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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
July 15 2011 12:16 GMT
#281
1. Completely missing the opportunity to build a SC2 team
2. Sign two major korean players after 12 months of SC2
3. Profit

I guess the move makes sense from heir perspective. But SKs SC2 career is certainly nothing to be proud of as an esports-company right now.

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
July 15 2011 12:18 GMT
#282
On July 15 2011 21:12 ineq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 21:08 careohx wrote:
Seriously guys whats so hard to understand about this?
SK signed 2 famous players with huge following so they can put their sponsors on them at international events. They gain a lot more exposure this way rather than trying to bring up new players. I think its a very smart business decision. E-Sports is also business first . If there is no money we wont have any competitions and the scene will die.


The majority of people watching every event apart from maybe MLG and Dreamhack will all be aware of what is going on, thus dragging the SK brand in the mud.

At the end of the day, i think SK would be much better off if they legitimately tried to make a team of their own instead of trying to cheat their way to success.


Considering that these international events have been won mostly by Koreans, I don't think any team they made would win much of anything. Even worse, I don't think I'll even know what players they have in their roster. I bet most people don't even know that hey had an SC2 team. ROFL.
Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
July 15 2011 12:19 GMT
#283
This reminds me of the European speedway scene. There the best riders in the world represents different clubs depending on if they drive in England, Sweden or Poland. While it earns the riders more money it makes the team spirit very lackluster, and a lot of the audience has gotten less and less interested, the drivers are being their for their own money, not to help their team.

While it being a necessary bad, it hurts the sport itself.

I hope that we wont see a lot of team jumping in in starcraft 2 and the teams can get some more money to work on their own teams image etc in the way they would like.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 12:24:10
July 15 2011 12:19 GMT
#284
On July 15 2011 21:08 careohx wrote:
Seriously guys whats so hard to understand about this?
SK signed 2 famous players with huge following so they can put their sponsors on them at international events. They gain a lot more exposure this way rather than trying to bring up new players. I think its a very smart business decision. E-Sports is also business first . If there is no money we wont have any competitions and the scene will die.


To have good long term sponsorships its not all about exposure - which is of course a necessity. People also need to like your team and identify with them, if they don't, the players are just walking advertising rostrums comparable to banner ads. Do you think many will buy SK gaming shirts with MC or Nada on them? I think everyone would prefer a oGs one.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 12:20:38
July 15 2011 12:19 GMT
#285
I'm a bit confused, isn't SK the same team whose SC2 division just disbanded a couple days ago? The team that only had Jimpo, Joe and one other guy on it? I dunno why they'd suddenly pick up two of the best SC2 players in the world, seeing as their SC2 team is nonexistent, I thought they'd just not show any interest in SC2 alltogether.
memes are a dish best served dank
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
July 15 2011 12:20 GMT
#286
Wow! Insane news!
Heathen
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines351 Posts
July 15 2011 12:21 GMT
#287
This is ridiculous, Just make a SC2 team SK.
dsll
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom143 Posts
July 15 2011 12:21 GMT
#288
SK.MC HUGE NEWS!
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
July 15 2011 12:22 GMT
#289
On July 15 2011 21:19 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 21:08 careohx wrote:
Seriously guys whats so hard to understand about this?
SK signed 2 famous players with huge following so they can put their sponsors on them at international events. They gain a lot more exposure this way rather than trying to bring up new players. I think its a very smart business decision. E-Sports is also business first . If there is no money we wont have any competitions and the scene will die.


.... Do you think anyone lots of people will buy SK gaming shirts with MC or Nada on them? I think everyone would prefer a oGs one.

very good point. it is all about identification.
keep it deep! @zulison
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 15 2011 12:24 GMT
#290
On July 15 2011 20:23 Blitz Beat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 20:18 Jiddra wrote:
On July 15 2011 20:15 nufcrulz wrote:
dont get the point of this, why can't SK go find their own teamless koreans to join their team? Doesn't oGs already have a partnership with TL anyway?


Apparently the TL/oGs partnership isn't that deep, when a confusing threewaylike this appears.



oGs-TL is a pragmatic relationship where they train and live together. oGs-SK is a business relationship where MC and NaDa are basically mercenaries. TL and SK are both offering something different to oGs and neither offers are conflicting. Its not like SK is forcing some players to live with oGs-TL at their team house nor is TL in any kind of (at least known) business relationship with oGs. Just think of it like - TLAF is to Team Liquid what SK is to MC/NaDa.

