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On July 15 2011 20:42 Dingobloo wrote:
On the other hand, it paints a picture in which no non-korean teams have any members they're just paying to have korean pros represent them, is that the future people want? Yuck.
They're paying to win, essentially.
On the other hand, now other foreign teams will have to recruit Koreans if they wish to compete. Which, in turn, will eventually result in there being no real foreign teams and no foreign scene? Who knows. :D
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SK are stupid, people love teams who love and care for their players. SK just takes someone they think will do well, then they dont give them enough time. Kicks them out. and now they're "borrowing" players? its stupid. SK is doing sc2 completely wrong.
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Altho from my experience SK Gaming are Allways late to pay their cash to their team members hotel/food tickets etc And this is most likely a desperate move to try Lift their Logo or whatever up.
They still had to pay money to CS 1.6 Teams back in the days and it took them 3-4years?
Would be bad if they treat those 2 the same way they treated most of their "team"
*Not trying to make them look bad but It seems they are like Bah our members sucks lets get some hard core koreans ow yeah that will be good , and then if they don't prove to be "Good" kick them lets hire some one else.
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Wonder how much SK had to pay for NaDa and MC? i imagine would be as much as a team full of mediocre-good pro-gamers
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will anyone actually regard them as SK players even at foreign events? What is SK doing, seriously, all i gather from this is "SK will be giving free airfares to oGs players"
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Good deal for MC and Nada, but I don't see what SK is hoping to achieve with that move. Recruting mercenaries and not having their own lineup isn't doing any good for them. Anyway, the only thing I really care about in this is that we will see MC and Nada more at foreigner's events, and I will still think of them as part of oGs, not SK.
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On July 15 2011 20:45 Chodes wrote:
Wonder how much SK had to pay for NaDa and MC? i imagine would be as mush as a team full of mediocre-good pro-gamers
Propably a huge amount, yes. That's what SK is basically about, investing money while looking for a great profit. They're not that much into real eSports anymore.
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I don#t like it. Rather than seeking out talents they just bought names. "hello we have da money who is best since he will join us harhar".
But i guess thats what professionalism means in the end. Sad thing for teams who actually invest in teamhouses and training to support their players on the road to the top instead of just buying the guys on the top.
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Holy Check! Incredible news!
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Nada, MC
I wish I was korean...
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On July 15 2011 20:18 ineq wrote:
I don't see how people can like this? I mean as i said before, it's nothing but awesome for MC and NaDa. But not a single person is gonna consider these players "SK Pro's", they're still gonna be oGs players in everyone's minds. SK is sponsoring these players, they're not part of the SK team. It's like saying TLAF is a SC2 team, because they're paying the Liquid guys salary & expenses.
I can stretch as far as seeing it as SK loaning the players, which happens regularly in other sports.
Don't get me wrong, i love that players are getting money thrown at them from organizations. I just dislike that SK even consider MC & NaDa a part of their team. They're not gonna practice with other SK team members, they're in a teamhouse with another team, which they are also contracted to, thus all the credit should, and will go to oGs & TheWind. Not SK & TheSlaSh.
Long story short; SK is taking the easiest possible way to the most exposure possible.
Then again SK has not been a respectable organization in a long time. (we miss you bds)
Have to stress that MC & NaDa are not at all doing anything wrong here, why would they not take the offer? Even if they don't get another salary (which i would think they are) they're still getting trips paid to wherever they want to, that oGs might not have been able to afford.
Dont you see the whole picture this deal is worth A LOT for SK and both players, appearance of Nada or MC brings hundreads of people and they will go both. Its win-win situation for players/organisation/tournaments/viewer. Good move for Sk actually, Nada + MC are more valuable outside of Korea rather than playing korean events (ironically).
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SK so smart to rent out players instead of putting in the work to foster good talent.
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already got to see alot of MC in foreign tourneys~
but now having NADA in foreign tourneys is fucking awesome! I can't wait :DD:D
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TT1 won this thread.^^
Although that move came surprising, it actually makes sense considering the state esports is in, and what esports is becoming due to Starcraft 2.
If esports keeps growing, it will not be long until we wish SK Gaming back, I think. The same way as most of us wish the good old "Schroet Kommando" back. Teams and companies are turning into ruthless competitors, and that is not entirely a bad thing. I think it is great, because the quality of the sport will rise. On the other hand, the communities will suffer to some extent.
Partnerships like this are superficial, though yet important. That is a paradox that only occurs if a business turns into a business. 
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I'm extremely surprised to hear this, considering all the bad publicity SK has had in the past...
Part of me hopes that we will get to see NaDa at more events which I am able to attend in person, but most of me wonders how long it will take the players to feel jilted in this relationship. I just feel like SK is just jumping on the SC2 bandwagon because it is popular now. I'm hoping that when they realize the scene is actually very competitive, and that their players aren't insta-winning everything, that they won't just drop them like a hot stone... =0\
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I have always cheered for the SK cs team back in the glory days, great news indeed. SK is big!
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On July 15 2011 20:46 Roggay wrote:
Good deal for MC and Nada, but I don't see what SK is hoping to achieve with that move. Recruting mercenaries and not having their own lineup isn't doing any good for them. Anyway, the only thing I really care about in this is that we will see MC and Nada more at foreigner's events, and I will still think of them as part of oGs, not SK.
Well, they'll probably end up paying 5-15k / year on travel expenses (not counting Reis). With that moeny, they maybe could've afforded a second tier european/na player (in the lines of idk, Stephano, Tod, Sase, etc) but absolutely not a first tier one - White-Ra, Nerchio, Thorzain and so on.
So they decided that if that's the only money they want to put in, might as well make this deal and tie some big names to the team.
It's embarrassing to list the players on their team roster (and oGs as ex-team), they're still screwing their image over, and I'm still baffled that they're not understanding that people will still consider them a sponsor at best, while NaDa and MC 100% oGs.
But at least I suppose this was the thought-process behind it.
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On July 15 2011 20:44 Shaoling wrote:
SK are stupid, people love teams who love and care for their players. SK just takes someone they think will do well, then they dont give them enough time. Kicks them out. and now they're "borrowing" players? its stupid. SK is doing sc2 completely wrong.
Well, that's like your opinion.
In every sport where money is involved, teams with plenty of mostly buy their team together, while the smaller teams have raise potential players.
There's nothing wrong with that.
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