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On August 14 2011 10:13 Polskaa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:11 lorkac wrote:
Sigh...
People who perform well in lans get paid
People who don't go to lans, don't get paid
vVv will only sponsor those who are already committed in trying to do well.
For example.
You don't get a burger from a restaurant until you pay for the burger first. The lower quality burger "shacks" require you to pay before you get your item "classy" resteraunts give you a bill at the end I think we have made the the connection here. I wont say it But I will leave it to the people.
Ruth's Chris made $357.6 million in 2010
McDonald's made $6.3 billion
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On August 14 2011 10:22 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:18 SugarBear wrote:On August 14 2011 10:08 genius_man16 wrote:
IMO if you have sponsors that "don't care about online tournaments" you should probably find new sponsors.
Or are players like Nerchio and Sheth not good enough for your sponsors?
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You won't respond to this I guess but whatever. I think you're missing the point of the Nerchio and Sheth success stories. They perform consistently well at LANs. If they did well in online tournaments and then underperformed at every LAN they attended then no one would care about them anymore and they would not be on top sponsored teams. Yes online tournaments are a good indicator of skill but LANs are ultimately where your skills matter. On August 14 2011 10:06 vVvSweep wrote:
If you have all the answers then perhaps you should run your own company and sponsor players.
That's all I have the energy to answer here. There is so much wrong with this whole post and after spending the last 4hours trying to clarify and answer everyone's questions my patience is running out. So in an effort to not cross any professional lines here, I am done for the night and will likely miss out on replying to lots of posts in the hours to come.
So grats to Select on winning the bnet invitational, and goodnight! I've tried running a business and I know that the FIRST thing that you have to do when you start a business is be able to take risks. You have to go out on a limb with your money/time/etc to be able to succeed. And sponsoring a player or two (like CoL) to go to MLG and help them improve is part of the risk taking that ANY AND EVERY business in the world today has had to do. But if you want to just try and extort people for free advertising I suppose that's your right. If people join gl to you guys. To suggest that vVv doesn't take risks is incredibly naive. We are a conservative organization and the level of risk involved in sponsoring a noname player and sending them to MLG is simply more than we are willing to commit to. If you feel that having noname players wearing the vVv tag is exploitative maybe you need to reconsider the benefit vVv receives from having said noname player wearing the vVv logo... Correct me if I'm wrong but nerchio hasn't actually been to lans, he's been playing online (like in IPL) And sheth has been to 0 LANs prior to joining FXO, so those 2 DID go off online results, did they not? Again I could be wrong here.
To be honest I've never heard of Nerchio (at least not much) so I was going more based on Sheth's performance lately.
As far as Nerchio I have no idea who he is or how he is doing.
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On August 14 2011 10:18 SugarBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:08 genius_man16 wrote:
IMO if you have sponsors that "don't care about online tournaments" you should probably find new sponsors.
Or are players like Nerchio and Sheth not good enough for your sponsors?
Edit:
You won't respond to this I guess but whatever. I think you're missing the point of the Nerchio and Sheth success stories. They perform consistently well at LANs. If they did well in online tournaments and then underperformed at every LAN they attended then no one would care about them anymore and they would not be on top sponsored teams. Yes online tournaments are a good indicator of skill but LANs are ultimately where your skills matter. Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:06 vVvSweep wrote:
If you have all the answers then perhaps you should run your own company and sponsor players.
That's all I have the energy to answer here. There is so much wrong with this whole post and after spending the last 4hours trying to clarify and answer everyone's questions my patience is running out. So in an effort to not cross any professional lines here, I am done for the night and will likely miss out on replying to lots of posts in the hours to come.
So grats to Select on winning the bnet invitational, and goodnight! I've tried running a business and I know that the FIRST thing that you have to do when you start a business is be able to take risks. You have to go out on a limb with your money/time/etc to be able to succeed. And sponsoring a player or two (like CoL) to go to MLG and help them improve is part of the risk taking that ANY AND EVERY business in the world today has had to do. But if you want to just try and extort people for free advertising I suppose that's your right. If people join gl to you guys. To suggest that vVv doesn't take risks is incredibly naive. We are a conservative organization and the level of risk involved in sponsoring a noname player and sending them to MLG is simply more than we are willing to commit to. If you feel that having noname players wearing the vVv tag is exploitative maybe you need to reconsider the benefit vVv receives from having said noname player wearing the vVv logo...