(no matter what sk says, they're just sponsoring oGs. no one believes for a second MC / NaDa are in the SK team.)



but then you look at the GSTL situation. GOM tell everyone that foreigners can play for any team they like but the only foreigners in the league, huk and jinro, make it clear that as part of the ogs-tl partnership they dont want to play for any other team. this is a business decision because for a lesser team huk and jinro could expect to play most weeks, promoting their team and sponsors, but for ogs they have so far just sat on the bench. liquid has taken a slight business hit for the personal relationships. ogs arent returning the favour.

its hardly a big deal but it just seems a bit bm
Fefe
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany11 Posts
July 15 2011 12:24 GMT
#291
That move is a bit strange, since oGs already has a partnership with TL and now there is SK coming in the picture probably as the team that can afford to send those two guys all around the world to compete. I hope this trend does not catch on though, cause if it does, we will have MVP/Complexity/Dignitas and IM/EG/Mouz or some strange fusions of clans...

greetings from germany
ineq
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden376 Posts
July 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#292
On July 15 2011 21:18 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 21:12 ineq wrote:
On July 15 2011 21:08 careohx wrote:
Seriously guys whats so hard to understand about this?
SK signed 2 famous players with huge following so they can put their sponsors on them at international events. They gain a lot more exposure this way rather than trying to bring up new players. I think its a very smart business decision. E-Sports is also business first . If there is no money we wont have any competitions and the scene will die.


The majority of people watching every event apart from maybe MLG and Dreamhack will all be aware of what is going on, thus dragging the SK brand in the mud.

At the end of the day, i think SK would be much better off if they legitimately tried to make a team of their own instead of trying to cheat their way to success.


Considering that these international events have been won mostly by Koreans, I don't think any team they made would win much of anything. Even worse, I don't think I'll even know what players they have in their roster. I bet most people don't even know that hey had an SC2 team. ROFL.


I'm assuming you did not read much of the thread. Your answer seems kind of.. strange..

Nothing of what you just said makes any difference when they get looked at like total a-holes for trying to get exposure the easiest and cheapest way possible. If anything, this is even worse than if they failed when trying to start a new team.

No one in their right frame of mind will ever consider MC and/or NaDa a part of SK-Gaming. It's like saying Tyler is playing for team Stride, just because they are his personal sponsor.
HerO - iNcontroL - DeMusliM - TaeJa - JaeDong
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
July 15 2011 12:26 GMT
#293
From reading playxp, it sounds like this is not a team sponsorship but rather individual sponsorships to Nada and MC. It doesn't look like oGs is getting paid from this deal, just that SK will provide logistics in tournaments that they choose. oGs is still responsible for the cost in other foriegn tournaments in which any of these two players are invited to participate (in other words, oGs could possibly have to pay their way in tourneys that SK has no interest).

I'm just curious how the player's schedule is going to work out. MC knows he cannot fall off the radar in GSL and will focus on getting back into the shape. Nada hasn't finished with his school and his schedule may not always work out for international tourneys. But mostly, how much of player ownership does SK have with these two players? This could possibly lead to an ugly lawsuit if the deal was half ass written and done.

Again, probably best to wait for more details to come out but it's always fun to speculate on things.
KryptoStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
England377 Posts
July 15 2011 12:27 GMT
#294
SK Gaming are an awesome organisation, and I allways wondered why they didn't have an Sc2 team, guess this is the start of it.
사랑해요
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 12:28:14
July 15 2011 12:27 GMT
#295
Looking forward to seeing oGsMC and oGsNada at more international events.

However they go about getting there.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 15 2011 12:28 GMT
#296
SK had the best counter strike team of all time. If you dont know that, you have missed out on some serious esports history.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 15 2011 12:29 GMT
#297
On July 15 2011 21:27 KryptoStorm wrote:
SK Gaming are an awesome organisation, and I allways wondered why they didn't have an Sc2 team, guess this is the start of it.


they did have an sc2 team. they sponsored a small time clan and expected them to suddenly dominate the scene, when that didnt happen they ditched them and start wondering how much money it costs to buy a korean.
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 15 2011 12:29 GMT
#298
Sooo, how does TL get a share out of this deal? oGs players are wearing TL logo+sticker on their outfit. And don't think SK will be happy with a TL logo on "their" players outfits.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Zion9
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Romania347 Posts
July 15 2011 12:29 GMT
#299
I mean really...sorry for my last sentence of this post it might be modded but at this moment i won't care. It surprised me that there were some people who did'nt hear about SK Gaming but hey that's it actually SK weren't that famous in the SC scene but in other games SK is a legend and therefore they are my all time favourite team no mather who they pick up.

And as about my last sentence:

HOLY FUCKIN SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SlayerS_MMA| Taeja | ThorZain and Naama Fan!!
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
July 15 2011 12:30 GMT
#300
Meh... Don't like this move either...
I mean, it's cool that we're gonna see more Nada and MC in foreign tournaments but that's not gonna make me support SK. I really don't give a shit about them and will continue cheering the players / oGs.
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