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DocSeverinsen
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany86 Posts
July 30 2011 10:10 GMT
#581
Sad News for me. I always liked watching the replays, especially since my slow internet doesnt allow me to watch streams.. sad day
No one leaves alive... hero stalker
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 30 2011 10:12 GMT
#582
On July 30 2011 19:05 nkwd wrote:
No replay => watch VOD => pay for membership+more pv/uv for the website.
Simple story, right?

Thats not it, they said they will be given to casters and made available for free anyway.

I am really disappointed, even if they switched to vods I would still be sad, its much harder to analyze a build order from a vod than it is from a replay, and I barely ever watch vods because they waste my bandwidth cap... I love looking at progamer replays for new builds, and MLG was the best source.

I sincerely hope they change their mind and release the replays after the event is finished.
Xanatoss
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany539 Posts
July 30 2011 10:14 GMT
#583
Yesterday I read the "[MLG] Pro Circuit: Anaheim - Giant Steps" Article. Today I see a giant step into the wrong direction.
I am very frustated about this decision and it takes a lot of the events value for me.
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss. MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see." You back slowly out of the booth. But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 10:22:30
July 30 2011 10:18 GMT
#584
calling bullshit/do not support on this. people who are trollish enough to take it to this level are persistent enough to find a replay of people from past MLG's, other events, or just randomly posted ladder games. THERE IS NOTHING MLG CAN DO TO STOP PEOPLE FROM GETTING REPS OF HIGH LEVEL PLAYERS. just nothing. it's not fucking possible.

prove it to me that you can't go on a sc2 replay site using known names listed on the MLG player list and find replays you could only find at MLG, and i would concede that this move makes any difference at all. if it can't be done at all or without incredible amounts of time spent, then all this does is make the tournament worse by a lot. A LOOOT

maybe in some cases it's different, but i pretty much feel about this, how i feel about DRM and piracy. you're making your legitimate supporters seriously pissed off for a protective measure that is incredibly fragile to a persistent, knowledgable person
m2e
Profile Joined April 2011
United States108 Posts
July 30 2011 10:20 GMT
#585
Why are we making a big deal about replays not being released by an event? GSL does not release replays (unless its a very special occasion) and i've never seen anyone make mention of it. Just because MLG used to do it and now doesn't anymore is an issue?

Be glad that they've released what they have, they had absolutely no obligation to release replays ever.
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
July 30 2011 10:22 GMT
#586
Step in the wrong direction. It sucks.

They should release them at least after MLG.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
July 30 2011 10:23 GMT
#587
On July 30 2011 19:20 m2e wrote:
Why are we making a big deal about replays not being released by an event? GSL does not release replays (unless its a very special occasion) and i've never seen anyone make mention of it. Just because MLG used to do it and now doesn't anymore is an issue?

Be glad that they've released what they have, they had absolutely no obligation to release replays ever.


I hope MLG will upgrade their VODs to some like GSL. Cuz now we cant watch specific games :<
I'm getting the derection.
Cripp
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany165 Posts
July 30 2011 10:28 GMT
#588
It's absolutely ok with GSL cause they are casting every single game. But at MLG, we are missing like a thousand games of the open bracket alone...
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 30 2011 10:32 GMT
#589
Theres a bunch of reasons why replays shouldn't be released. And FXO have also stopped releasing replays for these reasons.

1) Other people profiting from an event that someone else forks money out for ... Its unacceptable in business.
2) Players being uncomfortable having replays en mass handed out to the general public (small problem)

These are the two main reasons I see for not providing replays. But VODS should always be provided. And as the industry grows, the amount of 'free stuff' is going to disappear because of the costs involved.

I 100% support MLG in the non release of replays.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
July 30 2011 10:39 GMT
#590
[url blocked]

tod's replays from day 1.
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 30 2011 10:41 GMT
#591
On July 30 2011 19:39 Toxi78 wrote:
[url blocked]

tod's replays from day 1.

nice, MLG's so called "security" move already compromised
Raimu
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom79 Posts
July 30 2011 10:48 GMT
#592
So, have MLG just dodged the question about releasing replays after the event?
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 30 2011 10:50 GMT
#593
On July 30 2011 19:32 FXOpen wrote:
Theres a bunch of reasons why replays shouldn't be released. And FXO have also stopped releasing replays for these reasons.

