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On September 13 2011 13:06 _Major wrote:
Old guys like me have jobs, kids, and wives. We can still get pretty good, but we're at a huge disadvantage in comparison to someone in their teens or in college. It really comes down to time, priorities, and readily available practice partners/coaches.
Very true! The future old progamers will be the ones that were pro when they were in their teens. It's very unlikely someone will go pro at age 29 when they have a full time job, family, etc.
But! just because you can't go pro doesnt mean you cant have fun! 
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On September 13 2011 13:07 vol_ wrote:Did we all just get trolled or is this guy just stupid?
he has a history of making shit threads. so, the latter.
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I don't think they started late, but rather are just old players who still play. EG; WhiteRa
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44 and plat here. Working on it. There are a few oldsters out here on the ladder, you young whippersnappers.
BTW, it helps to have a 15yo Master level player in the house to laugh at me and give advice (my son). I told him he could play all summer as long as he stuck to a proper Korean training schedule: decent night's sleep, regular meals, physical exercise and then as many games as he wants. He made Masters and we went out to Korean BBQ in Chicago to celebrate.
The main thing about oldsters is we mostly have manners like White Ra -- more gg, more skill. I'm not going to rage at you for cheesing, this isn't my first rodeo.
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Nestea was a BW pro so his example doesn't hold much weight..
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On September 13 2011 13:14 Drlemur wrote:44 and plat here. Working on it. There are a few oldsters out here on the ladder, you young whippersnappers. BTW, it helps to have a 15yo Master level player in the house to laugh at me and give advice (my son). I told him he could play all summer as long as he stuck to a proper Korean training schedule: decent night's sleep, regular meals, physical exercise and then as many games as he wants. He made Masters and we went out to Korean BBQ in Chicago to celebrate. The main thing about oldsters is we mostly have manners like White Ra -- more gg, more skill. I'm not going to rage at you for cheesing, this isn't my first rodeo.
Haha, that is so awesome! Cheers to you and your son. More gg, more skill
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On September 13 2011 13:11 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2011 13:07 vol_ wrote:On September 13 2011 12:52 retRed wrote:
hahaha Did we all just get trolled or is this guy just stupid? he has a history of making shit threads. so, the latter.
I'm guessing he was laughing in response to the previous FDR post.
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I'm in my late 20's.... whenever someone cheeses me I start spamming my LifeAlert bracelet. Has anyone seen my dentures?
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As a man in my mid 30s I do not have the time to devote to the game to "be good" anymore. I have real life commitments that are more important. That is the real reason why there are few 'old' gamers. We do not have to the time to devote to practice that teens and early 20 somethings have, we have other things on our minds, like our families, responsibilities and jobs. We have real bills to pay. Very few people can balance both, those are the exceptions mentioned in the OP.
This is my opinion, anyway. A friend of similar age managed to get into diamond before masters started. He had to quit, citing "I don't have the time to play enough to be good." I never got out of bronze, I lacked the drive as well as the time. I love watching matches, just like I love watching baseball.
I suck at that game as well.
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As an older gamer(28), with a family, and a full time job that requires me to be away from things like the internet for 7 months at a time, I find that the thing that is the hardest about playing SC2 is NOT about finding time, or even the fact that I started playing the game 5 months after release. I actually am able to find time to play every evening, after taking my son to the pool/park, doing house work, grilling supper and getting basic things done around the house. The problem is, by the time I sit down to play I am often quite tired mentally and physically. So instead of focusing on the game I play in a mental fog. Ill grind out games as I find it more enjoyable than watching brain draining TV, but I don't really feel like I will really improve beyond the point where I am at...~800 Masters. I equate this being like going to the gym and half assing a workout. You go through the motions, but will never really improve. I guess it's just a few hours of entertainment for the evening.
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You know, it's not that I'm too old to start, or not good enough at this age. Instead, it's that I have invested too much into other things to give that up. I have a serious gf with a serious family along with a serious education. I feel that when I get to a point where I can put these things away, it will be too late to start.
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[QUOTE]On September 13 2011 12:18 retRed wrote:
"I'm to old to get any good at this game"
"The younger you are, the more able you are to pick things up"
"I wish I had started earlier"
"I've played for too long"
"I use to be really good"
"If I hadn't lost the spark.."
None of that is true imo. I feel that age has nothing to do with how well you play the game and WhiteRa and the other older nerds have proved it. It has to do more with the mental issues that you're facing, the fact that you think you're old and aren't fast as the younger gamers. The more you think about your age, it will only be a burden for you to carry. Older people tends to be more efficient and smarter the young ones. Use your past experience as your advantage. There's not much physcial aspect involved in playing the game, just play man.
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Thats all just an excuse to not do work.
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Now imagine what those old guys can do if they started earlier. Even more experience, and thus, more skill.
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Im a 37yo #2 diamond terran (670 pts), can anyone beat that? aiming for masters within 2 wks, think Im onthe cusp.
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On September 13 2011 13:14 Drlemur wrote:44 and plat here. Working on it. There are a few oldsters out here on the ladder, you young whippersnappers. BTW, it helps to have a 15yo Master level player in the house to laugh at me and give advice (my son). I told him he could play all summer as long as he stuck to a proper Korean training schedule: decent night's sleep, regular meals, physical exercise and then as many games as he wants. He made Masters and we went out to Korean BBQ in Chicago to celebrate. The main thing about oldsters is we mostly have manners like White Ra -- more gg, more skill. I'm not going to rage at you for cheesing, this isn't my first rodeo.
Be my dad.
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On September 13 2011 14:21 Soulish wrote:
Now imagine what those old guys can do if they started earlier. Even more experience, and thus, more skill.
i have to stir the pot, i mean just a little. one might say the flipside to having so much experience is the inability to come up with inspiring new strategies because of that fresh perspective youngins have.
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“We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.”
George Bernard Shaw quotes (Irish literary Critic, Playwright and Essayist. 1925 Nobel Prize for Literature, 1856-1950)
“Those who love deeply never grow old; they may die of old age, but they die young.”
Benjamin Franklin quotes (American Statesman, Scientist, Philosopher, Printer, Writer and Inventor. 1706-1790)
“At the age of 20, we don't care what the world thinks of us; at 30, we worry about what it is thinking of us; at 40, we discover that it wasn't thinking of us at all.”
“There is no failure except in no longer trying.”
Elbert Hubbard quotes (American editor, publisher and writer, 1856-1915)
** You are Never Too Old to Get Started:
While most successful men start their careers at an early age, Harland Sanders’ story begins when he was sixty-five years old. He had spent many years of his life operating a restaurant. However, once he quit the food business and sat back to relax in retirement, he found himself penniless. When the Colonel received his first Social Security check in the amount of $105.00, he knew he had to get out of his rocking chair and do something to earn some real money.
Colonel Harland D. Sanders was broke and living off his Social Security check at 66 years of age. He did not consider himself “too old” to get started. He took his chicken recipe to the road and offered franchises. Within about 10 years he had accumulated over 600 franchised outlets which he sold for $2 million dollars.
How old are you? **
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I'm a 29 year old masters level player. I like where I am. Only kids think late 20s/early 30s constitutes "old". You'll see soon enough.
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