1) Nericho nor Sheth participated in ANY LANs before they were acquired by a team actually.
2) You clearly underestimate the power of advertising. Simply having a vVv tag next to my name is enough for some dude standing behind me at MLG to go "Hey who's vVv? Are they a good team? Where can i find out more about them?" etc and then you have someone new that will head to your website and perhaps become a fan, buy your merchandise, etc.
It is quite clear that you are a conservative organization though I'll grant you that.
Perhaps the reason I'm being so fierce about this is because I was extremely exicted about this and wanted to join until I saw that you'd be forcing me to pay for myself to go to LANs that I cannot afford simply to stay on the team.
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On August 14 2011 09:16 vVvSweep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 07:10 TheTrueAmerican wrote:
the fact of the matter is if you can afford to go to LANs where you can show off your skill and place decently you will get noticed by a big organization. you do not need to be apart of this academy in order to get sponsored/noticed like you are trying to lead people to believe. And if someone can afford to go to major LANS and they are currently with a team that gives them nothing I wouldnt represent them. I wouldnt want potential sponsors that look at me to think "hes taken". I would want to get all the offers I could and being apart of vVv would deter sponsors that are willing to pay travel expenses away. This is simply ignorance. Do NFL players not join a team because they don't want people to think "hes taken"? This would take far too much time to explain the complexities of inter organizational arrangements and discussions.
I know a little more about how it works than you think 
and dont try to compare this academy idea to the nfl it has absolutely nothing in common...you're just way in over your head and trying to look for an escape.
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On August 14 2011 10:30 SugarBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:13 Polskaa wrote:On August 14 2011 10:11 lorkac wrote:
Sigh...
People who perform well in lans get paid
People who don't go to lans, don't get paid
vVv will only sponsor those who are already committed in trying to do well.
For example.
You don't get a burger from a restaurant until you pay for the burger first. The lower quality burger "shacks" require you to pay before you get your item "classy" resteraunts give you a bill at the end I think we have made the the connection here. I wont say it But I will leave it to the people. Ruth's Chris made $357.6 million in 2010 McDonald's made $6.3 billion
Ruth's Chris: 130 stores
McDonald's: 32,000+ stores
Ruth's Christ profit per store: $2.75 Million
McDonald's profit per store: ~ $197,000
Would you like some fries with that?
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On August 14 2011 10:30 SugarBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:13 Polskaa wrote:On August 14 2011 10:11 lorkac wrote:
Sigh...
People who perform well in lans get paid
People who don't go to lans, don't get paid
vVv will only sponsor those who are already committed in trying to do well.
For example.
You don't get a burger from a restaurant until you pay for the burger first. The lower quality burger "shacks" require you to pay before you get your item "classy" resteraunts give you a bill at the end I think we have made the the connection here. I wont say it But I will leave it to the people. Ruth's Chris made $357.6 million in 2010 McDonald's made $6.3 billion
I like how you proved my point.
Why does McD make so much money.
People are poor, why pay $13 in our current economy when for a burger
when you can get maybe as filled for $2
Maybe some people enjoy saving money over quality
Not me though
I demand the best and I will pay that amount for the best.
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you want players to attend a major on-site tourney (i dont' like to say lan b/c there is no lan) or two to prove that they are worthy, but you don't expect them to take any games off big name players. which is basically saying, we don't expect anyone to get out of the open brackets or even deep into the open bracket.
if you don't expect success against the big names, why do you choose to ignore online tourneys that have few big names and are mostly filled with players trying to prove they have what it takes? from reading this thread i've gotten the feeling that VVV is trying to recruit lower tier pros, that can't beat premiere pros, but you still want them to enter all the premiere tournaments and lose, instead of entering tourneys you have a chance of winning and going from there.
it's like you're recruiting junior varsity high school football players for the NFL. maybe 1 in a million will have what it takes right away, but most need to play some varsity, and college ball before their ready for the pros.
Good luck with it. hope to see VVV in the future playing good games.
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I do wish this the best of luck and the best of luck to the players who do join. As a player myself though, I do hope you realize how difficult it will be for a player to send themselves to MLGs.
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On August 14 2011 06:09 vVvSweep wrote:
And I will not discuss the benefits and support vVv can and/or will provide in a public forum.
