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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
July 12 2011 00:14 GMT
#101
No I didn't buy a season 1 pass and do not plan to buy a season 2 pass. In fact, I will never buy a pass for any event NASL or not. Am I hurting E-SPORTS?
I <3 Plexa.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 12 2011 00:17 GMT
#102
watching the NASL is supporting Esports and I will continue to do so ^.^
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
July 12 2011 00:20 GMT
#103
Pretty much impossible for me to keep up with so many games so I skipped the premium pass the first season and will probably do it the second season aswell.
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
July 12 2011 00:21 GMT
#104
My only issue with NASL was how much time it took from match to match. I dont really care for a 45min open discussion with long breaks between games and longer breaks between matches. Watching NASL was an all day event
Fu[G]u
Profile Joined August 2010
United States187 Posts
July 12 2011 00:22 GMT
#105
My main reason for likely not buying a season 12 pass, (i bought one for season 1), was the fact that i could not take advantage of the high quality that i paid for due to lag.

The BEST quality setting was extremely pretty to look at, but was simply too laggy.

I cannot say or sure whether this was an issue with my connection, with JustinTV, or with NASL, but I can say that NASL's stream seemed to lag much worse on BEST than most other streams that I watch.

If the high quality was smooth enough to actually watch, i would likely buy a season 2 pass. But its just not worth it to pay for the high quality and still have to watch on 480p in order to see the actual battles.

I think NASL came a long way and deserves our support, and i might give it a second chance, but I will need to hear that the lag has improved first.
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
July 12 2011 00:25 GMT
#106
I personally found it hard to keep track of so many games over such a long time-span.

The finals were awesome, won't deny that. I wish NASL the best and hope they come back in Season 2 even stronger.
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18843 Posts
July 12 2011 00:26 GMT
#107
Sure, there were a great deal of problems, and some of you are no doubt perfectly justified in your decision to not pay for a second season, but I can't help but think that anyone with a vested interest in the future of e-sports ought to at least wait and see what the leadership of the NASL has in store for the upcoming seasons. How sad it would be if the established Sc2 community kills off its upstarts with a hypercritical, black and white sort of mentality when it comes to production value, when in reality some organizations are just a bit slower than others at getting "into the groove" so to speak.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
reisada
Profile Joined September 2010
183 Posts
July 12 2011 00:32 GMT
#108
On July 12 2011 09:26 farvacola wrote:
Sure, there were a great deal of problems, and some of you are no doubt perfectly justified in your decision to not pay for a second season, but I can't help but think that anyone with a vested interest in the future of e-sports ought to at least wait and see what the leadership of the NASL has in store for the upcoming seasons. How sad it would be if the established Sc2 community kills off its upstarts with a hypercritical, black and white sort of mentality when it comes to production value, when in reality some organizations are just a bit slower than others at getting "into the groove" so to speak.

well said i agree 100% with you. Thats exactly whats on my mind.
NASL has the potential to become the biggest event afte GSL. DOnt you guys want it to happen?
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 00:36:26
July 12 2011 00:35 GMT
#109
I will be buying season 2 ticket, mainly for the VODs. If I really wanted to, I could watch them live or during the EU rebroadcast, but i am too lazy and would rather watch before/after dinner.
Plus I don't have to watch the crappy games.
I didn't really mind the "problems" they had during this season. It was their first season, and I expected things to go wrong.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
July 12 2011 00:38 GMT
#110
I think that they should try an MLG Route where they focus on listening to the community instead of setting a plan from the beginning and not changing it
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 12 2011 00:38 GMT
#111
The league was cool, the finals needed some improvements in organisation.
But i don't think the prenium pass is worth it. Even with no free vods, i'm happy with the UE rediffusion.
I was hoping to see 480p being free during the whole thing tho.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
andyrichdale
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 00:39:48
July 12 2011 00:39 GMT
#112
On July 12 2011 08:43 visual77 wrote:
The final blow had nothing to do with the technical issues, though. PuMa winning felt so unsatisfying to me. Don't get me wrong, PuMa deserved that win more than I can describe. His play was flawless and he is one of the best out there. I just don't like that someone not even in the NASL during weeks 1-9 can win the championship. When I bought the ticket, I didn't realize how much this would annoy me.


Yeah I agree. Even though making the way through the open bracket and going on to win is very impressive it still felt like that whole 9 week build up was made worthless...

