EPTAn NASL Retrospective With EG.iNcontroL - Page 27
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Xanwi
United Kingdom114 Posts
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Xanwi
United Kingdom114 Posts
On July 16 2011 08:29 Coolwhip wrote: Incontrol, the mediocre player that flamebates on TL forums then acts all surprised when people bite. Talking down on TB is ridiculous too. People like TB and Take actually put their own money into SC2. Which takes a lot more guts than to just show your face everywhere and then claim you help ESPORTZZ. I know man, Inc seems to walk around like he owns the place, when in fact he's probably the single most overrated SC2 player on the planet. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On July 16 2011 08:15 GumThief wrote: And without organizers of tournaments, sponsors, team owners.. Whats left? What's left is the broodwar scene in anywhere but Korea :p Virtually nonexistent. Players would still play the game if they loved it, sure.. But the exposure just wouldn't be there. The sponsors and teams would vanish, and the quality of players in NA and Europe would fall as drastically fast as it did in BW. And how would it be stupid to cast or play for money even if they hate the game...? :p Don't quite follow. Hey here's 1,000 cash in pocket, all expense paid trip to cast a game in Sweden. You down? "Oh no no, my heart is not into it. I'd much rather you keep the money or give it to a more deserving soul." Seriously? :p I don't wake up every morning with a fucking smile on my face so excited to get to work usually. And i don't give a crap if they do either. Just produce!! What you're talking about here, real or not is just a bonus that would be given to no one but someone who is already very established in the scene. You need countless of hours getting to that point, and those hours would be better used towards more rewarding activities if you don't like/love the game. That's why it would be stupid. You have a point in your last sentence, except that I believe most players/casters would get more money from a different "job". If they were moneydriven they would go for that. I may be wrong but it doesn't really matter. | ||
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Robonord
United States311 Posts
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
 . Incontrol, the mediocre player that flamebates on TL forums then acts all surprised when people bite. Talking down on TB is ridiculous too. People like TB and Take actually put their own money into SC2. Which takes a lot more guts than to just show your face everywhere and then claim you help ESPORTZZ. While I'm not going to claim "Incontrol #1 Protoss NA" or something silly, he's not exactly some guy who just goes around yelling "ESPORTS" while doing nothing. He's dedicated like a decade of his life to Starcraft, and has consistently been one of the most active community members on TL, both in posting and in doing other things. I don't know how much of his actual bank account he has put into Starcraft, but given the whole "time = money" concept, he's put in a lot more money than either Take or TB have. On July 16 2011 08:42 Robonord wrote: I honestly do not understand how Incontrol has any fans when he acts like this. He has fans because some people appreciate people who don't act super PC all the time, and Incontrol brings personality to SC2. It's why Idra has one of the largest fanbases around (no, not everyone who follows him just likes seeing him rage). | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On July 16 2011 08:38 Xanarial wrote: I know man, Inc seems to walk around like he owns the place, when in fact he's probably the single most overrated SC2 player on the planet. I dunno if he's overrated, does anyone actually think he's any good? | ||
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GumThief
Canada284 Posts
On July 16 2011 08:41 TheBanana wrote: What you're talking about here, real or not is just a bonus that would be given to no one but someone who is already very established in the scene. You need countless of hours getting to that point, and those hours would be better used towards more rewarding activities if you don't like/love the game. That's why it would be stupid. You have a point in your last sentence, except that I believe most players/casters would get more money from a different "job". If they were moneydriven they would go for that. I may be wrong but it doesn't really matter. Ah I see what you are saying. time spent VS potential profit just isn't there to endure something you hate ~_~ eheh. GG!!! wp  | ||
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Tyrgrim
Sweden83 Posts
On July 16 2011 08:03 iNcontroL wrote: WE ARE SO MAD!!!!!!!! lol did people even read my comments in this thread? Name dropping was dumb and bad. But 20+ pages with a bunch of random posters trying to act like this shit is important is hilarious. I love all the personal attacks btw against me.,.. it's from people upset that I apparently did a personal attack on TB. Then they call ME the hypocrite LOLDont lump every single person who has commented "against" you in this thread into 1 pile. Some call you a hypocrite, some insult you, some question your evidence regarding this accusatory statement, and some are just merely curious as to what exactly you meant. It might be easy to view everyone as a single entity, "the haters", but that would not be correct. Oh and it's 20+ pages not because there's a heated, dramafilled debate regarding what you said. Just individuals adding their thoughts to it. Noone is saying this shit is super important or anything of the sorts, but are only important things allowed to be discussed? Can we only write something when it is very important? Is that how you reached your 27k+ posts? People saw something being said they perceived as incorrect and hypocritical, so they spoke up against it. Nothing wrong with that, if you except the douchebags who felt the need to insult you. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
