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[Poll] NASL Premium - Season 2 polls

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CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 18:38:11
July 11 2011 22:25 GMT
#1
EDIT: For the record I am not an NASL employee, just a fan.

Polls to think about:

Poll: Will you be buying an NASL Season 2 premium pass?

No AND I did not buy Season 1 (1262)
 
63%

No AND I bought Season 1 (415)
 
21%

Yes AND I bought Season 1 (232)
 
11%

Yes AND I did not buy Season 1 (109)
 
5%

2018 total votes

Your vote: Will you be buying an NASL Season 2 premium pass?

(Vote): Yes AND I bought Season 1
(Vote): Yes AND I did not buy Season 1
(Vote): No AND I bought Season 1
(Vote): No AND I did not buy Season 1



This is the telling poll IMO. This will tell us the returning customers/dropout/new customer ratio.


Poll: How many hours/week did you watch the NASL?

0-1 (763)
 
45%

2-3 (270)
 
16%

1-2 (220)
 
13%

3-5 (199)
 
12%

8+ (126)
 
8%

5-8 (101)
 
6%

1679 total votes

Your vote: How many hours/week did you watch the NASL?

(Vote): 0-1
(Vote): 1-2
(Vote): 2-3
(Vote): 3-5
(Vote): 5-8
(Vote): 8+



RETURNING Season One Buyers:

Poll: Satisfaction Level with your NASL season 1 pass

Happy with what i got, some improvement needed (294)
 
34%

Waste of money, seriosuly needs to be improved (235)
 
27%

It was barely worth it and has lots of room for improvement (144)
 
17%

Not really worth it, needs a lot of improvement (113)
 
13%

Worst buying decision of all time, beyond repair. (42)
 
5%

Extremely happy with what I got overall (17)
 
2%

Very Happy with what I got, very little improvement needed (13)
 
2%

858 total votes

Your vote: Satisfaction Level with your NASL season 1 pass

(Vote): Extremely happy with what I got overall
(Vote): Very Happy with what I got, very little improvement needed
(Vote): Happy with what i got, some improvement needed
(Vote): It was barely worth it and has lots of room for improvement
(Vote): Not really worth it, needs a lot of improvement
(Vote): Waste of money, seriosuly needs to be improved
(Vote): Worst buying decision of all time, beyond repair.






Personal Opinion:

I purchased it at the very beginning, really only to support e-sports in NA. I had low expectations and NASL did not exceed them. However, over the weeks they dramatically improved on every level, including video/audio quality, casting, transitions and overall production value. By the week of the finals they had a finished touch on all aspects of the stream and were very impressive about things like scheduling and audience notification.

Unfortunately, one of the main reasons I bought the pass was to be able to watch the VODS high-def. This remains the ONLY aspect IMO of the entire production that (EDIT) continued* to have a glaring fault: Cutting and labelling of specific matches. As they are casting from replays I see no reason why the uploaded videos were not only poorly labelled, but mashed into huge videos where games may not start for 20-30 minutes. It made it extremely difficult to watch specific matches. Despite this, I will certainly be purchasing season two as the production value is still extremely high.

EDIT: The videos of the finals are immaculate. After waiting about a week they have them cut-and-dried perfectly. No complaints there at all



Micro your Macro
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:30:37
July 11 2011 22:30 GMT
#2
Waste of money, seriously needs to be improved. No offense but I personally did not like the casting, especially when Gretorp was involved.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:34:32
July 11 2011 22:31 GMT
#3
Not really worth it, too many NA players invited whose skills did not justify the invitation (see dropout rates from each respective region). This season, I am very tempted to buy it because the player pool improved a lit, not sure if I will. Maybe I wait another season, though.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 11 2011 22:32 GMT
#4
I'm probably going to wait a week or two into NASL Season 2. First I want to see who they bring in to replace Incontrol, then I want to see the quality of games improved and no more "oops we switched the games so that they discuss the result without showing the game".

After that, maybe I will buy it. But it has to be an incredible change. Something along the lines of IGN's crisp production quality. I don't really care that they have less time, that IGN has a month to prepare. The quality is what matters.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 22:34:26
July 11 2011 22:32 GMT
#5
I might buy it, i will watch the free stream for 2-3 weeks, then i will consider it. But right now all my money is going to GSL+GSTL.

Also for me personally, live offline tournaments>>>prerecorded online events.
LittleJohn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden204 Posts
July 11 2011 22:33 GMT
#6
didn't buy it season 1, not gonna buy it season 2, just not worth it, weekly cups are more watchable
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 11 2011 22:33 GMT
#7
I think they need to improve in many ways in order to get people to buy.
Whole organization was screaming ''amateur'',from tech quality,to venue appearance(studio sheets covering anything,rly NASL?,watch how glamorous GSL is),to random decisions like hiring Lindsey(no matter how much we love her) or this song at the season finale.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Zinjil
Profile Joined February 2011
United States166 Posts
July 11 2011 22:33 GMT
#8
I felt each week of the standard season had at least one series that was well worth whatever fraction of the money I paid to see the thing, with the games at the final event being even more worthy of my eyes and money, sound issues and the ret vs puma series notwithstanding.
TheAlchemist89
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
160 Posts
July 11 2011 22:35 GMT
#9
NASL has some work to be on par with a GSL... but I purchased a season 1 pass with NASL, and I was not disappointed. The games were excellent, the improvement week to week was pretty astonishing, and the atmosphere (if you ignored the insanely negative user chatter) was great.

