Why 1/1/1 is considered to be imbalanced in Korea - Page 66

On August 23 2011 02:01 Yaotzin wrote:

Reavers were also a high tech unit - tech wise it is identical to a colossus... There wasn't a need for a lower tech AoE unit in BW because marines weren't overpowering.

On August 23 2011 05:19 Raid wrote:
I don't think we should nerf terran if this is an issue with TvP they should just give protoss a buff that will help them defend this push. I don't think this push is unstoppable and I just think people need more experience playing against it because honestly there has been a lot of strats that looked unstoppable but fizzled out like 2 rax all ins and what not.

On August 23 2011 04:54 Kiarip wrote:


because terran players never complain after losing lategame against colossus templar carrier right?

On August 23 2011 05:21 koolaid1990 wrote:
Come to think of it, I remember Jinro using it in GSL and winning everytime he used it. 1. He used it on choya on steppes of war, and won. He then used it on hongun and won. Then he played standard the other 2 games and lost. Just shows that 1-1-1 was always alive and kicking even before all the patches

On August 23 2011 05:19 Sabu113 wrote:


DEEP 6 Hwaiting! :D

And this was done by the reaver of the forum. Haven't seen him in too long

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByHAnPlhgek

On August 23 2011 05:04 sekritzzz wrote:

I thought of hallucinations but most of the time the 1-1-1 comes with a raven which completely nullifies hallucination, putting you down 100/100 if anything.

On August 23 2011 05:09 rdr wrote:

Yes but hes a blizzard employee to and is testing the game for balance purpose.

On August 23 2011 03:37 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Funny thing is that every time that a protoss holds the 1/1/1 protoss players start saying how "wrong" was the build executed. Also the he 2nd attack of Puma was just a desperate move but MC's greediness made him lose the game. Also why is no one discussing how socke hold Select's 1/1/1 with colossus or was it executed "wrong" because the terran lost?

On August 23 2011 05:38 Wrongspeedy wrote:


Hrmm and I wonder what Blizzards thoughts are on balance. Oh I don't because they already said they think P is underpowered.

On August 23 2011 05:27 Mentymion wrote:


WTF?! did i just saw ?

That has to be fenix ..It must be!!!!!

How old is that ? Never saw this before..even in the pimpest play Videos

On August 23 2011 05:45 R3demption wrote:

lol! Imagine just imagine a marauder in that game.... Still what changed? Stalkers do less damage (1/2 actually) but are less clunky than dragoons, Marines come with 6 range instead of 5. I dont know how this situation could occur in SC 2 though. Bio units are undoubtedly stronger for Terran in this game.

To tie this in to OP Marines are very strong in SC 2, valued in every match up and are a vital part of the 1-1-1 all in strat. When it comes down to it the Marines are what fuel the 1-1-1. Gateway units do fine vs Tanks/Banshees.

Is it Imba? IMO the strategy is not, but in my experience Terran can safely all in and still be fine with the power of the mule, that might be imba.

On August 23 2011 05:20 ToastieNL wrote:

Suggest a possible buff
Please keep the fragilety of ZvP atm in mind, and remember that it may not buff 4 gate (thus, nothing on Gateway units)
gogogo!

On August 23 2011 05:50 H0i wrote:

Don't forget how zealots were significantly nerfed, and how marines do more damage and can be made twice as fast with reactors, and how they clump up more allowing them to be more effective, and how terran has mule, and how maps...................... (etc etc)

On August 23 2011 05:50 H0i wrote:

Don't forget how zealots were significantly nerfed, and how marines do more damage and can be made twice as fast with reactors, and how they clump up more allowing them to be more effective, and how terran has mule, and how maps...................... (etc etc)

On August 23 2011 05:38 Wrongspeedy wrote:


Hrmm and I wonder what Blizzards thoughts are on balance. Oh I don't because they already said they think P is underpowered. Its just a silly discussion. Blizzard plays a shit ton of games like everybody and people don't give them enough credit. If it was a really big problem they thought they could easily change with one balance fix they would, but thats generally not how patching works. So they will take their time, because the balance isn't so bad that we cannot win games.

I kind of feel like super fast warp prisms are a really good idea vs anyone who is planning on being aggressive. And if you make one before the T pushes out, and keep it alive, there is no way he can afford to just sit at the bottom of your ramp forever, because you are A. Harassing him and B. Have a way to expand around his contain. So I will try making a warp prism next time I think they are gonna try a 1-1-1 (which is really more like a 2-1-1 since you usually get more than one Rax right? Just after the factory and starport?)