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i didnt buy this season because of the horrible start...and seeing it still having problems not going to buy the second season. Especially with the bs statements they were saying during the finals. Your going to put the happiness of 1000 people over 80k people thats smart.
But i will say i like what nasl is doing, its more like the nfl and i like it...unless your a superfan you arent going to watch all the games. Your going to have your favorite 1 or 2 teams and your just going to tune in to watch their games. But imo 25$ is not worth it, i might feel differently if i respected the managment of nasl a bit more but i just dont.
Guys i have a great idea lets make a league with the biggest prize pool ever, and with whats left lets hire untested casters, have a tech crew who doesnt know what to do and dont know when its time to bring on someone who does. Brilliant buisness plan.
i think sirscoots said it best when he was answering a fan call about the fan base of esports. If you do right by us we will support you any way we can and are one of the most passionate bases you can capture. But if you come out the gate and make a horrible impression in our minds, that same passion has a very negative side.
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Compared to other content like MLG, GSL and IPL, which have far superior production and quality of which I usually and gladly pay for.
There's no way I will ever pay for a S1 pass to NASL. I will not endorse a subpar tournament who have repetitively shown little improvement over time and poor/rude PR.
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The reason NASL is unacceptable. Their streams are NOT live. Their casts are. There is not an overload of live packets hogging bandwidth. There should be no streaming or lag issues. GSL ON GOMTV. LIVE LIVE LIVE. 99% uptime. Oh did i mention that these says are LIVE everyday? with a professional broadcasting team and studio? NASL do you have that? just so NASL knows. Most people can't handle HD content. Thus the reason for HQ VODs and not HD VODs. Comcast has a 250 GB cap per month before they cut off your service. Most people pc's will not handle full HD video as the bitrates require high level of resources to process.
Oh, and it was stated that paid users will get the even "commercial free". What was up with all the commercials during the finals? You guys should give people their money back for false advertising seeing how it WAS one of your major selling points being on the front of the purchase page.
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I bought the ticket and watched every match for the first week or two then really lost interest. I even ended up being out of town for the finals so I missed them completely... kind of a waste of money.
Honestly the season dragged on too long and it got really boring. It's honestly just too much SC2, and I watch a lot.
I won't purchase a season 2 pass, although if I had more disposable income right now I probably would just to support the scene.
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It was a bumpy start, and the format was on the dull side. But I was always astounded at how exciting the games were. Boxer playing like boxer in every single match had me on the edge of my seat in a way that nothing has since the Jinro vs MC games in the code S RO32.
For what I paid, the quality of the games themselves just walked all over anything out of the GSL during that same period.
I can't see why anyone would buy the GSL -over- the NASL next season. You get more games, the games are more exciting. The live stream is higher quality and doesn't require proprietary software.
The GSL has a better format. Big whoop, we've been disappointed with every single final of the GSL code S/open. And you're insane if you thought the NASL finals were anything short of brilliant.
Diggity also has the sexiest voice and the best pacing of any caster I've seen, next to tasteless. He can talk fast as hell and be PERFECTLY clear. A very rare gift. Gretorp dropped the strange, stiff, pedantic-ness, and geoff's snarky insults was always great (so many haters though, lololol)
So in short, NASL has a devoted fan. I'm not going to renew my GSL team league (will still buy the code S in the vain hope that it stops sucking donkey cocks as the rounds get smaller)
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On July 27 2011 19:42 theDirtyDuB wrote:
The reason NASL is unacceptable. Their streams are NOT live. Their casts are. There is not an overload of live packets hogging bandwidth. There should be no streaming or lag issues. GSL ON GOMTV. LIVE LIVE LIVE. 99% uptime. Oh did i mention that these says are LIVE everyday? with a professional broadcasting team and studio? NASL do you have that? just so NASL knows. Most people can't handle HD content. Thus the reason for HQ VODs and not HD VODs. Comcast has a 250 GB cap per month before they cut off your service. Most people pc's will not handle full HD video as the bitrates require high level of resources to process.
Oh, and it was stated that paid users will get the even "commercial free". What was up with all the commercials during the finals? You guys should give people their money back for false advertising seeing how it WAS one of your major selling points being on the front of the purchase page.
Do you have any idea how horrendously terrible the GSL's broadcasts were, first season? The stream broke every single night until the RO4, IIRC.
Also, the GSL's "HQ" live, is shit. And the gomplayer is notoriously riddled with update problems not letting buyers (including me) watch the HQ service at all. I have to watch the live, shitty free stream that everyone not paying gets.
Ignorance is not a good reason for your position.
(also, comcast won't cut off your service at 250gb, brochacho. I have that same "limit," and I blow past 5-10 terabytes every single month and they've never batted an eyelash.)
Two of my roommates also work for comcast. They confirmed what I just said. If they have reason to believe you're causing poor service for other customers in the area, they'll ask nicely, SEVERAL times, before throttling you down. Even then, they won't cut off your service, just throttle your speeds specifically at peak times. That's how it worked for me in alaska and all of washington state, at least.
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NASL production was just sad....i wanted to buy a season 1 pass at the start but they had no paypal at the time.... and after i saw the first few games with gretorp and incontrol casting i was damn glad i didnt buy it. Only Premium that was worth my money was HSC3. Im not planning to buy the NASL 2 pass till they can make a proper close to problemless Season.
