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Baerinho
Germany257 Posts
Like they play for Bayern Munich in the domestic league, have a joinend team of Bayern and Borussia Dortmund play int he domestic Cup, but when it comes to championsleague, they play for Barcelona... Just feels weird, wrong to me, even tho i think it might be something positive | ||
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:42 Kolapz wrote: Haters gonna hate. None of you have any idea how the deal will work out, yet you feel entitled to comment on it in a negative way. Especially this ineq guy that's just spouting ignorant nonsense for whatever reason. I generally don't like ignorant hate towards anything, but after seeing what you (SK) have done to some of my absolute favorite players from back in the day, and on top of that making a deal with oGs, that to the public looks really stupid, i can't really do anything but criticize what is going on. If you don't want the hate, explain yourselves, any rational beeing will se that the information provided to the public looks like a cheap way to exposure. | ||
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monx
Canada1400 Posts
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HuskyGoalie
Germany42 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:44 ineq wrote: The only way i see it possible for SK to have honored their contracts and paying salaries is if HeatoN, Potti & Tentpole are all a bunch of liars, who have publicly stated that they're still owed money. It may be possible, but i find it unlikely. I can't judge the HeatoN/Potti thingy as I wasn't in SK back then and don't really know about it, but after seeing the Gux and Delpan story I sometimes doubt that some counter-strike players have ever read their contracts. Just my honest thoughts though. I'm just a person that doesn't like if people talk about something they don't really know about. Don't take it personal! It counts for the oGs/SK deal as well.  | ||
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:26 jellyjello wrote: From reading playxp, it sounds like this is not a team sponsorship but rather individual sponsorships to Nada and MC. It doesn't look like oGs is getting paid from this deal, just that SK will provide logistics in tournaments that they choose. oGs is still responsible for the cost in other foriegn tournaments in which any of these two players are invited to participate (in other words, oGs could possibly have to pay their way in tourneys that SK has no interest). I'm just curious how the player's schedule is going to work out. MC knows he cannot fall off the radar in GSL and will focus on getting back into the shape. Nada hasn't finished with his school and his schedule may not always work out for international tourneys. But mostly, how much of player ownership does SK have with these two players? This could possibly lead to an ugly lawsuit if the deal was half ass written and done. Again, probably best to wait for more details to come out but it's always fun to speculate on things. If this is true the whole deal only gets more bizzare. oGs must be involved, or they have a very weak contract with their players. I can't belive that Koreans winning outside of Korea is something totally ignored in Korea, so oGs and their sponsors are loosing some exposure that SK must compensate for. If this is a pure sponsor deal, with a added SK logo on the oGs shirt, I don't see where SK and their sponsors are getting their ROI. In the press release it sounds like MC and Nada will be wearing SK outfits outside of Korea. I guess it is up to Jinro to represent the oGs jacket outside of Korea now. | ||
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:50 HuskyGoalie wrote: I can't judge the HeatoN/Potti thingy as I wasn't in SK back then and don't really know about it, but after seeing the Gux and Delpan story I sometimes doubt that some counter-strike players have ever read their contracts. Just my honest thoughts though. I'm just a person that doesn't like if people talk about something they don't really know about. Don't take it personal! It counts for the oGs/SK deal as well. While it could very well happen that wrong turns were made by the players aswell, i feel like SK has a responsibility as a big organization to explain themselves in these kind of situations. If not, then they better be ready to take the heat coming their way. I'm no taking it personally at all, and i understand that you would want to side with SK if you really have gotten your salaries/prize money or whatever it may be according to the contract. | ||
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Dariusz
Poland657 Posts
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HuskyGoalie
Germany42 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:53 ineq wrote: While it could very well happen that wrong turns were made by the players aswell, i feel like SK has a responsibility as a big organization to explain themselves in these kind of situations. If not, then they better be ready to take the heat coming their way. I'm no taking it personally at all, and i understand that you would want to side with SK if you really have gotten your salaries/prize money or whatever it may be according to the contract. I agree to the explanation thing. That could have been better indeed, but that's something I am not responsible for. As far as I have experienced SK has been the best organisation for me. It's hard to get accepted in eSports as a racing game player, but SK has helped and fully supports it. And I think MC and NaDa are the last players you wanna ever fool. Therefore I expect that they will get all the support they need and I hope that I can have the chance to meet them at Gamescom as my teammates. | ||
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Krogan
Sweden375 Posts
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Tiazi
Netherlands761 Posts
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Flwz
Ireland19 Posts
I think SK should have sponsored an already existing team (if Korea if they so desired) or anywhere else and renamed them to SK, as Complexity did (twice). | ||
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Jonas :)
United States511 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
On July 15 2011 22:04 Krogan wrote: Kind of wondering if this might end up with oGs being renamed SK in the long run, SK is to the CS community what TL is to the SC2 community and its a big time company. if you talk about teams, this may be true. But if you talk about websites the CS-equivalent to TL would be hltv.org. | ||
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ineq
Sweden376 Posts
On July 15 2011 22:03 HuskyGoalie wrote: I agree to the explanation thing. That could have been better indeed, but that's something I am not responsible for. As far as I have experienced SK has been the best organisation for me. It's hard to get accepted in eSports as a racing game player, but SK has helped and fully supports it. And I think MC and NaDa are the last players you wanna ever fool. Therefore I expect that they will get all the support they need and I hope that I can have the chance to meet them at Gamescom as my teammates. I do not at all think that they will try to fool MC and NaDa, that would require some real BALLS, to say the least. I'm just very critical about this whole deal, as the information provided says nothing but cutting corners. It could be good for buisness, im not sure. But it definately wont sit well with the community. edit; I would honestly much rather see them snatching players from other organizations, than doing this kind of thing. If they take players from others, i atleast feel that they have a right to call them their players. I would love for someone from SK-Gaming to come here, or anywhere and explain why this makes them a part of the SK-Gaming roster, and not just a personal financial sponsorship, similar to what TLO, Tyler & KiWiKaKi got from the MLG sponsors. I for one respect Racing gamers, as i've played racing games on consoles all my life, and i appreciate the difficulty. Kudos to you sir for beeing as good as you are. | ||
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King of Kings
Germany481 Posts
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krisss
Luxembourg305 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:53 ineq wrote: While it could very well happen that wrong turns were made by the players aswell, i feel like SK has a responsibility as a big organization to explain themselves in these kind of situations. If not, then they better be ready to take the heat coming their way. I'm no taking it personally at all, and i understand that you would want to side with SK if you really have gotten your salaries/prize money or whatever it may be according to the contract. You seem like a person whos bringing up undigested stuff everytime you see ur ex girlfriends?  IMHO if u want an explanation from them, just ask them, this here is not the right place to expect something like this.. I mean SK surely did not hire Nada and MC to NOT fullful their contract and get bad RP. So we could just skip those stale news, and discuss about the Nada MC thing. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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pStar
996 Posts
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forSeohyun
504 Posts
On July 15 2011 22:06 Jonas wrote:As a big fan of everything oGs, I don't really get it? MC and Nada could both already participate in as many tournaments outside of korea as they cared to join, but now when they win said tournaments some random ass other team gets the credit for their win even though oGs is providing these players with training facilities, practice partners, and coaching? Bullshit There is such a thing as costs of flights to and from foreign tournaments, accomodations at the events themselves, translators, guides and a thousand other possible expenses or problems that needs to be addressed. So, in my view, if the SK-gaming deal makes for that NaDa and MC can attend more foreign tournaments and have less trouble doing so, it is a good and much needed thing. How is this a bad thing!? | ||
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Dumboprime
985 Posts
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