Sounds fishy
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On August 14 2011 10:39 Jawmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 06:09 vVvSweep wrote:
And I will not discuss the benefits and support vVv can and/or will provide in a public forum. Sounds fishy
Nah that's standard practice for competitive e-sports right now. Unlike in sports such as football, teams do not generally divulge contract details outside of their organizations
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The whole deal here is just out of wack. The point Academies should have is to develop talent, not get results and we'll sponsor you. You're basically asking for people to join your team. If you want to run an "academy" it shouldn't be about results right away, it should be about playing high level players online consistently to get better and to a pro level skill to get those results, not just go to LANs, wear our tag, and get good results, then we'll sponsor you.
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I have read the OP and the entire thread and I believe you have made an error. The word "Academy" implies a school or some kind of training or development. However your requirements to join make it very clear that you essentially already have to be a superstar to gain any value out of this association. Do you intend on taking a "good" player of say, I don't know, Destiny's caliber and turning him into Idra? If so who is going to do the coaching because no one in vVv has done anything worthy enough to call themselves qualified. Not to mention the fact that if someone were of said skill level, odds are they would prefer joining a team straight up and developing via practice instead of getting some phony b-tag rating where they have to jump through hoops at great personal expense. So really, what are you providing to potential applicants? OP suggests that you will be "eligible" to receive Steelseries equipment. Eligible? ELIGIBLE?!? You won't even commit to giving away a crappy keyboard and a mouse pad? This whole thing is a joke in my opinion from beginning to end. Proving yet again that vVv just doesn't get it. Back to the drawing board, boys.
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On August 14 2011 10:47 RebelMusic wrote:
I have read the OP and the entire thread and I believe you have made an error. The word "Academy" implies a school or some kind of training or development. However your requirements to join make it very clear that you essentially already have to be a superstar to gain any value out of this association. Do you intend on taking a "good" player of say, I don't know, Destiny's caliber and turning him into Idra? If so who is going to do the coaching because no one in vVv has done anything worthy enough to call themselves qualified. Not to mention the fact that if someone were of said skill level, odds are they would prefer joining a team straight up and developing via practice instead of getting some phony b-tag rating where they have to jump through hoops at great personal expense. So really, what are you providing to potential applicants? OP suggests that you will be "eligible" to receive Steelseries equipment. Eligible? ELIGIBLE?!? You won't even commit to giving away a crappy keyboard and a mouse pad? This whole thing is a joke in my opinion from beginning to end. Proving yet again that vVv just doesn't get it. Back to the drawing board, boys.
You said it before I could
I believe if a players is good enough to go to MLG pay themselves and go far enough
theyll get recogonized by top teams.
Seems like vVv is looking for an easy answer to start showing results at major tournaments.
Here is what an up and comer (hopefully) sees
"hey were kinda a good team but not really
umm you can join our team but we wont give you anything really
unless you do well! sounds good right you get to wear our tshirt.
We wont pay for you or give you any of our sponsored items
if you win online tournaments we wont recoginze you(i dont remember the last time vVv won a online tournament of any caliber)
Well give you training partners, but you kinda have to fight for your spot every month
umm gl hf!"
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On August 14 2011 10:32 SugarBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:22 hunts wrote:On August 14 2011 10:18 SugarBear wrote:On August 14 2011 10:08 genius_man16 wrote:
IMO if you have sponsors that "don't care about online tournaments" you should probably find new sponsors.
Or are players like Nerchio and Sheth not good enough for your sponsors?
Edit:
You won't respond to this I guess but whatever. I think you're missing the point of the Nerchio and Sheth success stories. They perform consistently well at LANs. If they did well in online tournaments and then underperformed at every LAN they attended then no one would care about them anymore and they would not be on top sponsored teams. Yes online tournaments are a good indicator of skill but LANs are ultimately where your skills matter. On August 14 2011 10:06 vVvSweep wrote:
If you have all the answers then perhaps you should run your own company and sponsor players.
That's all I have the energy to answer here. There is so much wrong with this whole post and after spending the last 4hours trying to clarify and answer everyone's questions my patience is running out. So in an effort to not cross any professional lines here, I am done for the night and will likely miss out on replying to lots of posts in the hours to come.
