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Ganseng
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation473 Posts
July 26 2011 07:32 GMT
#661
i loved metalopolis and scrap station. very nice maps.
i'm glad to see delta quadrant be removed though. hated it. slag pits was also an ugly map.
we'll see how the new maps look like.
it seems silly that there is only one 2 players map (xel'naga) left in the 1v1 map pool.
BlackTactiks
Profile Joined May 2011
United States52 Posts
July 26 2011 07:33 GMT
#662
hey im down for change
Working Towards Greatness :)
QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
July 26 2011 07:33 GMT
#663
Will tournaments still use Meta afair bit?thoughts?
I bought a pack of cigarettes for $20, What have you done for your country today?
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
July 26 2011 07:40 GMT
#664
I think we all know the real reason blizzard removed meta. Meta has no rocks, therefore it must be removed!
Xaeldaren
Profile Joined June 2010
Ireland588 Posts
July 26 2011 07:41 GMT
#665
Anyone know when Season 3 will start for EU?
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
July 26 2011 07:43 GMT
#666
On July 26 2011 16:33 QuackPocketDuck wrote:
Will tournaments still use Meta afair bit?thoughts?


A huuuuuge number of tournaments are committed to using Meta. If it's in their pool for the current season of their league/tourney, they have to keep it. So we'll still see plenty of it in pro games.
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
July 26 2011 07:47 GMT
#667
i actually really like the new maps, they seem balanced
Let a man play chess, and tell him that every pawn is his friend. Let him think both bishops holy. Let him remember happy days in the shadows of his castles. Let him love his queen. Watch him lose them all.
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
July 26 2011 07:48 GMT
#668
I always hated metal... good riddance.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 26 2011 07:53 GMT
#669
oh shit. its as if they read my mind. removed all the maps i hate
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constantqt
Profile Joined July 2011
176 Posts
July 26 2011 07:54 GMT
#670
On July 26 2011 13:42 NExt wrote:
Ok the new maps.... are sooooooooooooooo cluttered..

Theres rocks, blockers, brushes, hills, elevations, more rocks. EVERYWHERE.

The only uncluttered map is Abyssal Caverns which is a horrible map.

Seriously. rocks, brushes, hills, eleveations, more rocks, its really hurts to play on. So much stuff on these maps!! Very fussy gaming

NOT ENOUGH ............. ROCKS
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
July 26 2011 07:55 GMT
#671
Oh my god yes yes yes.

Removing Scrap, Slag, and DQ. OMG Yes.

Now all they have to do is add some GSL maps, and we'll be dandy.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
IWANTHOTDOG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
July 26 2011 07:58 GMT
#672
On July 26 2011 16:55 mizU wrote:
Oh my god yes yes yes.

Removing Scrap, Slag, and DQ. OMG Yes.

Now all they have to do is add some GSL maps, and we'll be dandy.


You must be a sad panda then
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 26 2011 07:58 GMT
#673
They removed Meta? Thats stupid. It was the best map in the map pool.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 26 2011 07:58 GMT
#674
R.I.P Metalopolis, oh well im pretty sure we will see it in the Pro map pools of tournaments still. Cant wait to see the pros ladder with the new maps too.
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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
July 26 2011 07:59 GMT
#675
The only sad thing about this is the need to still use a veto on backwater gulch. Can't wait to see how the new maps work out in season 3 and how tournaments will adjust their map pools. The real problem in Sc2 now is the chaos in tournament maps.

I am not young enough to know everything.
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
July 26 2011 07:59 GMT
#676
It seems to me that the imbalances for Taldarim was probably over ever league and every player. While I don't fault blizz for doing this, I doubt that Z has a 60% w/l ratio on the map, nor do I think that Z had a 60% w/l ratio on metal.

I was assuming either metal or XNC were going to go this season and I wish that it was XNC. Metal cross positions was a great game, didn't have the advantage of close by air for Z and didn't have a rush distance that literally spanned the third base. The other 3 maps were my veto list, hopefully I won't have a problem with the new maps, but according to some other posters in this thread, it will prolly suck.

I wonder what it would take to be able to have an ICCUP ladder that you can get on instead of the Blizzard ladder... that would be awesome.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
July 26 2011 08:01 GMT
#677
Very good maps removal, love these changes. Hope these new maps and the new season will entertaining!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
July 26 2011 08:03 GMT
#678
I told people that Meta would go a long time ago....the reasoning is simple:

Blizz said that they only want 3 macro maps and consider Meta a macro-maps. They wouldn't remove tal'darim since it's the only map coming from the professional scene...they wouldn't remove shakuras either, since it has been reworked several times, which would have made the effort redundant. They wanted to introduce a new macro-map, therefore one had to go - Meta was the easy choice.

Nevertheless I really wanted to see Backwater Gulch go, oh well, at least with DQ and scrap station gone I have free thumb downs to use.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
TheRidd
Profile Joined January 2011
713 Posts
July 26 2011 08:06 GMT
#679
Delta Q and Scrap, buh bye :-h, god i hated those maps
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 08:13:41
July 26 2011 08:09 GMT
#680
While I'm not sad that Metal is gone, claiming it's zerg favored like they did is fucking bullshit though. Maybe it is on the ladder, where zerg players MMR is lower than it should be because of the other bullshit maps, and when playing on an actual balanced map the zerg players true skill is allowed to show.

TLPD, both Korean and International, which is based on an even higher level than whatever they think the highest levels are, says it's pretty damn balanced. And they usually play fixed versions that are even more 'zerg favored' which really means 'not extremely zerg punishing'.
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