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Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 19:12:38
August 06 2011 05:26 GMT
#1
Maybe this has been brought up before, but has Blizzard recently changed the button to leave a multiplayer game? Before the "blue flame icon" patch I would always type gg then F10 -> N instantly to surrender (as N is the hotkey). However now after the patch if I mistype gg (putting a single g or hitting some nearby letter), then the new surrender button is now "Quit" and requires the hotkey Q, thus not allowing me to smoothly F10 -> N out of the game. Yet if I properly type the gg then I can "Surrender" as normal. New blizzard manner initiative or am I just seeing things?

Edit: So apparently on (some?) of the newly introduced maps, the button to leave has been changed to Quit, while on the older maps, the Surrender option is still available. This seems to be the only variable.
straight poppin
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 06 2011 05:28 GMT
#2
no because I press f10 N and leave just fine.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Pe[N]guiN
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada48 Posts
August 06 2011 05:28 GMT
#3
i noticed this too... fishy
Giant Balls of Karune
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 06 2011 05:28 GMT
#4
I believe in 1v1's it's surrender but in everything else it's quit. Maybe that's the difference?
CapnCDaWg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States179 Posts
August 06 2011 05:28 GMT
#5
I think it depends on the map, I've noticed it before too. On the newer, recently added maps, you need to press q for quit.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
August 06 2011 05:29 GMT
#6
The new maps don't offer the standard buttons. We talked about it briefly in this thread. The consensus was it was pretty lame. Old maps should still follow the old F10 -> N pattern. It doesn't have to do with typing gg or anything as far as I know.
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 05:31:02
August 06 2011 05:30 GMT
#7
Ah well that sounds more reasonable. I just tried to find a pattern where the button randomly turned to quit instead of the beloved surrender =)
straight poppin
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
August 06 2011 05:35 GMT
#8
On August 06 2011 14:30 Penecks wrote:
Ah well that sounds more reasonable. I just tried to find a pattern where the button randomly turned to quit instead of the beloved surrender =)

Everyone was baffled. We can only hope Blizzard quickly realizes this oversight and corrects it. It's super annoying as it stands. Glad to have helped. :D
harhar!
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany190 Posts
August 06 2011 05:37 GMT
#9
btw i would say, that blizz should have a safetyquestion like" do you really want to surrender, nub?", so i dont accidentaly surrender while i was about to pause the game.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
August 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#10
btw i would say, that blizz should have a safetyquestion like" do you really want to surrender, nub?", so i dont accidentaly surrender while i was about to pause the game.


LOL I have done this before too! Totally sucks, now EVERY time I press F10 I make sure I drop my APM like 100 :-D
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stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
August 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#11
I noticed this as well, Blizz needs to fix. Now I guess I'll just press gg-> N+Q at the same time.
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
August 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#12
On August 06 2011 14:37 harhar! wrote:
btw i would say, that blizz should have a safetyquestion like" do you really want to surrender, nub?", so i dont accidentaly surrender while i was about to pause the game.

You can pause the game by hitting the Pause\Break key on your keyboard. Cool huh?
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Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
August 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#13
Wow you people complain about the most trivial crap...