1) Other people profiting from an event that someone else forks money out for ... Its unacceptable in business.
2) Players being uncomfortable having replays en mass handed out to the general public (small problem)

These are the two main reasons I see for not providing replays. But VODS should always be provided. And as the industry grows, the amount of 'free stuff' is going to disappear because of the costs involved.

I 100% support MLG in the non release of replays.

I'd agree with you except they don't broadcast 90% of their games, so they are not even prepared to showcase the product themselves, why should they care if someone wants to recast it? You don't see anyone complaining about gsl because you can get nice vods of every single game.

I am biased in this because I don't like vods and prefer replays due to my shitty australian internet, but atleast the GSL provides you with a means of accessing the content, this is essentially saying nobody will ever see a large number of the games played. Whats the point of a tournament if you can't watch the games? If they get someone to cast every single replay I'll eat my words, but somehow I doubt it will happen, thats a LOT of games.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
July 30 2011 10:50 GMT
#594
On July 30 2011 14:52 Oktyabr wrote:
Blizzard needs to insert a hotfix that allows players to go "YOU CAN'T SEE ME" mode such that any form of chat doesn't even filter through.

Like what many others have said before, trolls who are bent on doing this would probably brute force their way through all the possible char codes and still chat spam the players.

? What would this do?

/dnd already does pretty much everything you could ever want... ( If only they would add it to bnet 2.0 like their previous bnet 1.0 games had... chat commands were pretty cool back then...)
blocks all messages completely + you can't go back and read them either even if you wanted to

or they could just add "LAN" support for the game? also further reduces latency ( and no one could message them )
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 30 2011 10:51 GMT
#595
On July 30 2011 19:32 FXOpen wrote:

1) Other people profiting from an event that someone else forks money out for ... Its unacceptable in business.


Good idea, lets deny a service that fans dearly love, because it'd be awful if someone else made a couple of dollars. Yeah, lets fuck over thousands of fans instead, that 20$ that one commentator made from casting MLG replays on his youtube is RUINING ESPORTS
I normally have a lot of respect for you and whatever you post Boss but this is just...
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 30 2011 10:51 GMT
#596
On July 30 2011 19:50 Disquiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2011 19:32 FXOpen wrote:
Theres a bunch of reasons why replays shouldn't be released. And FXO have also stopped releasing replays for these reasons.

1) Other people profiting from an event that someone else forks money out for ... Its unacceptable in business.
2) Players being uncomfortable having replays en mass handed out to the general public (small problem)

These are the two main reasons I see for not providing replays. But VODS should always be provided. And as the industry grows, the amount of 'free stuff' is going to disappear because of the costs involved.

I 100% support MLG in the non release of replays.

I'd agree with you except they don't broadcast 90% of their games, so they are not even prepared to showcase the product themselves, why should they care if someone wants to recast it? You don't see anyone complaining about gsl because you can get nice vods of every single game.

I am biased in this because I don't like vods and prefer replays due to my shitty australian internet, but atleast the GSL provides you with a means of accessing the content, this is essentially saying nobody will ever see a large number of the games played. Whats the point of a tournament if you can't watch the games? If they get someone to cast every single replay I'll eat my words, but somehow I doubt it will happen, thats a LOT of games.



They should probably get the casters to cast the replays. Which it seems they are doing something similar so in the end the games will be seen... I think the actual top16 format is thething that needs to change.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
July 30 2011 10:51 GMT
#597
This makes me so sad, best part about MLG is checking out all the sick games that weren't broadcast.

Money money money
crojar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
July 30 2011 10:56 GMT
#598
I don't really care why they aren't releasing them. But this is enough for me to completely lose interest and I will not be buying a pass specifically because of this.
Angry_Fetus
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada444 Posts
July 30 2011 10:57 GMT
#599
This is an awful awful move. You're going to prevent people from getting access to high level replays which are in very high demand, making a large amount of your audience angry because you want to prevent some chat spam? Is this April 1st?
demonic_mortal
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
South Africa6 Posts
July 30 2011 10:57 GMT
#600
well that sucks
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