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Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 11:44:50
July 15 2011 11:43 GMT
#241
On July 15 2011 20:42 Dingobloo wrote:
On the other hand, it paints a picture in which no non-korean teams have any members they're just paying to have korean pros represent them, is that the future people want? Yuck.


They're paying to win, essentially.

On the other hand, now other foreign teams will have to recruit Koreans if they wish to compete. Which, in turn, will eventually result in there being no real foreign teams and no foreign scene? Who knows. :D
Shaoling
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 11:44:54
July 15 2011 11:44 GMT
#242
SK are stupid, people love teams who love and care for their players. SK just takes someone they think will do well, then they dont give them enough time. Kicks them out. and now they're "borrowing" players? its stupid. SK is doing sc2 completely wrong.
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 11:48:09
July 15 2011 11:45 GMT
#243
Altho from my experience SK Gaming are Allways late to pay their cash to their team members hotel/food tickets etc And this is most likely a desperate move to try Lift their Logo or whatever up.

They still had to pay money to CS 1.6 Teams back in the days and it took them 3-4years?

Would be bad if they treat those 2 the same way they treated most of their "team"

*Not trying to make them look bad but It seems they are like Bah our members sucks lets get some hard core koreans ow yeah that will be good , and then if they don't prove to be "Good" kick them lets hire some one else.
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Chodes
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 11:58:00
July 15 2011 11:45 GMT
#244
Wonder how much SK had to pay for NaDa and MC? i imagine would be as much as a team full of mediocre-good pro-gamers
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LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
July 15 2011 11:45 GMT
#245
will anyone actually regard them as SK players even at foreign events? What is SK doing, seriously, all i gather from this is "SK will be giving free airfares to oGs players"
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 15 2011 11:46 GMT
#246
Good deal for MC and Nada, but I don't see what SK is hoping to achieve with that move. Recruting mercenaries and not having their own lineup isn't doing any good for them. Anyway, the only thing I really care about in this is that we will see MC and Nada more at foreigner's events, and I will still think of them as part of oGs, not SK.
chokke
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway228 Posts
July 15 2011 11:47 GMT
#247
... And Jimpo?
Ahahaha :D
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
July 15 2011 11:47 GMT
#248
On July 15 2011 20:45 Chodes wrote:
Wonder how much SK had to pay for NaDa and MC? i imagine would be as mush as a team full of mediocre-good pro-gamers


Propably a huge amount, yes. That's what SK is basically about, investing money while looking for a great profit. They're not that much into real eSports anymore.
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KingHiram
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany21 Posts
July 15 2011 11:48 GMT
#249
I don#t like it. Rather than seeking out talents they just bought names. "hello we have da money who is best since he will join us harhar".

But i guess thats what professionalism means in the end. Sad thing for teams who actually invest in teamhouses and training to support their players on the road to the top instead of just buying the guys on the top.
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MFMulti
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden69 Posts
July 15 2011 11:49 GMT
#250
Holy Check! Incredible news!
glhf ♥
p0lyph0ny
Profile Joined July 2011
United States217 Posts
July 15 2011 11:49 GMT
#251
Nada, MC
I wish I was korean...
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 11:54:53
July 15 2011 11:52 GMT
#252
On July 15 2011 20:18 ineq wrote:
I don't see how people can like this? I mean as i said before, it's nothing but awesome for MC and NaDa. But not a single person is gonna consider these players "SK Pro's", they're still gonna be oGs players in everyone's minds. SK is sponsoring these players, they're not part of the SK team. It's like saying TLAF is a SC2 team, because they're paying the Liquid guys salary & expenses.

I can stretch as far as seeing it as SK loaning the players, which happens regularly in other sports.

Don't get me wrong, i love that players are getting money thrown at them from organizations. I just dislike that SK even consider MC & NaDa a part of their team. They're not gonna practice with other SK team members, they're in a teamhouse with another team, which they are also contracted to, thus all the credit should, and will go to oGs & TheWind. Not SK & TheSlaSh.