User was warned for this post
Phant
Profile Joined August 2010
United States737 Posts
August 06 2011 05:44 GMT
#14
I just played a 4v4 and used F10 N, maybe it's custom games?
AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
August 06 2011 05:47 GMT
#15
i also noticed this when i won and insted of the score screeen button i got the quit nd i thought they were trying to steal my points
Terran Metal for the Win
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 06 2011 05:48 GMT
#16
Yeah I've noticed it to
It bothered me at first because I'd press F10 N and it wouldnt surrender, but now I automatically go to Q after N doesnt work
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
landmarktiger
Profile Joined April 2011
226 Posts
August 06 2011 05:53 GMT
#17
This has been bothering me also - right after i loose a game and nothing was going the way i planned and i am full of rage there is one more thing to tip me over the top - F10-N doesnt seem to work always. I dont know what the criteria for it working is though since it does seem to work sometimes and sometimes it doesnt
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
August 06 2011 06:03 GMT
#18
I haven't noticed this change. Of course, I haven't yet been in a situation where I would have to press F10 -> N in the first place, if you know what I'm getting at...
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KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
August 06 2011 07:57 GMT
#19
I've been going f10--N in all maps. Only time I've had to go f-10 q is when watching replays.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
August 06 2011 08:01 GMT
#20
Pretty sure I had to press Q the other time.
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Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 06 2011 08:02 GMT
#21
F10 N works just fine :o
pileopoop
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada317 Posts
August 06 2011 08:13 GMT
#22
f10 N is for melee maps, f10 Q is for non melee maps
Crushgroove
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
August 06 2011 08:14 GMT
#23
On August 06 2011 14:44 Disquiet wrote:
Wow you people complain about the most trivial crap...


This. You really think there aren't bigger, more pressing issues with the game? "Oh no, I can't hit 'n' to leave a game on Searing Crater..." How about we ask why searing crater even exists... such a terrible map.
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enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
August 06 2011 08:15 GMT
#24
Yep, noticed that too.

Made me even more rage cause the game wouldn't just end though it slammed the keyboard >.<
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Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
August 06 2011 08:16 GMT
#25
I don't even think it's all of the new maps, but at least one of them has it. I could be wrong, they might all have it. That's definitely something I came across on the ladder.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
August 06 2011 08:18 GMT
#26
for me it only happens on the new 1n1 maps
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 06 2011 08:19 GMT
#27
I just wish they'd give us back alt+QQ to quit, then QQ will actually have its meaning again.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
August 06 2011 08:20 GMT
#28
yea, sometimes I rage and wanna quit asap and press f10+n and keep spamming n and not realising why I am still watching myself getting slaughtered.
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
August 06 2011 08:24 GMT
#29
I've noticed this too, that sometimes I have to press Q
Not sure why
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Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
August 06 2011 08:27 GMT
#30
On August 06 2011 17:14 Crushgroove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 14:44 Disquiet wrote:
Wow you people complain about the most trivial crap...


This. You really think there aren't bigger, more pressing issues with the game? "Oh no, I can't hit 'n' to leave a game on Searing Crater..." How about we ask why searing crater even exists... such a terrible map.


What makes you think they are complaining? The tone of the OP is more along the lines of "here's something weird I noticed."

Do you really go around assuming people are always complaining? Because if so, that would be kinda annoying man.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
August 06 2011 08:32 GMT
#31
On August 06 2011 14:44 Disquiet wrote:
Wow you people complain about the most trivial crap...

Complaining about people complaining. How meta.
EnOmy
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia183 Posts
August 06 2011 08:47 GMT
#32
seems minor. It means i either leave blindingly quickly or unbelievably quickly. nbd
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Laurence
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland119 Posts
August 06 2011 08:51 GMT
#33
Yeah i didn't gg on one of the new maps and had to press q instead of n
I pwn n00bs
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
August 06 2011 08:53 GMT
#34
Its only on the new maps where it says quit, im sure blizzard will patch it soon enough
Initiative
Profile Joined July 2011
United States131 Posts
August 06 2011 08:54 GMT
#35
I actually had this happen after a win the other day. My opponent left and the score screen window popped up, but I was clicking something at the time and ended up clicking on resume game. I pressed f10 s, but the score screen button was replaced by quit.

Made me do a double take, thought maybe my opponent was doing some left the game chat tricks, but no, the score screen button in the f10 menu seems to have been replaced with quit.
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
August 06 2011 09:37 GMT
#36
Its always Quit for Custom maps and Surrender for Melee maps. Somehow Blizzard did a setting wrong on the new maps so you have to press Quit. I guess it will be fixed soon.

