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On July 15 2011 20:52 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 20:18 ineq wrote:
I don't see how people can like this? I mean as i said before, it's nothing but awesome for MC and NaDa. But not a single person is gonna consider these players "SK Pro's", they're still gonna be oGs players in everyone's minds. SK is sponsoring these players, they're not part of the SK team. It's like saying TLAF is a SC2 team, because they're paying the Liquid guys salary & expenses.
I can stretch as far as seeing it as SK loaning the players, which happens regularly in other sports.
Don't get me wrong, i love that players are getting money thrown at them from organizations. I just dislike that SK even consider MC & NaDa a part of their team. They're not gonna practice with other SK team members, they're in a teamhouse with another team, which they are also contracted to, thus all the credit should, and will go to oGs & TheWind. Not SK & TheSlaSh.
Long story short; SK is taking the easiest possible way to the most exposure possible.
Then again SK has not been a respectable organization in a long time. (we miss you bds)
Have to stress that MC & NaDa are not at all doing anything wrong here, why would they not take the offer? Even if they don't get another salary (which i would think they are) they're still getting trips paid to wherever they want to, that oGs might not have been able to afford. Dont you see the whole picture this deal is worth A LOT for SK and both players, appearance of Nada or MC brings hundreads of people and they will go both. Its win-win situation for players/organisation/tournaments/viewer. Good move.
I do see the whole picture. MC & NaDa will go to foreign events, which is great. SK will get no credit because these players are not really a part of their team. They are oGs-players.
Actually the more i think about it, the more i like it. I have not liked SK in years. Ever since the whole incident with the SK allstar CS-team back in '03. And this just pulls their name deeper down the drain, without hurting anyone but themselves. It is indeed a win-win! On second thought i really love it!
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ogsmc sounds way cooler than SK- MC though.
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On July 15 2011 20:55 n0ise wrote:
It's embarrassing to list the players on their team roster (and oGs as ex-team), they're still screwing their image over, and I'm still baffled that they're not understanding that people will still consider them a sponsor at best, while NaDa and MC 100% oGs.
But at least I suppose this was the thought-process behind it.
well to be fair the list SK-Gaming as former team as well... so looks more like stupid rather than malicious.
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Must not be a fanboy, must not be a fanboy, but... OMG IT'S NADA COMING TO ASSEMBLY!
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This is pretty interesting. I always thought that oGs had a lack of big name sponsors for a team that is one of the best in SC2. People may support oGs but they probably had no idea who the sponsors are and their sponsors might only be domestic. So I'm glad that MC and Nada are getting the type of international backing that oGs could not provide. As fans, SK will be able to provide us better player interviews, organize more fan-meeting sessions. MC and Nada will actually get a professional translator and they're no longer reliant on tournament organizers for their welfare in international tournaments. WeMadeFox had a manager for Moon at all times which oGs should have done. I remember reading comments by JulyZerg that the conditions they were put in were not ideal. But really, it isn't the job of the tournament organizers to accommodate them, it should be the team's responsibility.
Not really sure whether it is a good move for SK. If international events do grow bigger than the GSL and if the GSL starts holding more events outside of Korea like at Blizzcon, we will see MC and Nada wearing SK uniforms sans any oGs logo more often. So it might not be that bad.
As far as I'm concerned, if SK can provide better support and welfare to Nada and MC better than oGs could, I consider them SK players instead of oGs players cause they would be the organization that is putting in all the effort for these players.
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On July 15 2011 21:00 Lithian wrote:
Must not be a fanboy, must not be a fanboy, but... OMG IT'S NADA COMING TO ASSEMBLY!
Sadly this has not been brought to much light due to the fact that SK-Gaming are stupid, but oh my lord, yes! NaDa is coming!
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Idk about this, feels like SK is a sponsor for oGs. Paying these two players to participate in foreign events to market their brand (SK).
I dont rly consider Nada and MC to be a part of the SK roster. More like if Nvidia decided to sponsor oGs to send players and in return they get their brand printed on the T-shirt....
Good move from oGs part, bad move by SK. Would prefer if they got their own team
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How come I dont read "In non-Korean tournament they will have an oGs patch on the SK uniform"? This sounds abit lopsided
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In other words, MC is gonna be at every big foreign event?
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woohoo this is awesome! I'm a huge fan of all the oGs players and I've always liked SK gaming as well.
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Really good for MC and Nada who get free tickets to go rape some foreigners and bring back the money. Almost sure it is also an additional stream of money for oGs, which is good.
The worse off the deal is SK: do they really think we will believe MC and Nada are part of the "SK" SC2 team????They are oGs.