On July 16 2011 02:21 iNcontroL wrote: eh? Was late night skype interview where I was amidst 3 other eg's practicing etc.. just gave my thoughts. Well, maybe "hilariously careful" is a little inaccurate, then. Your english major is showing, I guess (represent). You're eloquent enough that you can sound like a walking prepared statement. I DO appreciate your thoughts, however. I wonder if you're living proof of why SC2 pros have tended to pull back more into obscurity, being less involved in the public scene -- they see how careful and honest you try to be and yet you get tons of crap for it. I guess when I said "hilariously careful" I meant that when I read your interviews / listen to you on shows, I can almost see the tightrope you're walking. And yet this restraint does little/no good, because as soon as you use a specific example the drama begins. I have noticed that you've mentioned several times how little Tyler practices when nobody else says anything about it. The reason people think you're worth listening to is the fact you're willing to state your opinions on specific issues/people; that's also the reason that people think you're worth raging about. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I am reluctant but it truly is stupid that I post here.giant flash mobs of anger / band wagon shit. eventually all the progamers will avoid interacting with the public and people will probably barely notice but it will be sad... count the progamers that post here now | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
The reason people think you're worth listening to is the fact you're willing to state your opinions on specific issues/people; that's also the reason that people think you're worth raging about Tyler doesn't practice enough. True Statement. Nobody gets mad. TB is in SC2 for the money. Not True Statement. Shitstorm ensues. It has nothing to do with speaking openly and everything to do with the truth behind what is actually being said. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On July 16 2011 09:39 iNcontroL wrote: it's true.. in general tl is spoken as a place we (progamers) NEED to avoid I am reluctant but it truly is stupid that I post here.giant flash mobs of anger / band wagon shit. eventually all the progamers will avoid interacting with the public and people will probably barely notice but it will be sad... count the progamers that post here now Still no response to valid posts and more vague threats of the forums being ruined due to a decrease in progamer interaction. Classic. | ||
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nicotn
Netherlands186 Posts
On July 16 2011 09:39 iNcontroL wrote: it's true.. in general tl is spoken as a place we (progamers) NEED to avoid I am reluctant but it truly is stupid that I post here.giant flash mobs of anger / band wagon shit. eventually all the progamers will avoid interacting with the public and people will probably barely notice but it will be sad... count the progamers that post here now sure geoff | ||
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TooN
1046 Posts
On July 16 2011 09:39 iNcontroL wrote: it's true.. in general tl is spoken as a place we (progamers) NEED to avoid I am reluctant but it truly is stupid that I post here.giant flash mobs of anger / band wagon shit. eventually all the progamers will avoid interacting with the public and people will probably barely notice but it will be sad... count the progamers that post here now ?? Well if progamers say the logical thing and can debate what they say, then I don't see a problem with it. Ive seen TT1, jinro , FXO guys, and other gamers post fine on TL. You seem to get the most backlash. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On July 16 2011 08:43 Insane wrote: I'm not sure why people are acting like what he said about TB makes it a bad interview (you can disagree vehemently with someone on something and it doesn't mean the interview is bad). If anything, it's refreshing to hear someone actually express their opinion without dancing around acting super PC about everything. If anything, the shitstorm that resulted from it is going to result in people being less open about it . While I'm not going to claim "Incontrol #1 Protoss NA" or something silly, he's not exactly some guy who just goes around yelling "ESPORTS" while doing nothing. He's dedicated like a decade of his life to Starcraft, and has consistently been one of the most active community members on TL, both in posting and in doing other things. I don't know how much of his actual bank account he has put into Starcraft, but given the whole "time = money" concept, he's put in a lot more money than either Take or TB have. He has fans because some people appreciate people who don't act super PC all the time, and Incontrol brings personality to SC2. It's why Idra has one of the largest fanbases around (no, not everyone who follows him just likes seeing him rage). Right.. randomly insulting people out of nowhere equals "personality"............. | ||
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Dental Floss
United States1015 Posts
This is just sad. This community has fallen a long way since the Broodwar days. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On July 16 2011 09:50 Dental Floss wrote: Man... there used to be a time when people respected progamers. This is just sad. This community has fallen a long way since the Broodwar days. People still respect the progamers who deserve it............... | ||
NonY
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Shameless
Netherlands349 Posts
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Asuhrie
United States4 Posts
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