EPTOn July 30 2011 19:57 demonic_mortal wrote:
well that sucks
well that sucks
pretty much my exact thought on the matter
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Rorra
Australia1066 Posts
pretty much my exact thought on the matter | ||
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Toxi78
966 Posts
to prevent a way of doing so, you penalize the whole community. so basically, the hackers have succeeded right ? since because of them, none of us will get the replays. it makes just no sense at all. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On July 30 2011 19:57 Angry_Fetus wrote: This is an awful awful move. You're going to prevent people from getting access to high level replays which are in very high demand, making a large amount of your audience angry because you want to prevent some chat spam? Is this April 1st? Do you honestly believe thats the reason? rofl. | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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Oriatis
Austria57 Posts
1) the time the matches are played is not very good for me 2) i wanted to steal some builds to improve, but now it's obviously not possible i hope that MLG can find a way where both parties are happy with! | ||
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Angry_Fetus
Canada444 Posts
On July 30 2011 20:02 TheAntZ wrote: Do you honestly believe thats the reason? rofl. Did you honestly not read the OP? rofl. EDIT: DDOS is a poor choice of words in our release. Chat spam on the game clients which lags the game is what was meant. If you're referring to the scenario where this is just a money grab, then that is irrelevant, as I'm addressing their reasoning. Thanks for coming out though, appreciate it. | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On July 30 2011 19:51 TheAntZ wrote: Good idea, lets deny a service that fans dearly love, because it'd be awful if someone else made a couple of dollars. Yeah, lets fuck over thousands of fans instead, that 20$ that one commentator made from casting MLG replays on his youtube is RUINING ESPORTS I normally have a lot of respect for you and whatever you post Boss but this is just... I appreciate your point of view, I really do. But one thing that I have always been a true believer in is, you have to spend money to make money. Those who dont spend money in order to make money, generally do not have the interests of their chosen field at heart, and and in it for the money only. The thousands of fans will get the VODS casted by selected casters from my understanding, which means that things are being done in a more business and less communal manner (sustainability). Although it is a bit sad to not have free easy access to every single game (I soooooooooooooooooo want to see the slog v qxc games, but probably never will). I can understand exactly the point of this, and am moving that way myself, providing VOD access instead of replay access. Eventually I think they will change their format so that more games are played/casted I think. Which then this discussion will probably never be remembered. Just right now they are packing so many games into 2 days that it makes it feel like we are missing out. | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On July 30 2011 20:09 FXOpen wrote: I appreciate your point of view, I really do. But one thing that I have always been a true believer in is, you have to spend money to make money. Those who dont spend money in order to make money, generally do not have the interests of their chosen field at heart, and and in it for the money only. The thousands of fans will get the VODS casted by selected casters from my understanding, which means that things are being done in a more business and less communal manner (sustainability). Although it is a bit sad to not have free easy access to every single game (I soooooooooooooooooo want to see the slog v qxc games, but probably never will). I can understand exactly the point of this, and am moving that way myself, providing VOD access instead of replay access. Eventually I think they will change their format so that more games are played/casted I think. Which then this discussion will probably never be remembered. Just right now they are packing so many games into 2 days that it makes it feel like we are missing out. I suppose you're right. MLG isnt the 'bad guy' for looking out for themselves, but I still feel (and this thread shows) that they'll lose at least some viewers and fans because of this. Availability of tournament replays was one of the advantages that sc2 had over BW, and now thats gone too. Hopefully TL/DH dont decide to do this too. On July 30 2011 20:07 Angry_Fetus wrote: If you're referring to the scenario where this is just a money grab, then that is irrelevant, as I'm addressing their reasoning. Thanks for coming out though, appreciate it. Its not that clear that you were addressing the reasoning, but thanks for clarifying, my mistake | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
Some of these games will be always better casted... | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On July 30 2011 20:21 FXOpen wrote: When they have a libarary of VODS they will win the viewers and fans back... Some of these games will be always better casted... Not if you want to learn from them. | ||
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StoRm_res
Switzerland891 Posts
And I feel like it's a waste of money if they wanna pay the casters to cast every single game played in the open bracket (we probably wont have the chance to see them )Anyway I dont like where this is going, because strategy wise you you miss so much if you watch a cast and don't look at the replay. God bless w3's waaghtv, those were great times, simultaniously listening to a cast but controlling the camera yourself, that was good stuff =) | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
You can learn from VODS..... Most of the pros learn from GSL Vods etc. Timing is there as there is the game clock, and usually the ingame camera is on everything significant.. Note the word "usually". Sometimes a bad cameraman can screw it up. But this is now the fork in the road for the industry, whether it becomes completely professional, or whether it continues to be "just fun". And I think MLG are taking the right steps in this sense. Although there are other things they probably should have focussed on first. | ||
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hjkim1304
Korea (South)105 Posts
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reki-
Netherlands327 Posts
All this "my replays me me me me" is making me sick | ||
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Toxi78
966 Posts
why don't they tell us the real reason behind this? | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
On July 30 2011 20:24 hjkim1304 wrote: Sorry but... Why?I actually agree with this decision o.O though im sad that i won't be able to see the replays On July 30 2011 20:32 reki- wrote: What? They're not selling the reps at all. I'm sure getting reps along with paying for the subscription thing would be reasonable...Alot of false entitlement in this thread sadly, MLG is hosting the tournament so they can do with the replays what they want, and if they decide to sell replays in the end you're not obligated to buy them either and you can boycot MLG by not watching the tournament All this "my replays me me me me" is making me sick | ||
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Not_That
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omgbambi
Sweden54 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
On July 30 2011 20:42 Not_That wrote: People want to see the replays. There is demand. Capitalize on it by giving people what they want, either for free, or the ability to purchase it. Nope, then someone will upload it for others after buying it. I guess they're going for the guaranteed money. | ||
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The Intensity
United Kingdom66 Posts
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