EPT[Poll] NASL Premium - Season 2 polls - Page 8
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AgentZero
United States28 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On July 12 2011 11:48 sansalvador wrote: They want GSL money, but they don't deliver GSL quality. No. With quadruple GSL quantity...depends on the person, but no ads $25 is pretty dang good if you compare the two. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Koillette
56 Posts
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ChefTony
United States68 Posts
IMO the season was way way to long, and there a handful of players that just out right had no place in the league which lead to a lot of complete blow outs. The casting was awkward at best to the point where I would watch most games on mute, occasional when Gretorp was absent I would listen. (I don't hate the guy in fact it's the opposite. It's hard to watch someone stumble through a cast talking nonsense, I mean you can tell he knows his stuff but can't seem to get it out fluently or with any showmanship the guy is just not a caster, Honestly when the poor guy talks I cringe.) The production value improved huge throughout the season which was nice to see but I felt the production for the finals was a complete joke. I think the icing on the cake for me was the tournament format round of 16 best of three plus 2 players who weren't even in the 3 month long league, and then one of them winning it just made the whole long season look totally meaningless. Moral of the story is I waited to buy a pass to see what it would be like and am glad I did I will defiantly not be purchasing a pass, and I'm not gonna go out of my way to watch season 2. Sorry NASL but you just didn't do it for me maybe you'll blow my mind with season 2, but with Gretorp as your main caster it's hard to take you seriously. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
And as for production issues, I didn't feel like they hindered the weekly broadcasts very much. In the end, the games were broadcast and they were always interesting to watch. | ||
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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Cuiu
Germany410 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On July 12 2011 07:56 Gurblechev wrote: No offense to people who enjoy NASL but I think it is an extremely poor choice to give them any money in their current state. All the problems that plagued them were human error and yet they have still not taken responsibility for the problems and just make excuses or pretend people who complain are "haters". There is no reason to expect they will suddenly improve by season 2 without staff changes. They did not improve much over the season and were still having problems at the finals that they were having on day 1. Also their website is abysmal and justin.tv/twitch.tv doesn't have a very good website either and are not suitable as a VOD provider. And the way they are streaming--by playing their prepared video in windows media player and then running a screencapping program to stream to justin.tv--degrades video quality a lot and causes inflated bitrates. They could take the time to encode and stream properly and they would get higher quality at lower bitrates. Including other problems like "premium 1080p" being interlaced during camera shots, the audio sounding poor even when they have managed to put it out both channels at the same volume, it really puts their level below even the small weekly cups as someone else mentioned. I would rather support GSL which has very polished and superb production, and MLG who took responsibility for their screwups and really delivered a top notch show at Columbus. I'd buy two GSL and two MLG tickets to support good organizations before I bought NASL again. Giving NASL money sets a bad precedent in the SC2 esports market that making a cash grab and disregarding quality will be rewarded. I had high hopes for them before they launched but at this point I really hope they go bankrupt to send a message that starcraft viewers have at least some standards and are not complete bottom feeders. Very well written and for the most part i agree with you, it does set a bad standard to support a sub par league like this, look at IPL (wich is free BTW) they did a very polished production and dont really ask for anything in return (yet) compared to NASL its like night and day. I also really dont like the attitude of the admins and the people at the top running NASL, between xeris taking every little critisicm about his casting or the productioin of the league personally, to getting banned on the chat for telling them something isnt right , for instance i paid for the first season and about half way through the season i started getting ad's popping up (even in the middle of games it seemed sometimes) and i asked what i could do to fix it in the chat and complained about it in a very manner way a few times and i would never get a response and more often then not i would get banned, finally a random on the chat suggested a fix for me and that worked. Aside from Geoff taking responsibility for all the misplaced hype before it started i have never really seen NASL take any responsibility for things that have gone wrong all ive heard is "it wont happen again we got it under control" and then it happens again and again and their never seems to be an explanation or anyone taking responsibility for the problems that have riddled NASL from the start. Its almost like they think that these things are normal and are expected to happen , maybe in the first week, but not again and again throughout the entire league including the live finals. I was a paying customer before and I certainly wont be a paying customer again, ive payed for every season of GSL and have never once complained about it and thoroughly enjoyed it every step of the way. If NASL was even half as good as the GSL production wise maybe they would get my bussiness again , but i doubt it they have made me very untrustworthy of them. Edit: also the casting just never did it for me , I liked geoffs casting he can make games sound really epic, but it was never really Geoff + a guest caster it was always Gretorp and i just cant stand his casting for some reason , i really stopped giving a crap about half way through the season ( i might tune in for nada boxer or Mc's games but thats about it) and one of the main reasons was gretorps rather annoying casting style. | ||
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Spectorials
558 Posts
I live in Australia so it is not possible for me to watch the games live (as I am working when the games are shown live). I thought the season pass would be great for this but NASL chose a service which only allows me to stream in 1080p (many people don't have internet fast enough to buffer this while watching). I made a couple of posts in a feedback thread where some mods were replying to people about issues they were have but nobody gave a solution. I will NOT be purchasing for Season 2. Sorry guys. There will be a lot more in my boat too. | ||
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MileyCyrus
United States285 Posts
PREPARE for the love of god, the start of the NASL was rough and the finals were a major let down i am not a fan of gretorp casting organize the VODs (take 5-10 minutes to render games seperatly with the caster wrap-up of the game occurring at the end of the VOD) I bought a seaosn1 pass and will buy a season two pass hoping it will work out better; if im disappointed again i wont buy further passes without strong proof of a better product. | ||
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theBOOCH
United States832 Posts
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
If they get rid of Gretorp (sorry, dude) and get new, good casters to fill the void, I might be convinced to purchase the next season, like I purchased this one. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Serek
United Kingdom459 Posts
On July 12 2011 08:48 BryanSC wrote: It's not GSL's fault that their Code S finals have been terrible, just as it's not to NASL's credit that MC vs. Puma turned out to be a great finals. People seriously need to get this point across in their minds. | ||
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ChefTony
United States68 Posts
On July 12 2011 12:30 dAPhREAk wrote: i didnt watch the weekly matches because it was just too damn much with all the other things going on. i would just watch my favorite players. however, the finals alone was worth the money. i will buy season 2 as well. the groups are too long though; shorten it please. =) otherwise, awesome tournament. Were the finals worth the money because of the games or the production? Honestly with the exception of a few Sen/drkforce the games didn't get good until the Koreans meet and Artosis and Tasteless casted. Sounds like GSL to me. Although let me say GSL has yet to produce a final series like that. Maybe they should just let a the winner of code A/B go straight to the round of 16 code S : P | ||
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Hellscum
Norway37 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 12 2011 12:38 heatly wrote: Were the finals worth the money because of the games or the production? Honestly with the exception of a few Sen/drkforce the games didn't get good until the Koreans meet and Artosis and Tasteless casted. Sounds like GSL to me. Although let me say GSL has yet to produce a final series like that. Maybe they should just let a the winner of code A/B go straight to the round of 16 code S : P nasl was worth it. gsl is worth it. why cant i just like both? also, nasl brought americans, europeans and koreans together for an awesome competition. gsl hasn't done that. so, as far as tournaments go, both have their good points and bad points. plus, are people forgetting how bad gsl was in its first season? such limited memories. go look at the ban list for all the bitching directed at gsl and tastosis. | ||
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