Long story short; SK is taking the easiest possible way to the most exposure possible.
Then again SK has not been a respectable organization in a long time. (we miss you bds)

Have to stress that MC & NaDa are not at all doing anything wrong here, why would they not take the offer? Even if they don't get another salary (which i would think they are) they're still getting trips paid to wherever they want to, that oGs might not have been able to afford.


Dont you see the whole picture this deal is worth A LOT for SK and both players, appearance of Nada or MC brings hundreads of people and they will go both. Its win-win situation for players/organisation/tournaments/viewer. Good move for Sk actually, Nada + MC are more valuable outside of Korea rather than playing korean events (ironically).
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peeeky
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada631 Posts
July 15 2011 11:52 GMT
#253
SK so smart to rent out players instead of putting in the work to foster good talent.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4729 Posts
July 15 2011 11:52 GMT
#254
already got to see alot of MC in foreign tourneys~
but now having NADA in foreign tourneys is fucking awesome! I can't wait :DD:D
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
TraneMason
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany17 Posts
July 15 2011 11:53 GMT
#255
TT1 won this thread.^^

Although that move came surprising, it actually makes sense considering the state esports is in, and what esports is becoming due to Starcraft 2.

If esports keeps growing, it will not be long until we wish SK Gaming back, I think. The same way as most of us wish the good old "Schroet Kommando" back. Teams and companies are turning into ruthless competitors, and that is not entirely a bad thing. I think it is great, because the quality of the sport will rise. On the other hand, the communities will suffer to some extent.

Partnerships like this are superficial, though yet important. That is a paradox that only occurs if a business turns into a business.
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Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
July 15 2011 11:54 GMT
#256
I'm extremely surprised to hear this, considering all the bad publicity SK has had in the past...

Part of me hopes that we will get to see NaDa at more events which I am able to attend in person, but most of me wonders how long it will take the players to feel jilted in this relationship. I just feel like SK is just jumping on the SC2 bandwagon because it is popular now. I'm hoping that when they realize the scene is actually very competitive, and that their players aren't insta-winning everything, that they won't just drop them like a hot stone... =0\
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 15 2011 11:54 GMT
#257
I have always cheered for the SK cs team back in the glory days, great news indeed. SK is big!
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dellesh1ruH
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark509 Posts
July 15 2011 11:54 GMT
#258
Wow! Really great news
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 11:56:48
July 15 2011 11:55 GMT
#259
On July 15 2011 20:46 Roggay wrote:
Good deal for MC and Nada, but I don't see what SK is hoping to achieve with that move. Recruting mercenaries and not having their own lineup isn't doing any good for them. Anyway, the only thing I really care about in this is that we will see MC and Nada more at foreigner's events, and I will still think of them as part of oGs, not SK.


Well, they'll probably end up paying 5-15k / year on travel expenses (not counting Reis). With that moeny, they maybe could've afforded a second tier european/na player (in the lines of idk, Stephano, Tod, Sase, etc) but absolutely not a first tier one - White-Ra, Nerchio, Thorzain and so on.

So they decided that if that's the only money they want to put in, might as well make this deal and tie some big names to the team.

It's embarrassing to list the players on their team roster (and oGs as ex-team), they're still screwing their image over, and I'm still baffled that they're not understanding that people will still consider them a sponsor at best, while NaDa and MC 100% oGs.

But at least I suppose this was the thought-process behind it.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
July 15 2011 11:57 GMT
#260
On July 15 2011 20:44 Shaoling wrote:
SK are stupid, people love teams who love and care for their players. SK just takes someone they think will do well, then they dont give them enough time. Kicks them out. and now they're "borrowing" players? its stupid. SK is doing sc2 completely wrong.


Well, that's like your opinion.
In every sport where money is involved, teams with plenty of mostly buy their team together, while the smaller teams have raise potential players.

There's nothing wrong with that.
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