(This happens on some GSL, iCCup, etc. maps too)
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jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
August 06 2011 09:37 GMT
#37
Actually I think this is a feature. It's hard to confirm this, but here's my theory:

When you lose, the button hotkey is N (for surrender, makes sense).
When you win, the button hotkey is Q.

Why might Blizzard do something along the lines of this?

It prevents people from accidentally surrendering against opponents who try chat tricks or pause-leavegame tricks. If you see an "error message" or fake "player has left the game", this could prevent you from accidentally quitting.

Again, this is just a theory. I haven't played enough games to confirm or deny any of the speculations in this thread.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
August 06 2011 09:47 GMT
#38
On August 06 2011 18:37 jnkw wrote:
Actually I think this is a feature. It's hard to confirm this, but here's my theory:

When you lose, the button hotkey is N (for surrender, makes sense).
When you win, the button hotkey is Q.

Why might Blizzard do something along the lines of this?

It prevents people from accidentally surrendering against opponents who try chat tricks or pause-leavegame tricks. If you see an "error message" or fake "player has left the game", this could prevent you from accidentally quitting.

Again, this is just a theory. I haven't played enough games to confirm or deny any of the speculations in this thread.

Nah that cant be it, when you win you hit 's' for score screen.
jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
August 06 2011 09:52 GMT
#39
On August 06 2011 18:47 Ryder. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 18:37 jnkw wrote:
Actually I think this is a feature. It's hard to confirm this, but here's my theory:

When you lose, the button hotkey is N (for surrender, makes sense).
When you win, the button hotkey is Q.

Why might Blizzard do something along the lines of this?

It prevents people from accidentally surrendering against opponents who try chat tricks or pause-leavegame tricks. If you see an "error message" or fake "player has left the game", this could prevent you from accidentally quitting.

Again, this is just a theory. I haven't played enough games to confirm or deny any of the speculations in this thread.

Nah that cant be it, when you win you hit 's' for score screen.


If you hit Return to Game the option has to be in the menu.

But oddly enough, I recall having to press Q for quit instead of S for score screen a couple of times. Maybe it was just me.
Proto-n
Profile Joined September 2010
Hungary6 Posts
August 06 2011 09:53 GMT
#40
I just want to ALT+Q+Q out of games, for old times sake
It's possible to change f10 to alt+q, its not possible to change n to q
How sad
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 06 2011 09:55 GMT
#41
On August 06 2011 17:32 TheGrimace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 14:44 Disquiet wrote:
Wow you people complain about the most trivial crap...

Complaining about people complaining. How meta.

Complaining about people complaining about people complaining. How meta-meta.

See? This line of argument gets you nowhere.
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
August 06 2011 09:57 GMT
#42
Bring back alt qq!
jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
August 06 2011 10:11 GMT
#43
On August 06 2011 18:53 Proto-n wrote:
I just want to ALT+Q+Q out of games, for old times sake
It's possible to change f10 to alt+q, its not possible to change n to q
How sad


That hotkey was especially bad for WC3 because Alt was the healthbar hotkey and a few spells (especially the Beastmaster's quillbeast summons) had hotkey Q
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
August 06 2011 11:12 GMT
#44
because Alt was the healthbar hotkey

HP-bars are always ON
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45431 Posts
August 06 2011 11:17 GMT
#45
I swear mine alternates between Quit and Surrender options >.>

F10 + Q and F10 + N, and only after the patch did I ever have to Quit (rather than Surrender) a game that was still going on.

And this happens for me on ladder games, as that's all I play.
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skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
August 06 2011 11:30 GMT
#46
On August 06 2011 18:57 Ikonn wrote:
Bring back alt qq!

/sign
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
August 06 2011 11:59 GMT
#47
Guys, this bug is only on 1 of the new maps. I hope they fix it tho^^
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dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
August 06 2011 12:00 GMT
#48
On August 06 2011 20:12 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
because Alt was the healthbar hotkey

HP-bars are always ON

They were not at the beginning of WC3. Eventually they added the option to turn them to 'always on', but a long time you had to *hold* the ALT key to get that effect. I remember still holding ALT for a while even though I had that option enabled, just out of habit.
UniversalMind
Profile Joined March 2011
United States326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 12:03:38
August 06 2011 12:03 GMT
#49
F10 N ftw, wait.....
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
August 06 2011 12:06 GMT
#50
Rebinded F10 -> H is more good.

