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About the vVv Academy
The vVv Academy's central focus is the development of good players into great players while following the core values of the orginazation: Entertain, Educate, Dominate. We work closely with other teams to expand on our training atmosphere as well as with our vVv Team.
There will be a lot expected from Academy members, and in return, after a 90 day consecutive stay within the Academy you will become eligible to receive Steelseries equipment when you attend a Major LAN.
vVv Academy Application Process
1. The maximum number of players on the team will be 6.
2. The maximum number of players per race will be 2.
3. You must be in masters or grandmasters league to apply.
4. Read this post on the application process.
5. There will be a tournament held on the first Sunday of every month (date may vary due to holidays or other events). The tournament will be a BO3 double elimination tournament. This tournament will determine who will stay, join, and leave the Academy.
5.1 The first tournament will be held on October 2nd, 2011. Sign up here. (This requires a registration key that you will have to request from me via PM or e-mail at kozlovich.a@gmail.com.)
5.2 The first place finisher of this tournament will receive a $50 prize.
If you have any questions comments or concerns please feel free to ask. Again, we are looking for serious and dedicated players only.
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if im reading this right...you actually dont pay for anyone to go to a LAN but you expect them to go to major LANs with their own money anyway. At least with coL Academy they pay for the winner of their tournament to go to MLG. I dont really see the benefit of this besides the practice and even then ladder is just as good for that.
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You basically need a full time job just to pay for the travel.
Going to MLG 2 months in a row with NASL in between and travel to europe for Dreamhack and IEM.
Sounds fun, but costly.
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As mentioned by the first two posts, you're expecting second tier players to compete in major LANs (out of their own expense lawl) and expect them to perform well? Good luck with that.
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If what TrueAmerican / Kammalleri say are true that u do not pay for the players or help them pay then why would i rep vVv when i could just go myself... ?
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i HOPE you're paying for people to attend LANs because it would be absolutely ridiculous to expect members to attend at their own expense or else they will be removed from the team. I'm sure this isn't the case, however, because that would just be atrocious management.
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If vVv would cover my costs for the LANs then I would apply. I simpy can't afford to go to tons of LANs, even the UK ones at the moment =/
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Lots of feelings of entitlement so far in this thread. Are there any players serious about personal development in a structured environment who want to comment?
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This would be intresting if I could afford to auctally go to major lans. But I don't have the money to do so. Sounds nice. But Just a little expensive for me.
Otherwise I would be happy to apply.
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On August 14 2011 05:47 SugarBear wrote:
Lots of feelings of entitlement so far in this thread. Are there any players serious about personal development in a structured environment who want to comment?
the only problem people are really talking about is the fact they have to pay for their own travel to major events which costs hundreds of dollars per event or they will get kicked off the team.
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On August 14 2011 05:47 SugarBear wrote:
Lots of feelings of entitlement so far in this thread. Are there any players serious about personal development in a structured environment who want to comment?
I'm sure there are many players interested in personal development, but the requirment to go to lan's is just so expensive.
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On August 14 2011 05:47 SugarBear wrote:
Lots of feelings of entitlement so far in this thread. Are there any players serious about personal development in a structured environment who want to comment?
To be fair I think they bring up some good points. Traveling cross-country and even across the globe (considering Dreamhack is considered a "Major LAN") is not extremely affordable for a lot of people. As well, at the level that these players play it, one could argue whether the trip would even be beneficial (from a cost-benefit analysis perspective). Hopefully it was just a quick oversight on vVv's part though - I'm sure that if they had the financial support in place there would be a lot of interest from the community.
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On August 14 2011 05:47 SugarBear wrote:
Lots of feelings of entitlement so far in this thread. Are there any players serious about personal development in a structured environment who want to comment?
You're the on acting rather entitled, offering a vague training program for the cost of hundreds of dollars to the trainee in order for promotion of your tag at major events to no cost for you. It's silly to expect people to want to pay hundreds of dollars to go to EVERY MAJOR LAN that they are most likely going to lose in 2-3 rounds in. You don't even explain your reasoning as to why the expect people to go to these lans.
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There are hardly any weekends in a year when none of those LANs are running.
Dreamhack is 2 events, MLG is 6, IEM is more than 1, NASL is 3+ times a year...
How are you meant to go to NASL? As if anyone in the Academy would actually qualify, which means you'd be going as a spectator but compelled to do so.
So you'd need a job to pay for all the travel, but NO job to be able to travel to all the LANs.
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You need to look at the big picture, you get a free mouse and keyboard! After 90 days though, lmao....
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Let me start by apologizing for the confusion in the post. I have edited the OP to be a little more accurate.
Now I will try and explain a few more things here as far as LAN and support from vVv.
If you do not attend any major LANs as defined in the OP then you are not representing vVv in anything important. When someone is looking for a sponsorship it always seems to be this question of "what will you do for me if i represent you?" If this is your thought process then you have likely never been sponsored by a real organization.
If you cannot attend major LANs (no matter what the reason) then I can settle this by saying the vVv Academy is not for you. If you CAN attend major LANs and you perform well, then there will be support from vVv. vVv-gaming is a very large organization and while strict on what we expect, our rewards are always on par with your performance.
I want you to think about the process here... If a company pays your entire travel expenses (several hundred dollars) to attend a LAN, then you are expected to produce a fan base worth those several hundred dollars. If you aren't able to keep up with your part of the deal then you are fooling yourself to think a sponsor will keep you.
And I will not discuss the benefits and support vVv can and/or will provide in a public forum.
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I'm going to next two MLGs. put me in coach!~
Good luck to all applicants!
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On August 14 2011 06:09 vVvSweep wrote:
Let me start by apologizing for the confusion in the post. I have edited the OP to be a little more accurate.
Now I will try and explain a few more things here as far as LAN and support from vVv.
If you do not attend any major LANs as defined in the OP then you are not representing vVv in anything important. When someone is looking for a sponsorship it always seems to be this question of "what will you do for me if i represent you?" If this is your thought process then you have likely never been sponsored by a real organization.
If you cannot attend major LANs (no matter what the reason) then I can settle this by saying the vVv Academy is not for you. If you CAN attend major LANs and you perform well, then there will be support from vVv. vVv-gaming is a very large organization and while strict on what we expect, our rewards are always on par with your performance.
I want you to think about the process here... If a company pays your entire travel expenses (several hundred dollars) to attend a LAN, then you are expected to produce a fan base worth those several hundred dollars. If you aren't able to keep up with your part of the deal then you are fooling yourself to think a sponsor will keep you.
And I will not discuss the benefits and support vVv can and/or will provide in a public forum.
sounds more reasonable.
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ok so what we thought originally was true. you do not pay LAN fees but expect them to pay their way to go there and do well in them. for a "very large organization" i have to say thats pretty sad you cant pay for at least one of your academy members...
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I think I'll just take my sponsorship from fake organizations then, the money is just as green.
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