An NASL Retrospective With EG.iNcontroL - Page 33

On July 17 2011 00:02 Carnagath wrote:
Both TB and Incontrol annoy me, honestly.

Boo-bloody-hoo, poor TB, so unfairly trashed by iNc, when he has said so much about both iNc and Idra in the recent past, even going so far as to create whole Reddit threads about what terrible shitty casters they both are. Well, what did you expect, of course iNc is going to take jabs at him every chance he gets. TB, for such a recent addition to the SC community, certainly wasted no time in attempting to enthrone himself as an almighty drama king and flame veterans all over. He really should stfu and produce more content, he is in no position yet to speak against anyone.

As for iNc, he is a clever guy, he explores every opportunity that he can in order to live off E-Sports, and that's fine, that's the dream, but Sporrer (which was obviously suggested by him, directly or indirectly, even though he doesn't admit it, but he's not fooling anyone) was the final straw, I'm tired of seeing his girlfriend, his gilfriend's friends and his general social circle being pushed into anything he dabbles in. There are many talented, enthusiastic, knowledgeable people in the scene that never get a chance to show their stuff because every position of wide broadcast has been capped by the iNc brigade. Enough is enough. I'm glad to see him practicing full time again, because that means less of his fellowship on air. He is so sly and mercilessly efficient with his connections that it ends up, in my opinion, hurting the scene. At least Anna cares enough to at least attempt to educate herself on the subject, which is commendable, but still sigh-worthy. Sporrer though? Just no. Go away.

On July 17 2011 00:48 GoStyle wrote:
EVERY pro gamer came to sc2 for the money... the game is NEW! ur trying to say u came here for any other reason? You prefer the game over sc1? You havnt spent time on podcasts discussing what could be made better in the game? If the actual game was better than your original game (sc1 for u) then thats a reason to change but its not.. you came here to try and get money (streams and various other projects uv taken on). Your just as new to this game as TB is, just because u have sc1 experience doesnt give you any kind of right over anyone else.

Fact of the matter is, once u do drop all of your other commiments and "focus on gaming", everyone will be able to see how average AT BEST you are then your name will slip into oblivion. Only reason your so well known atm is through your personality, not your performance.

Iv only seen the game VODS as i heard coverage (especially on day 1) was shocking so i havnt had a chance to see the girl interview people but even when your GF (i saw her interview 1-2 times) was interviewing it was cringe worthy, nevermind this new girl who CLEARLY is in it for the money only...

Total douche move to deflect the negative comments directed at that girl to TB... zero reason to name drop that guy who has done a lot more for sc2 than yourself. No reason to name drop anyone at all. I thought you were a funny guy before this but now im looking forward to watching you fail.

and for the record im not a TB fan in the slightest (for his style of casts) but atleast give the man some respect, he has and does do a lot for esports

On July 17 2011 01:03 Match wrote:
I really liked the NASL. Day 1 of the finals was as shaky as week 1, but after that the only thing that happened was lots of awesome Starcraft, and I loved it.

On July 17 2011 00:58 iNcontroL wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I didn't have anything to do with hiring sporrer or any of the other girls... save for Anna.

Call me biased that we hired a professional interview coach and a girl who has been involved/around SC/SC2 since before 99% of you ever came to this community. She is only going to get more involved btw so keep the "inc hired her" shit away. She is doing this on her own merit.

I'll skip over the extremely negative tone of this post... (wanting someone to fail?.... really?) But I do want to reiterate the point that there is a difference between "doing something for money" and "wanting to make the best living possible doing what you love". Love or hate InControl.... I doubt he's rolling in riches with SC2. He could go be an engineer or likely even middle-management somewhere and make the same amount of money for less work. He clearly loves competing in eSports and he loves Starcraft..... so coming to Starcraft 2 (the new frontier of eSports) only makes sense.

I hope people can see the difference..... because accusing the personalities in the community about "doing it only for money" is not helping anyone.

On July 17 2011 00:17 baldgye wrote:
It's a shame that so many people want to quickly try and sensationalise everything and in the process ignooring context and in some people's cases what was actually said.

That said being a total sc1 nub prior to NASL I didn't really know much at all about incontrol, but he has grown to be one of my fav players and personalities in the sc community. It's sad to see the hate and idiocy in this thread, but thanks incontrol you made the nasl fun to watch and have given alot of insite into how these things are put together!

<3

On July 17 2011 01:33 GoStyle wrote:


Firsly the negative tone was intended

I never said he is doing it for a lot of money... he is here for the money though like everyone else. If it was for the competition then he would of went "hardcore" sooner and not bothered with the distractions that streaming, casting and other such projects offer. He is after a quick buck if it can be made as well as the next guy. Also sc1 is a lot harder and a lot more competative so if it was purely about competition then he has clearly taken a backward step.

In regard to the i hope he fails comments, that was OTT but the guys a douche. RTs gaming should be his bread and butter so time will only tell. Will be interesting to see if he gets seeded quite as high when he is out of the spotlight for a while. Then we will be able to see how good he is

Figured the negativity was intended, you clearly feel strongly about your views (fair enough), but the negativity is just giving people a chance to fan the flames instead of look at the real issues brought up in the thread.

You have a good point about the SC1 scene... but I think the issue is more complex than what is obvious. The SC1 scene in Korea is established... in terms of teams/training/pros and audience. The same cannot be said for the SC1 scene "abroad". SC2 hit the shelves and nostalgia across the "foreign" nations for SC1 rose... and immediately the fragments of the eSports foreign scene were able to bring their existence into a much broader light. It's SC2 that is growing the scene in nations outside of Korea (at least in my view... I never even knew that SC1 had a proscene... but was brought into the SC2 scene quite quickly). So for a foreign pro to enter the new frontier of SC2.... I think it's really about fostering a better environment for foreign eSports and striking while the hammer is hot, and excitement about a new game is high.

On July 17 2011 01:59 GoStyle wrote:


Ye i agree its about striking while the iron is hot and the excitement around the new game but he is first and foremost a player.. so surely his priority would be establish a name for himself for being a player (winning things) and not all of these other ventures. <----if it was about the game, competition and striking "whilst its hot" as a player.

On July 17 2011 02:22 Xiphiass wrote:
Haha, him trying to row back on the things he said is hilarious. For future reference, an apology would be easier to make and wouldn't take 17 posts in this thread. Perhaps not blaming the community and calling everyone "DUMB FUCKS" would help, too.

This certainly doesn't improve his image in the eyes of everyone.

On July 17 2011 01:30 romanov wrote:
@Incontrol

I think people are most offended because you respect TB (Someone who do's a lot for the community besides ofcourse making a living out of SC/and other games) less then 'A blond bimbo' (Lack of interest in the community and bad overall gameknowledge). This just looks like a small personal stab at TB.

On July 17 2011 03:33 Dental Floss wrote:


A blond bimbo? Jesus Christ; the misogyny in this thread is ridiculous. I think I figured out why people are mad at Incontrol; he said that he respected a woman. This is clearly unacceptable to the community.