APM measurements changes in 1.4.0 - Page 39

On September 26 2011 08:35 IntotheNorth wrote:
Funny thing is im seeing pros having below 100 apm after the patch, they have basically almost the same apm as bronzie now, gj blizzard ^^ make us noobs feeling proud

On September 26 2011 21:46 Monkeyballs25 wrote:


Which ones? I pulled a random match from the first page of SC2rep and its listing an average APM of 175 for LiquidRet, with higher peaks. Meanwhile in my Silver league games I rarely see anyone above 30-60 average. If someone could actually pull a replay of a sub-100 APM pro playing a standard game that'd be great. Until then I have to assume the "omg they're catering to the noooooobs" thing is nonsense.

On September 26 2011 17:21 Jehct wrote:

APM is not a measure of multitasking or mechanics in any way, shape or form. You're doing it wrong. Macro under pressure, on the other hand, is a solid test of multitasking. Are you keeping up with spending lategame? Or while harassing/attacking? Those are your measures.

On September 27 2011 00:32 MorroW wrote:
so u dont get apm by spamming 2323232 but u get apm by spamming move command on the ground with ur scouting worker even if u click him to move to the same location?

to me the only logical way to count apm is by counting everything or excluding all sorts of spam, that includes move commands or attack commands that doesnt make a difference.
for example clicking to move ur scouting overlord 50 times behind ur opponents natural in the same spot before he gets there should also count as spamming. but its too hard to make a realistic and 100% fair EAPM

so by that being said i think the apm bar should include all sorts of spamming. even if u just sit and do 232323 because thats not any worse than ordering your unit to move to same location/direction multiple times within 0.1 seconds

On September 26 2011 21:48 ExquisiteRed wrote:



Those Ret replays are from before the patch. I actually haven't seen any pro replays from after patch 1.4 though, kinda curious what their apm is now.

On September 27 2011 02:29 darthcaesar wrote:
I'm really curious what ViBE and merZ's APM is now.

Personally I dropped from 140-150 to around 110.

On September 27 2011 00:06 jojoleb wrote:
for me honestly my APM has stayed same or in last few games were a bit higher ! at around 150 to 170 APM !
which surprised me as i'm just a platinum ZERG player !


jojo.554

On August 26 2011 22:30 Geovu wrote:
Bad IMO. I will still do the 'tapping' stuff either way, because it is actually necessary and helpful, but it just won't get counted.

In BW clicking on the minimap counted as an action iirc. Blizzard should just stop screwing with crap that wasn't even invented by blizzard. Also fix the 'minute' part of APM, make it count for 60 REAL seconds, because that is what a 'minute' IS.

The only thing this will be helpful for is for people like merz who abuse the system, and for Vibe as well, since he does jack all with his 500 APM lol and everyone knows it. The thing is is that 'everyone' already knows to ignore the obvious spammers because they are playing shitty despite having 300+ APM.

On August 26 2011 22:30 Geovu wrote:Blizzard should just stop screwing with crap that wasn't even invented by blizzard.

On September 27 2011 05:26 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
i feel like this new apm system rewards players who use mouse clciks a lot more then hotkey commands

On September 27 2011 05:28 megaBICEPS wrote:


Only spamming move commands, clicking buildings or units doesn't count towards apm either I don't think.

On September 27 2011 00:42 ZenithM wrote:


Exactly.

And Blizzard's system didn't include camera hotkeys and minimap clicks either pre-patch, and I think they should have.
And I could be wrong but double tapping to center the group on the screen is not considered 2 actions but just 1 pre-patch (0 in this one?). Basically all camera movement methods were not considered APM, although they're most likely part of the most meaningful "Actions", and are the best numerical measure we have of "good multitasking".