H -> N ftw more.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
August 06 2011 12:13 GMT
#51
As far as I can tell there is random alternation between F10 N and Q for surrender as there also is for victory between S and Q.

I have noticed this since the blue flame patch, though it might be be related to the ladder reset and the new map pool - i.e. the new maps are coded (badly) in such a way as to prompt Q instead of N/S upon players leaving.

However I have not done research into this to confirm it any further... It's fairly low on my list of priorities.

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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
August 06 2011 12:17 GMT
#52
Alt qq indeed should be a new fix, would bring back a nice feel to Bnet. But that would be taking a step back to a better (older) bnet which they wouldn't want! Although I don't really hit hotkeys to ever leave games by that point I just f10 and click it by hand. Don't really know why though.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
August 06 2011 12:17 GMT
#53
On August 06 2011 20:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I swear mine alternates between Quit and Surrender options >.>

F10 + Q and F10 + N, and only after the patch did I ever have to Quit (rather than Surrender) a game that was still going on.

And this happens for me on ladder games, as that's all I play.


me too, and i always "gg" so that's unrelated. I haven't noticed if it's specific maps...
letmegopls
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
105 Posts
August 06 2011 12:19 GMT
#54
its quit instead of score screen (when you win) too
but it alternates aswell
Fiend13
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany140 Posts
August 06 2011 12:29 GMT
#55
If you don't use hotkeys to leave the game you won't have accidents.
Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
August 06 2011 12:32 GMT
#56
actually this is something I've only noticed on the new maps all the old maps its still F10 -> N
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
August 06 2011 12:40 GMT
#57
On August 06 2011 18:57 Ikonn wrote:
Bring back alt qq!

Ahhh, the rage quitting memories
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Raikia
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Guernsey59 Posts
August 06 2011 12:47 GMT
#58
I know at least if the map makers did not make the leave button called 'Surrender' it will default to quit, and it seems on some of the new ones they did not change it to 'Surrender'.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
August 06 2011 12:48 GMT
#59
I actually won a game because of this the other day. As I moved out 3 reapers came in and started to mess up my probe line so I attacked while warping in 2 stalkers at home which proceeds to be stupid and not move 3 pixels to be in range of the reapers so I lost 75% of my probe so I went for the good ole no gg f10n and was surprised when I was still in the game. Decided to just attack with everything and try to win which I did.
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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
August 06 2011 12:51 GMT
#60
On August 06 2011 18:57 Ikonn wrote:
Bring back alt qq!


Seconded. Enter gg enter alt qq was an important part of my life.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
August 06 2011 12:58 GMT
#61
Wish Blizzard left in ALT + QQ

So much easier and more meaningful
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SlySly
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 06 2011 13:24 GMT
#62
I'm pretty sure the old maps ( Tal'darim, Shattered and so on ) require F10 + N while the new maps require F10 Q and even Q for the score screen.
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
August 06 2011 13:37 GMT
#63
On August 06 2011 22:24 SlySly wrote:
I'm pretty sure the old maps ( Tal'darim, Shattered and so on ) require F10 + N while the new maps require F10 Q and even Q for the score screen.