So grats to Select on winning the bnet invitational, and goodnight! I've tried running a business and I know that the FIRST thing that you have to do when you start a business is be able to take risks. You have to go out on a limb with your money/time/etc to be able to succeed. And sponsoring a player or two (like CoL) to go to MLG and help them improve is part of the risk taking that ANY AND EVERY business in the world today has had to do. But if you want to just try and extort people for free advertising I suppose that's your right. If people join gl to you guys. To suggest that vVv doesn't take risks is incredibly naive. We are a conservative organization and the level of risk involved in sponsoring a noname player and sending them to MLG is simply more than we are willing to commit to. If you feel that having noname players wearing the vVv tag is exploitative maybe you need to reconsider the benefit vVv receives from having said noname player wearing the vVv logo... Correct me if I'm wrong but nerchio hasn't actually been to lans, he's been playing online (like in IPL) And sheth has been to 0 LANs prior to joining FXO, so those 2 DID go off online results, did they not? Again I could be wrong here. To be honest I've never heard of Nerchio (at least not much) so I was going more based on Sheth's performance lately. As far as Nerchio I have no idea who he is or how he is doing.
Saddest thing I have read in the whole thread.
Apart from that, I dont get what everybody gets riled u about.
If you dont like the deal, dont join.
If others do like it and join, how is it your business?
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On August 14 2011 10:53 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:32 SugarBear wrote:On August 14 2011 10:22 hunts wrote:On August 14 2011 10:18 SugarBear wrote:On August 14 2011 10:08 genius_man16 wrote:
IMO if you have sponsors that "don't care about online tournaments" you should probably find new sponsors.
Or are players like Nerchio and Sheth not good enough for your sponsors?
Edit:
You won't respond to this I guess but whatever. I think you're missing the point of the Nerchio and Sheth success stories. They perform consistently well at LANs. If they did well in online tournaments and then underperformed at every LAN they attended then no one would care about them anymore and they would not be on top sponsored teams. Yes online tournaments are a good indicator of skill but LANs are ultimately where your skills matter. On August 14 2011 10:06 vVvSweep wrote:
If you have all the answers then perhaps you should run your own company and sponsor players.
That's all I have the energy to answer here. There is so much wrong with this whole post and after spending the last 4hours trying to clarify and answer everyone's questions my patience is running out. So in an effort to not cross any professional lines here, I am done for the night and will likely miss out on replying to lots of posts in the hours to come.
So grats to Select on winning the bnet invitational, and goodnight! I've tried running a business and I know that the FIRST thing that you have to do when you start a business is be able to take risks. You have to go out on a limb with your money/time/etc to be able to succeed. And sponsoring a player or two (like CoL) to go to MLG and help them improve is part of the risk taking that ANY AND EVERY business in the world today has had to do. But if you want to just try and extort people for free advertising I suppose that's your right. If people join gl to you guys. To suggest that vVv doesn't take risks is incredibly naive. We are a conservative organization and the level of risk involved in sponsoring a noname player and sending them to MLG is simply more than we are willing to commit to. If you feel that having noname players wearing the vVv tag is exploitative maybe you need to reconsider the benefit vVv receives from having said noname player wearing the vVv logo... Correct me if I'm wrong but nerchio hasn't actually been to lans, he's been playing online (like in IPL) And sheth has been to 0 LANs prior to joining FXO, so those 2 DID go off online results, did they not? Again I could be wrong here. To be honest I've never heard of Nerchio (at least not much) so I was going more based on Sheth's performance lately. As far as Nerchio I have no idea who he is or how he is doing. Saddest thing I have read in the whole thread. Apart from that, I dont get what everybody gets riled u about. If you dont like the deal, dont join. If others do like it and join, how is it your business?
Yeah I kind of have to agree. Nerchio who has a huge name for himself in like EU now, doing amazingly well in the IPL, only has results in online tournaments but so many people know about him, which is good for advertising for sponsors.
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On August 14 2011 10:32 genius_man16 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:18 SugarBear wrote:On August 14 2011 10:08 genius_man16 wrote:
IMO if you have sponsors that "don't care about online tournaments" you should probably find new sponsors.
Or are players like Nerchio and Sheth not good enough for your sponsors?