I'm definitely buying Season 2, and can't wait to see how it goes. No doubt there will still be a season or two of kinks to work out, but I can't wait :D
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
July 11 2011 22:37 GMT
#10
Really didn't enjoy NASL compared to other events. I hope something is improved because they have the money, casters, and tech to make it a better event.

In addition the player fiasco and invites were just not up to par. Sure it's a good event to watch in my timezone, but I'd rather do stuff during the day and pay for a premium GSL sub at night for my SC viewing. Not to mention, GSL is live, has the highest level of skill, and awesome casters.
Crovea
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark100 Posts
July 11 2011 22:39 GMT
#11
I might be a unique person, but i just want to watch my favorite players play the game! (this pretty much had all of them) and i got more content than i could watch! The casting was a perfect balance of intertainement and analysis and i personally like iNcontrol alot.

sure things could be improved, i disliked getting spoiled when trying to access vods, and a few minor things here or there. Other than that i got the cheapest intertainement ive ever payed for, and it was worth a watch for sure!
ROOT4ROOT
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
July 11 2011 22:39 GMT
#12
Unless a major turnover for season 2 (which I don't see happening), I don't think I will be buying the season pass again. Too many things annoyed me and too many poor decisions were made related to the format.

Honestly, I really hope they manage to fix their league, but I'm not holding my breath now.

The finals were great though and I'll most definitely tune in for that next season (using the free low-quality).
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
July 11 2011 22:39 GMT
#13
Didn't buy the season 1 and i wont buy it next season. The broadcasting style is really stupid in my opinion. I don't like "splitting the scene" half, i.e own broadcast times for NA and EU. So that's why i even didn't watch any NASL games during the season, except the finals of course.

But that's just my opinion and i kinda understand why NASL would want to do it this way.

The prize of the season isn't much, but what i heard from the community, about all of the problems they had during the season, it can't be worth it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 11 2011 22:41 GMT
#14
On July 12 2011 07:39 CursedFeanor wrote:
Unless a major turnover for season 2 (which I don't see happening), I don't think I will be buying the season pass again. Too many things annoyed me and too many poor decisions were made related to the format.

Honestly, I really hope they manage to fix their league, but I'm not holding my breath now.

The finals were great though and I'll most definitely tune in for that next season (using the free low-quality).


The bad thing is, I feel the players saved the finals while the organizers dragged it down over all.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
July 11 2011 22:42 GMT
#15
I went to the finals and it was a lot of fun / really well run, except for a few issues on the first day with the projectors which were fixed the next day. Some people are saying that it looked amateur and there was lots of problems and stuff, at the start of the season I agree that it looked like that and it was true, these guys took on a huge project and there was obviously going to be some problems. But I think that they did an awesome job and the grand finals was really awesome and I think that next season will be 10x better than the first one : )

Oh and I bought a season 1 pass and I will definitely buy a season 2 pass, 1080p HD is so nice and definitely worth 20 bucks for 4 months of sc2 + if I miss any really good games I can watch the vods : )
www.root-gaming.com
FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
July 11 2011 22:43 GMT
#16
I think it's too expensive for the quality of the stream. Not gonna buy it
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
July 11 2011 22:44 GMT
#17
On July 12 2011 07:39 Grettin wrote:
Didn't buy the season 1 and i wont buy it next season. The broadcasting style is really stupid in my opinion. I don't like "splitting the scene" half, i.e own broadcast times for NA and EU. So that's why i even didn't watch any NASL games during the season, except the finals of course.

But that's just my opinion and i kinda understand why NASL would want to do it this way.

The prize of the season isn't much, but what i heard from the community, about all of the problems they had during the season, it can't be worth it.

how is it splitting the scene LOL if you are european then you can stay up and watch the first broadcast LOL it's not like you get IP blocked if you are from EU. They picked the time when the most people will watch for the main broadcast, and were nice enough to give a free re-stream to europeans who couldn't stay up late
www.root-gaming.com
Calasmere
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
July 11 2011 22:47 GMT
#18
I personally won't probably ever buy the NASL, despite buying EVERY other event. I wasn't a big fan of the casters apart from the finals event, and I absolutely hate the group stages going on for several months. There's pretty much no climax, just random game after game. Loved the finals event though, but obviously that's a tiny portion of what the NASL is.

Also, because there's game after game for months in group, it's fucking impossible to watch them all, and it's work to find out which ones are actually worth watching on top of the GSL.

Oh, and the production quality will never match that of the GSL most likely, so that's another reason why I'll be happily buying my GSL ticket every season and will most likely never touch the NASL.
LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
July 11 2011 22:48 GMT
#19
I found format boring, otherwise they have improved and I am looking forward for more improvement.

Zinjil
Profile Joined February 2011
United States166 Posts
July 11 2011 22:51 GMT
#20
I feel like if people went back and compared the quality of games first season of GSL with the quality of games first season of NASL there would be a lot less complaining about stream/sound/caster issues, but maybe people have forgotten what the beginnings of the korean league were like.
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