsters out here on the ladder, you young whippersnappers. BTW, it helps to have a 15yo Master level player in the house to laugh at me and give advice (my son). I told him he could play all summer as long as he stuck to a proper Korean training schedule: decent night's sleep, regular meals, physical exercise and then as many games as he wants. He made Masters and we went out to Korean BBQ in Chicago to celebrate. The main thing about oldsters is we mostly have manners like White Ra -- more gg, more skill. I'm not going to rage at you for cheesing, this isn't my first rodeo. Adopt me please. | ||
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
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TWIX_Heaven
Denmark169 Posts
A good example would be comparing a 100m sprinter to a chess player. The athlete is depending on his body to compete, and as such reaches a limit and a downfall during his career (talking top-tier here, every one can keep in shape to "run" 100m but not at the Olympics) - whereas the chess player can spend his entire life getting better. Personally I think Starcraft is a mix between both, a older player might win a game with game-sense, timing and superior experience, while the younger player might win on creativity and dexterity (mechanics and whatnot). While most skills can be perfected for a lifetime (including some physical, like Wushu, carpentry ect.) there are simply some that is so dependent on your physique / mentality that you either cant do it being too young, or cant do it being too old. True mastery is a myth anyway, you must do what you enjoy and fulfil yourself in what you do. Striving for mastery often times leads to failure, whereas genuine fulfilment and joy most often create something truly masterful and original. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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love.less
United Kingdom293 Posts
ian wright the arsenal and england footballer was playing amateur football till he was 22. in football terms thats insanely late to get a professional contract its always worth trying especially when everything is much more accesible now than it was in the past | ||
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frontliner2
Netherlands844 Posts
talent skill training insight intelligence Ofc you become slower as you age but that is only noticable on TOP TOP levels | ||
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aggu
38 Posts
I am ~40, part of the generation who grew up with the first computer games as they emerged during the 80s. I never really stopped playing. The biggest change in my gaming experience and skill was not age, but children. Three of them. It's not so much the lack of time, but rather it's impossible to really concentrate on anything. It's like there is always somebody asking me to do something. Always, day or night. Otherwise, I feel I could still master SC2 quite well if I wanted to. I bought SC2 for my son as a Christmas present without knowing what it was. He is 6. I bought SC2 because he was playing Civ but was only interested in fighting, so I figured maybe SC2 has the fighting part but no pyramids. I was right. He plays mostly single player, but we do some 4v4s together. He plays 4v4 with his friends. When he ladders, its always 6pool. People BM him but he can't read it. He's in bronze, I am in silver. I know that soon I will be totally left behind. Maybe he can coach me then! | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
On September 13 2011 12:50 Datum wrote: FDR didn't start being President until 51, and he was the first President Bonjwa. The only time he didn't defend his presidency (I believe it was the Shinhan Bank Presidency), was because he DIED. Quoting this again, because it made me LOL. I'm not sure the exact point of the thread. But there are plenty of examples of people excelling outside the "norm" which I think this is basically what is being talked about. Whether that "norm" is age, gender, physical or mental limitations, whatever it might be. However, it doesn't happen often but when it does it is cool to recognize. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
 None of those people started late.And NO, we don't start having Alzheimer's and arthritis at 28. When people say they're "too old" is because they mean they don't have the time anymore to commit to a pro-gamer practice schedule. It's easy to do in school when you can just blow off homework and game 24/7. | ||
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eMbAh
Denmark40 Posts
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
Both of us have other responsibilities (me work and family, him chores and schoolwork), so naturally our playing is at a minimum. I consider my Plat status to be pretty good considering how little I play. In my single guy days I played BroodWar so I guess that experience helps me compensate with my ~50 apm. If any of you other old men want to get some games going, friend me in the game sometime. ElMeanYo.632... cheers! | ||
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oxxo
988 Posts
People slow in both mind and body as they get older (late 20s onwards). It's a simple fact. There's a reason it's hard for older people to learn musical instruments etc. than for young people. It's the same for Starcraft and anything else in life. | ||
r_con
United States824 Posts
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latan
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