Edit:
You won't respond to this I guess but whatever. I think you're missing the point of the Nerchio and Sheth success stories. They perform consistently well at LANs. If they did well in online tournaments and then underperformed at every LAN they attended then no one would care about them anymore and they would not be on top sponsored teams. Yes online tournaments are a good indicator of skill but LANs are ultimately where your skills matter. On August 14 2011 10:06 vVvSweep wrote:
If you have all the answers then perhaps you should run your own company and sponsor players.
That's all I have the energy to answer here. There is so much wrong with this whole post and after spending the last 4hours trying to clarify and answer everyone's questions my patience is running out. So in an effort to not cross any professional lines here, I am done for the night and will likely miss out on replying to lots of posts in the hours to come.
So grats to Select on winning the bnet invitational, and goodnight! I've tried running a business and I know that the FIRST thing that you have to do when you start a business is be able to take risks. You have to go out on a limb with your money/time/etc to be able to succeed. And sponsoring a player or two (like CoL) to go to MLG and help them improve is part of the risk taking that ANY AND EVERY business in the world today has had to do. But if you want to just try and extort people for free advertising I suppose that's your right. If people join gl to you guys. To suggest that vVv doesn't take risks is incredibly naive. We are a conservative organization and the level of risk involved in sponsoring a noname player and sending them to MLG is simply more than we are willing to commit to. If you feel that having noname players wearing the vVv tag is exploitative maybe you need to reconsider the benefit vVv receives from having said noname player wearing the vVv logo... 1) Nericho nor Sheth participated in ANY LANs before they were acquired by a team actually. 2) You clearly underestimate the power of advertising. Simply having a vVv tag next to my name is enough for some dude standing behind me at MLG to go "Hey who's vVv? Are they a good team? Where can i find out more about them?" etc and then you have someone new that will head to your website and perhaps become a fan, buy your merchandise, etc. It is quite clear that you are a conservative organization though I'll grant you that. Perhaps the reason I'm being so fierce about this is because I was extremely exicted about this and wanted to join until I saw that you'd be forcing me to pay for myself to go to LANs that I cannot afford simply to stay on the team.
1. I didn't say they attended/performed at LANs BEFORE they were picked up, I said that their performance (at least Sheth's) is highly likely a reason for his continued sponsorship.
2. We are one of (if not THE) largest gaming communities in north America. We easily have upwards of 20+ members wearing the vVv logo attending every MLG (most of them paying out of pocket to attend, by the way), not counting sponsored players. We have no need for additional bodies wearing out logo.
I"m sorry that you feel the requirement to attend a LAN is too onerous for you to meet. I would still suggest going to the vVv website (http://www.vvv-gaming.com) to learn more about us and see if you would like to join as a community member, in case your situation changes and you might one day be able to attend a few LAN events per year..
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Sugarbear,
People are trying to show you
you dont have to appear at LANs to be a powerhouse in this community.
by putting the rule you have to go to LANs to play for us
means you are missing out on ALOT of good talent.
If youre looking for NEW players why would you narrow down options
example: vVv basketball team is looking for a new center
The center has to be atleast 7'3 or he cannot join the team
This example shows that you are cutting youre chances of finding a good player.
Just becuase a player isnt 7'3(in this case pay for his trips to MLG) does not mean he is not dedicated or just as good or even BETTER than the 7'3 player.
Dont want the good talent on your team?
Your choice
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On August 14 2011 05:47 SugarBear wrote:
Lots of feelings of entitlement so far in this thread. Are there any players serious about personal development in a structured environment who want to comment?
I feel like the type of support they are talking about could be entirely organized through a normal clan though, without an emphasis on attending events.
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On August 14 2011 10:59 SugarBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 10:32 genius_man16 wrote:On August 14 2011 10:18 SugarBear wrote:On August 14 2011 10:08 genius_man16 wrote:
IMO if you have sponsors that "don't care about online tournaments" you should probably find new sponsors.
Or are players like Nerchio and Sheth not good enough for your sponsors?
Edit:
You won't respond to this I guess but whatever. I think you're missing the point of the Nerchio and Sheth success stories. They perform consistently well at LANs. If they did well in online tournaments and then underperformed at every LAN they attended then no one would care about them anymore and they would not be on top sponsored teams. Yes online tournaments are a good indicator of skill but LANs are ultimately where your skills matter. On August 14 2011 10:06 vVvSweep wrote:
If you have all the answers then perhaps you should run your own company and sponsor players.
