EPTToo old to get better, Starting late - Page 4
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
On September 13 2011 18:21 aebriol wrote: So ... It's a fact that after you turn around 30, your body slows down somewhat. Whether it's 30, 32, or 33, is somewhat individual, but in general, around 30-31 for nearly everyone. That's not to say someone who is 32 can't compete ... but someone who is 38? I'll believe it when I see it ... According to hundreds, and possibly thousands of tests made by scientists, they're saying that most people peak mentally at age 20-22, and after that, the decline starts. Now what you're talking about is a general physical peak for an athlete. They don't need to make splitsecond descisions every minute. Different ballgame totally. Although i'm not saying it won't happen, it most likely will. | ||
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Jontegrisen
Denmark15 Posts
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RealQ
1120 Posts
If theres more older progamers like white-ra in about 10 years i wont be surprised. | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
As many people have said in the thread there is of course the fact that when you are 35 you can't be as fast as if you are 20. But even if you are older (25+) you can still improve and be fast. When I started playing StarCraft2 my effective APM (I've never spam my keys) was at appr. 40 but now it's 120APM. APM is not everything but I'm actually really happy over my improvement. I really have to thank my musical background for this - I started playing the violing when I was 5 and for the next 15 years I practiced a lot and at the end I was really good (played solo in concerts with orchestras etc.). At first I was slow but when I started to practice the same way as I did when I was a great violinist it dramatically improved. You practice combinations, situations over and over again, just like a hard part in a Sonata and after some practice you get it. You are never to old to improve even when it comes to speed, you just have to focus and practice correctly. | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On September 13 2011 12:34 Jaxtyk wrote: Nestea is 30 i thought 30 in Korea.... which is 28 real time. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
You are not losing games because of your pshysical or mental cabailities. You are most likely lacking other aspects of the game. I don't even understand the purpose of these threads since age discussion is irrelevant unless you are talking about getting into top 10 in the WORLD anytime soon. If you are talking about getting to masters in the ladder your age will never be a factor. | ||
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branflakes14
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SpurvL
Sweden345 Posts
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zyce
United States649 Posts
"Just an excuse" - I'm not sure what this phrase truly means, a cigar is "just" a cigar, and there are plenty of reasons that players at age 30 have a much harder time improving. The older you are, the slower you learn, unfrotunately. The plus side is that recent research shows, for males, reaction speed is at its peak near the age of 30 (as opposed to 20, previously believed). If anyone's quite interested in this, I'd have to google up the research again as it's been a few months. I languished in Bronze for many months and have no practice partners. I was able to make it into Platinum and my APM is 100. When I was playing broodwar at age 20, my effective APM was 130-140 and I was able to learn and execute strategies with a lot more ease. I could play 10-15x the amount of games in the same period of time. I just can't do that now. A lot has changed. Speculate all you like, but if you're quite young it's very difficult to understand how aging relates to your abilities to play eSports or sports alike. It seems that professionals older than 24 have a much more difficult time, and the advantage of experience that older BW pros have in SC2 will soon fade away until it means nothing. Edit: On the other hand, I started playing trumpet at age 10 and was a professional by age 19, and will have unsurpassed skill with this instrument until the day I die. I have an insane amount of credentials, of which I'd have zero if I started at 15. | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On September 13 2011 19:48 SpurvL wrote: "started at 17" is that late? dude, you made me feel real old :< For violin and bass it IS pretty late to start and then achieve what they did. | ||
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zyce
United States649 Posts
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branflakes14
2082 Posts
On September 13 2011 19:57 zyce wrote: It would be great if we could organize a legitimate league for older gamers, as we're just as competitive if not more about the game. I'll always get beaten by someone who can practice all day, and that won't ever change at higher levels. If you're just as competitive, prove it! Winning a segregated league for older people would be like winning the special Olympics. | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On September 13 2011 19:57 zyce wrote: It would be great if we could organize a legitimate league for older gamers, as we're just as competitive if not more about the game. I'll always get beaten by someone who can practice all day, and that won't ever change at higher levels. Well, i know several people 35 and older who still have time to practice all day since they don't have a job. I would suggest a league for players that work full-time, like Day9s After Hours Gaming League, just for everyone  | ||
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Yiko
Germany104 Posts
On September 13 2011 20:00 branflakes14 wrote: If you're just as competitive, prove it! Winning a segregated league for older people would be like winning the special Olympics. So it would be an outstanding achievement, showing your dedication and love for the sport? | ||
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Deleted User 101379
4849 Posts
On September 13 2011 20:04 Yiko wrote: So it would be an outstanding achievement, showing your dedication and love for the sport? I agree, it shows that even with the limitations of work, wife and kids you are still able to compete, maybe not on the highest level but still at a very high level. | ||
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Philosophy
186 Posts
- Shephard, Roy J. (7 March 1998). "Aging and Exercise". Encyclopedia of Sports Medicine and Science (T.D.Fahey). Retrieved 2007-06-26. | ||
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sLBraemar
Canada285 Posts
I know, right. lol | ||
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Scrimpton
United Kingdom465 Posts
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sudzy
United States58 Posts
On September 13 2011 18:52 RealQ wrote: The generation above us didnt grow up with the videogames we did, i expect my generation, 20ish will continue gaming when they're older, seeing as most of us grew up with video games. If theres more older progamers like white-ra in about 10 years i wont be surprised. That's not really true. I'm 40, my first game was Pong (when I was in footie pajamas) and I've been gaming ever since. I think my generation was the first to really validate gaming as an industry. The problem with me is as many people have said is time. My daughter is in college and my boy is in high school, and I'm on the road quite a bit for my profession. I don't think we will see many "successful" pro gamers that are 35+ due to time constraints and the normal pressures of life as well as desire. It's funny, I find myself a lot of times thinking I played well only to look at the replay and think "holy shit your slow old man!" I think it may have to do with carrying around a wrench for 20 years and multiple carpal tunnel problems. I am an excellent armchair quarterback though. | ||
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