FYI: The Finals were saved by good games + Tastosis. If they didnt had that....oh damn
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On July 27 2011 20:10 HaRxTears wrote:
NASL production was just sad....i wanted to buy a season 1 pass at the start but they had no paypal at the time.... and after saw the first few games with gretorp and incontrol casting i was damn glad i didnt buy it. Only Premium that was worth my money was HSC3. Im not planning to buy the NASL 2 pass till they can make a proper close to problemless Season.
FYI: The Finals were saved by good games + Tastosis. If they didnt had that....oh damn
You should have watched... well... anything after that first bumpy month.
The production was very rough for the first few weeks, but the fixes came fast and heavy. By the second month I was watching every single TvX matchup (as well as my favorite non-zergs) and was happy as a clam.
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On July 27 2011 20:10 HaRxTears wrote:
NASL production was just sad....i wanted to buy a season 1 pass at the start but they had no paypal at the time.... and after saw the first few games with gretorp and incontrol casting i was damn glad i didnt buy it. Only Premium that was worth my money was HSC3. Im not planning to buy the NASL 2 pass till they can make a proper close to problemless Season.
FYI: The Finals were saved by good games + Tastosis. If they didnt had that....oh damn
Haha, this is kind of exactly my experience as well. Additionally to what you said, though, I really have to give credit to Incontrol/Gretorp for casting the finals - they actually did a good job there.
I will be eagerly following Season 2, though. NASL has shown they are able to tackle problems, so despite of the major flaws we all loathed so far, I still have faith they may come through. Before I'm convinced they did come through, though, I will not be giving money to them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think NASL is the most expensive premium of any SC2 events, and if I'm gonna buy the most expensive service, I expect it to be the best, no less. They set that standard themselves with that pricing, and I for one am going to hold them to it.
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The games at the NASL finals were awesome, everything else was crap.
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The format kinda means im not interessted in paying for it. Waaaay too much content, would never have time to watch it all anyway. Also the production quality has a long way to go before i will consider this anything resembling a finished product.
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The sheer quantity produced by the NASL in season one justified my first season purchase and with season 2 looking to be even better, in terms of production, I am excited to watch as much of it as possible with my HD pass. I hope they continue to garner more and more support from the community as they prove they deserve it.
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I just didn't bother watching the vods enough for it to be worth is in my mind and I only watched some live games so meh not worth the 25$ for me.
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i will buy for the sole reason of the absolute fun the finales were.
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I did not buy season 1 pass, but I bought the season 2 pass. Reason? Much better lineup. Most of my favourite players just joined season 2, so a ticket was a must for me.
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I didn't expect the finals to be so terrible in terms of audio and production preparation, if I had bought a premium for it I would've asked for a refund. Also there were way to many games before the playoffs, you can't seriously expect someone to watch all or most of the matches especially as normal viewers who are interested in other leagues and other hobbies. Quality over quantity to sum it up briefly.
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On July 27 2011 20:22 Honeybadger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 20:10 HaRxTears wrote:
NASL production was just sad....i wanted to buy a season 1 pass at the start but they had no paypal at the time.... and after saw the first few games with gretorp and incontrol casting i was damn glad i didnt buy it. Only Premium that was worth my money was HSC3. Im not planning to buy the NASL 2 pass till they can make a proper close to problemless Season.
FYI: The Finals were saved by good games + Tastosis. If they didnt had that....oh damn You should have watched... well... anything after that first bumpy month. The production was very rough for the first few weeks, but the fixes came fast and heavy. By the second month I was watching every single TvX matchup (as well as my favorite non-zergs) and was happy as a clam.
Dont worry i did watch it with most of the time sound off except when a guest caster was involved.
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On July 27 2011 20:30 Eldrythan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 20:10 HaRxTears wrote:
NASL production was just sad....i wanted to buy a season 1 pass at the start but they had no paypal at the time.... and after saw the first few games with gretorp and incontrol casting i was damn glad i didnt buy it. Only Premium that was worth my money was HSC3. Im not planning to buy the NASL 2 pass till they can make a proper close to problemless Season.
FYI: The Finals were saved by good games + Tastosis. If they didnt had that....oh damn Haha, this is kind of exactly my experience as well. Additionally to what you said, though, I really have to give credit to Incontrol/Gretorp for casting the finals - they actually did a good job there. I will be eagerly following Season 2, though. NASL has shown they are able to tackle problems, so despite of the major flaws we all loathed so far, I still have faith they may come through. Before I'm convinced they did come through, though, I will not be giving money to them. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think NASL is the most expensive premium of any SC2 events, and if I'm gonna buy the most expensive service, I expect it to be the best, no less. They set that standard themselves with that pricing, and I for one am going to hold them to it.
Well, it's $25 for 2 Month (+ finals) of content 5 days a week in ultra-high quality. GSL $10 with ads, $20 without ads for one month in not really that good quality and for GSTL you have to pay extra.
The price of the NASL is definatly not high in any way, just because it's one payment for multiple month instead of multiple payments each for one month, it seems higher.
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id rather see 360p at 3 am in the morning then paying 20 euros.
i would prolly buy it, if it would be sth like 10 dollars, and the whole thing would start 3 hours earlier. no1 needs RE-broadcasts.
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Bought a season pass for S1 but as other people said its to many games so I am not bothering with an S2 pass. Will probs get an S2 finals pass though.
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