Only 1 of the new map requires the "Q"
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BushidoSnipr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States910 Posts
August 06 2011 13:38 GMT
#64
this is way too nitpicky im sorry
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
August 06 2011 13:45 GMT
#65
On August 06 2011 22:38 BushidoSnipr wrote:
this is way too nitpicky im sorry


Its pretty strange you gotta admit. Why are the hotkeys for quitting map specific anyway?
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WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
August 06 2011 13:48 GMT
#66
i always let my opponent destroy all my buildings. so i dont need to leave the game. the game does it for me. yay
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CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
August 06 2011 23:03 GMT
#67
As with all maps, I believe unless you select the option 'melee', you won't get a surrender option, my guess is that when they added the maps to the map pool they didn't configure them the same way as the old ones, so they're not setup as 'melee' maps.
chaopow
Profile Joined March 2011
United States556 Posts
August 06 2011 23:07 GMT
#68
Its just the new maps. Some of the new maps have the F10 Q, and most of the old maps are still F10 N. It was probably just a coincidence that you mistyped GG on the F10 Q maps. I'm not sure which maps have the Quit and which maps have the Surrender though, but I have noticed these things.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 06 2011 23:11 GMT
#69
As many others have said, it's some of the new maps. If I custom game an old map like Xel, it's f10 N, but on a map like Antiga or Nerazim (nezarim?) I have to f10 Q
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Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
August 06 2011 23:13 GMT
#70
I have noticed that sometimes when I win a ladder match, I have to press Q instead of S to get to the score screen. Very interesting.
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jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
August 07 2011 00:49 GMT
#71
On August 06 2011 20:12 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
because Alt was the healthbar hotkey

HP-bars are always ON


Wrong. Blizzard patched in an OPTION for wc3 to have healthbars always on.
Virtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States318 Posts
August 07 2011 00:50 GMT
#72
I think it is based on who the map is made by. I know I f10-n on ladder, but when I play some Iccup or MLG maps, it is sometime f10-q instead.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
August 07 2011 00:54 GMT
#73
On August 06 2011 22:37 Cosmos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 22:24 SlySly wrote:
I'm pretty sure the old maps ( Tal'darim, Shattered and so on ) require F10 + N while the new maps require F10 Q and even Q for the score screen.


Only 1 of the new map requires the "Q"


...which one?????
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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
August 07 2011 00:54 GMT
#74
This happened to me yesterday, but I didn't think of the possibility that it was the map. Looking through match history, the one that showed the surrender option was in the game before season 3, and the one that showed Quit was a season 3 map.
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Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
August 07 2011 00:58 GMT
#75
why it isnt Alt QQ is weird to me. Also, it is random from my understanding. Sometimes Quit, sometimes Surrender, its annoying as hell.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
August 07 2011 01:15 GMT
#76
Not as bad as the old surrender button I hope, the one which would trip if you pressed ANY key on the keyboard. Ahhhh those were the days, winning and losing games because someone accidentally loses connection for split second
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Saicam
Profile Joined July 2011
262 Posts
August 07 2011 01:17 GMT
#77
F10 N ftw
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
August 07 2011 01:18 GMT
#78
kinda creeps me the fuck out, because im so used to pressing S to go to score screen and when i see quit i think im getting tricked or something.
Maruprime.
harhar!
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany190 Posts
August 07 2011 01:19 GMT
#79
On August 06 2011 14:44 sh4w wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 14:37 harhar! wrote:
btw i would say, that blizz should have a safetyquestion like" do you really want to surrender, nub?", so i dont accidentaly surrender while i was about to pause the game.

You can pause the game by hitting the Pause\Break key on your keyboard. Cool huh?


nah. i'd rather have a safetyquestion, before having to learn another useless hotkey. (even if it is p or some shit)
skirmisheR
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden451 Posts
August 07 2011 04:24 GMT
#80
I don't see the point in using different surrender/quit buttons, even if the difference is that you are playing or if you are watching a replay. Not a big concern of mine, but still I can see why the new maps are F10 + Q, maybe blizzard just didn't think of it, but I don't see the reasoning behind actually having different hotkeys for quitting in replays/games, I don't THAT is a mistake from blizzard but that they actually thought that "this is a good idea". I don't see the point :S
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
August 07 2011 15:06 GMT
#81
on a similar note, does anybody know where i can change the hotkeys for surrender and such??
i can't find them in tin the hotkeys menu...
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