That's all I have the energy to answer here. There is so much wrong with this whole post and after spending the last 4hours trying to clarify and answer everyone's questions my patience is running out. So in an effort to not cross any professional lines here, I am done for the night and will likely miss out on replying to lots of posts in the hours to come.
So grats to Select on winning the bnet invitational, and goodnight! I've tried running a business and I know that the FIRST thing that you have to do when you start a business is be able to take risks. You have to go out on a limb with your money/time/etc to be able to succeed. And sponsoring a player or two (like CoL) to go to MLG and help them improve is part of the risk taking that ANY AND EVERY business in the world today has had to do. But if you want to just try and extort people for free advertising I suppose that's your right. If people join gl to you guys. To suggest that vVv doesn't take risks is incredibly naive. We are a conservative organization and the level of risk involved in sponsoring a noname player and sending them to MLG is simply more than we are willing to commit to. If you feel that having noname players wearing the vVv tag is exploitative maybe you need to reconsider the benefit vVv receives from having said noname player wearing the vVv logo... 1) Nericho nor Sheth participated in ANY LANs before they were acquired by a team actually. 2) You clearly underestimate the power of advertising. Simply having a vVv tag next to my name is enough for some dude standing behind me at MLG to go "Hey who's vVv? Are they a good team? Where can i find out more about them?" etc and then you have someone new that will head to your website and perhaps become a fan, buy your merchandise, etc. It is quite clear that you are a conservative organization though I'll grant you that. Perhaps the reason I'm being so fierce about this is because I was extremely exicted about this and wanted to join until I saw that you'd be forcing me to pay for myself to go to LANs that I cannot afford simply to stay on the team. 1. I didn't say they attended/performed at LANs BEFORE they were picked up, I said that their performance (at least Sheth's) is highly likely a reason for his continued sponsorship. 2. We are one of (if not THE) largest gaming communities in north America. We easily have upwards of 20+ members wearing the vVv logo attending every MLG (most of them paying out of pocket to attend, by the way), not counting sponsored players. We have no need for additional bodies wearing out logo. I"m sorry that you feel the requirement to attend a LAN is too onerous for you to meet. I would still suggest going to the vVv website (http://www.vvv-gaming.com) to learn more about us and see if you would like to join as a community member, in case your situation changes and you might one day be able to attend a few LAN events per year..
> implying vVv is kind of a big deal (in SC II community)
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On August 14 2011 10:47 RebelMusic wrote:
I have read the OP and the entire thread and I believe you have made an error. The word "Academy" implies a school or some kind of training or development. However your requirements to join make it very clear that you essentially already have to be a superstar to gain any value out of this association. Do you intend on taking a "good" player of say, I don't know, Destiny's caliber and turning him into Idra? If so who is going to do the coaching because no one in vVv has done anything worthy enough to call themselves qualified. Not to mention the fact that if someone were of said skill level, odds are they would prefer joining a team straight up and developing via practice instead of getting some phony b-tag rating where they have to jump through hoops at great personal expense. So really, what are you providing to potential applicants? OP suggests that you will be "eligible" to receive Steelseries equipment. Eligible? ELIGIBLE?!? You won't even commit to giving away a crappy keyboard and a mouse pad? This whole thing is a joke in my opinion from beginning to end. Proving yet again that vVv just doesn't get it. Back to the drawing board, boys.
It seems like half of this page is just reiterating this point over and over again, so let me just address it once. If you are concerned that you are a superstar and stand to lose out by joining/applying for the vVv Academy then please don't join. We don't want divas, we want people who are serious about improving and willing to commit the time and training to do so.
For those of us living in reality, and realize that we aren't asking Idra to leave EG and apply for the Academy team, here is a solid opportunity for you to practice with some of North America's top players, potentially earn a sponsorship if you can improve to a level where you CAN compete at a high level, get experience in Clan Wars and LANs, get access to sponsors, get access to a large fan base and community...
Actually, I sincerely apologize. I just realized how incredibly offensive it is to provide this opportunity to the SC2 community. I should have realized that people want to be stuck finding their own practice partners, finding contact info for sponsors, building their own fan base, and that every master level player is getting offers from top level organizations like EG and SK gaming left and right.
Oh wait.
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