How I see it, it is even making SK looks like idiot, not being able to recruit and train new talents to make a name on their own.
Good for oGs, good for viewers who get to see more MC and Nada, not sure it is that good for SK
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On July 15 2011 20:55 n0ise wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 20:46 Roggay wrote:
Good deal for MC and Nada, but I don't see what SK is hoping to achieve with that move. Recruting mercenaries and not having their own lineup isn't doing any good for them. Anyway, the only thing I really care about in this is that we will see MC and Nada more at foreigner's events, and I will still think of them as part of oGs, not SK. Well, they'll probably end up paying 5-15k / year on travel expenses (not counting Reis). With that moeny, they maybe could've afforded a second tier european/na player (in the lines of idk, Stephano, Tod, Sase, etc) but absolutely not a first tier one - White-Ra, Nerchio, Thorzain and so on. So they decided that if that's the only money they want to put in, might as well make this deal and tie some big names to the team. It's embarrassing to list the players on their team (and oGs as ex-team), they're still screwing their image over, and I'm still baffled that they're not understanding that people will still consider them a sponsor at best, while NaDa and MC 100% oGs. But at least I suppose this was the thought-process behind it.
They understand it perfectely i imagine, SK move is brilliant in cost efficiency, SK was never affiliated with SC brand, even after SC2 came out many people didnt know who Jimpo was. So their primary target is recognition by non SC2 fans, and SC2 nowadays is hot product. They will send Nada/MC to every big foreign tournament and many people will be hyped to see koreans (probably many non sc2 viewers will be interested), and what they see ? Koreans in SK jerseys, thought process will be simple : oh THAT Sk (which had for few years always the best CS team) is having even top koreans so that HAS to be imbaimba good organisation. All that for low price ( i guess).
SC2 is business today, everyone is milking the cow while it last, even players individually(idra destiny, tyler, and 30 others). Cant blame them.
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lol, first thought SK was for South Korea and Nada and MC were gonna play on the national team or something
Excellent, we'll see more MC and Nada around, always a good thing
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That's so weird/cheap/ugly(?) to see a prestigious team like SK being brought down to "borrowing" players in order to shine a little bit during international events.
I know it's huge, but i would like to see SK acquiring and developping a real line up, forming upcoming stars and get a nice return on investment, make themself a name on SC² in a "righteous" way. Just my point.
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Seriously guys whats so hard to understand about this?
SK signed 2 famous players with huge following so they can put their sponsors on them at international events. They gain a lot more exposure this way rather than trying to bring up new players. I think its a very smart business decision. E-Sports is also business first . If there is no money we wont have any competitions and the scene will die.
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On July 15 2011 21:08 careohx wrote:
Seriously guys whats so hard to understand about this?
SK signed 2 famous players with huge following so they can put their sponsors on them at international events. They gain a lot more exposure this way rather than trying to bring up new players. I think its a very smart business decision. E-Sports is also business first . If there is no money we wont have any competitions and the scene will die.
The majority of people watching every event apart from maybe MLG and Dreamhack will all be aware of what is going on, thus dragging the SK brand in the mud.
At the end of the day, i think SK would be much better off if they legitimately tried to make a team of their own instead of trying to cheat their way to success.
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On July 15 2011 21:08 careohx wrote:
Seriously guys whats so hard to understand about this?
SK signed 2 famous players with huge following so they can put their sponsors on them at international events. They gain a lot more exposure this way rather than trying to bring up new players. I think its a very smart business decision. E-Sports is also business first . If there is no money we wont have any competitions and the scene will die.
Well it will work only with newbies, and even then as soon as they go " MC is SK" someone will smash their face and say " No son, MC is oGs, SK is just paying him to wear this jersey, like a little whore". And now SK doesnt look that good :D Coz SC2, while gaining exposure, is still relatively a connaisseur market...
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This is seriously stupid, SK should get their own team.
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On July 15 2011 18:55 Animostas wrote:
Really kind of weird in my opinion, I don't really see why MC and Nada can't just play as oGs members.
I don't know if SK Gaming is really renowned as a Starcraft II team so it just feels kind of off to have two of the best players in the world representing them all of a sudden.
Because they have had top teams in every other game and are extremely wealthy
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On July 15 2011 21:08 Dexs wrote:
That's so weird/cheap/ugly(?) to see a prestigious team like SK being brought down to "borrowing" players in order to shine a little bit during international events.
I know it's huge, but i would like to see SK acquiring and developping a real line up, forming upcoming stars and get a nice return on investment, make themself a name on SC² in a "righteous" way. Just my point.
^^ this
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