I think the open tournament should just award entry to the next season
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
July 12 2011 00:44 GMT
#113
I bought a season 1 ticket upon announcement. Living in Australia means I'm sleeping when the EU re-stream is on, and I'm at work when the NA stream is on.

I said it was "Waste of money, needs a lot of improvement."

There were 2 reasons why I bought a ticket.
Firstly, I wanted to support the NA eSports scene. It was anounced at a time pre-MLG Col, and up until that point there hadn't been any "OMFG MID BLOWN" tourneys in America (that I was aware of (Please note: I'm only about 12 months into the competative scene)).

Secondly, I wanted to watch the VODs. I wanted to come home after a shitty day at work, drink a beer, ignore the girlfriend, and watch the games I'd missed 8 hours ago.

Time between moving from Live NA stream to VOD was tooooo long. 36+ hours generally. By that time the community had forgotten about the games, and I'd missed out on the oppertunity to jump online and squeel like a little school girl.
Also. The only option for watching the VODs was 1080. I have the fastest internet option availible in my area (ADSL 2+) and I still could not watch without giving each game 15-30 minutes to buffer. This is unacceptable.

In conjunction of those two points alone, It was a complete waste of time, and both things would need to be changed.
6-8 hours is plenty of time to render a game and upload it. Get a machine dedicated to each match (for rendering) and get it up there. You're missing the boat.
1080 is great, however there should be a 720 option. I don't give a flying fuck if it is something that "J.TV" does, and they can't fix. If I'm paying YOU $25, I don't want to hear you blame it on someone else, I want you to fix the problem at hand.

In ending: As I haven't watched ANY fucking games for my $25, I can't commentate on the structure of the tourney, or how good/bad the casters were, or how great the games were. This is the worst part. When you take the community out of competative gaming all of a sudden you're a fat nerd watching two Koreans play a computer game late at night. Forever alone.....
Play the games!
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
July 12 2011 00:46 GMT
#114
i have no intention of paying to watch 10-15 top players steam roll through 30+ sub par players.

you want my money?

then get the best players.

until then its just another hyped up weekly Koth quality tournement with a big prize pool.

biggest joke of the NASL. it being an invite tournement, and out of the 50 so players they invited none of them won. it was someone who didnt have the popularity but was the better player then all those invited.
Forever ZeNEX.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#115
I'm really considering buying a pass for season 2, depends on how much time i will have tho T.T
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Loljke
Profile Joined January 2011
Ukraine246 Posts
July 12 2011 00:48 GMT
#116
Free 640p stream should be available or even free stream. Trying to earn some money on streams sucks.
o.o
aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
July 12 2011 00:54 GMT
#117
On July 12 2011 09:46 TyrantPotato wrote:
i have no intention of paying to watch 10-15 top players steam roll through 30+ sub par players.

you want my money?

then get the best players.

until then its just another hyped up weekly Koth quality tournement with a big prize pool.

biggest joke of the NASL. it being an invite tournement, and out of the 50 so players they invited none of them won. it was someone who didnt have the popularity but was the better player then all those invited.

The invite thing was definitely a problem, but the turnover for next season is completely qualifier-based, and they got a pretty good turnout. Not every top player wants to play in it, so it's not going to be GSL-quality, but the new players are much better than the ones they're losing. I think the game quality is going to be drastically higher - similar to MLG, and probably passing it in the third season.
mumming
Profile Joined June 2010
Faroe Islands256 Posts
July 12 2011 00:58 GMT
#118
I didn't buy the season 1 pass simply because I wouldn't have the time to watch both GSL and NASL, so I would rather watch the GSL untill the NASL has settled a bit and the fans love it so much that I have to watch it. So livestream from time to time. But season 1 didn't leave a very good impression IMO, so I won't buy season 2. Maybe season 3, if season 2 is awesome. Or season 2 later on if it's awesome.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
July 12 2011 01:05 GMT
#119
On July 12 2011 09:48 Loljke wrote:
Free 640p stream should be available or even free stream. Trying to earn some money on streams sucks.


What the hell is 640p? I know theres 480 and 720, but wtf is 640.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Kaxon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States117 Posts
July 12 2011 01:06 GMT
#120
I didn't vote because I don't know yet - it will depend on a couple of things like who they have as the main casters, who the players are, and whether I feel like i have time. I bought the pass in season 1 and at the beginning I was watching a lot, but as it went on I spent more time watching GSL and less time watching NASL.
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