Also, while I like having group play, I felt like the league went on a little too long. This was especially a problem with people dropping out, which as far as I'm concerned is completely unacceptable unless it's for medical reasons (TLO). Guys like Painuser and Artosis definitely lost some of my respect for quitting before it was over.

Drowsy

United States4876 Posts

July 12 2011 01:13 GMT

#122

NOT buying. 25$ is outrageous. It would need to be cheaper than GSL for me to consider it, because it's simply not as good of a tournament. GSL has higher production values, arguably better players, far better commentators, and is overall a much more professional and well-done arrangement. Time is finite, and I just couldn't possibly imagine dedicating enough of it to follow NASL when I could be watching the GSL. Many non-korean tournaments either release replays or have free hq less laggy streams (MLG, Dreamhack, TSL, IPL), occasionally I'll drop into those if GSL is all TvT one week. Doesn't NASL wait like a full 3 days before getting the vods up anyway? GSL feels practically instant; I go to bed just before the games are played and I wake up fairly early and there they are. I think the thing about NASL that bothers me the most is justin.tv; it just doesn't seem to work for nasl. The prohibitive price tag makes the decision that much easier, no NASL unless they both clean up their act and give me a better price. Based on the quality of NASL season one, 5$ would be the most I would be willing to pay.

I know some tournaments are going to be staying around for several years. IPL, GSL, MLG, and DH will keep hosting sc2 tournaments for a long time. NASL? While I don't wish failure on anyone, if they continue at this rate, I don't think they'll make it to sc2's first expansion.

Danglars

United States12133 Posts

July 12 2011 01:18 GMT

#123

The professionalism shown in the finals has increased my respect for what NASL is bringing in high-level Starcraft 2 games. Starting from my attendance in Day 2 Quarterfinals and Finals, I really thought they took care of their players and did all in their power to reduce video/sound problems for their viewers. Sen vs. MC, MC vs PuMa, and PuMa vs Squirtle final game were all so awesome. Look at GSL Finals then back to NASL Finals. God, what a comparison!

So, really enjoy the quality of games. Just the local community viewing parties we've had with a season pass have been wonderful. Following my favorite players through this next season with the pass!

NoobSkills

United States1603 Posts

July 12 2011 01:20 GMT

#124

I bought NASL for the VODs. The VODs suck. It is their fault for working with JTV, but nothing they can do now. I will not be buying again as I cannot watch the matches live. I even have good internet speed and still it takes forever to buffer a single video. THEN if you make a single mistake you have to buffer again OR there is another 30 minute video that is hotlinked on the right. Stupid setup.

Gurgl

Sweden308 Posts

July 12 2011 01:24 GMT

#125

I didn't buy season one pass and only watched a few games during the season aswell as two matches at the finals, the reason I didn't watch more of the finals is mostly due to the delays and problems at the beginning but I wasn't so hyped for it either. The league format doesn't appeal to me at all , I just don't get excited watching it when it's drawn out over such a long period of time. I used to watch alot of GSL in the beginning when it was new and exciting but lately I haven't watched any GSL at all eventhough they have very good production and two of my favourite casters.

I get much more excited for events like the latest MLG, Dreamhack, HSC where I usually sit glued to the screen for hours and watch most of the games.

mango_destroyer

Canada3914 Posts

July 12 2011 01:32 GMT

#126

I think I will be watching more NASL next season because there is finally better players and more korean players.

As for purchasing, I will not purchase until they show they can fix things in their control like audio. They had issues with it the entire season and the entire weekend for the finals. Until they show they can get atleast that right I will purchase. Audio is kind of a big thing for me if I am watching something online.

Ome

Canada157 Posts

July 12 2011 01:35 GMT

#127

Depends on the quality. Going to watch the free stream for the first few weeks. If production values are better, and games are better (less blowouts please!) then I'll pick it up. The addition of more great koreans certainly adds more value to the price for me personally (no offense NA pros!)

Assirra

Belgium4169 Posts

July 12 2011 01:40 GMT

#128

I didn't got one this season since i wanted to check out what you got and was dissapointed.
So i will just watch another season for free and hope they have improved.
and no, i don't count the games with the events, it was lucky we had the games the way they were.

Sein

United States1811 Posts

July 12 2011 01:42 GMT

#129

On July 12 2011 08:50 Duravi wrote:

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Yeah this kind of bothered me too. It makes regular season play illegitimate to an extent that someone can come in from the open tournament and win the whole thing. It also seems like there is really no advantage to placing high in the regular season, as long as you can get high enough to make the tournament you are basically at the same level as everyone else.

Well, it is bloody difficult to win that open tournament, and winning it was the only way to secure your spot in the finals (well, although an exception was made this time with Strelok dropping out.

Gurblechev

188 Posts

July 12 2011 02:00 GMT

#130

On July 12 2011 10:05 57 Corvette wrote:

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What the hell is 640p? I know theres 480 and 720, but wtf is 640.

640p means 640 scanlines with progressive video. Progressive video is where the whole frame is displayed at once, as opposed to interlaced where it alternates between even and odd scanlines.

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

July 12 2011 02:02 GMT

#131

My problem is GSL was my first experience and I expect every long tournament//season thing to be just as good. Sorry NASL

I won't be buying. I did watch 2-3 hours a week however so there's some ad revenue.

Primadog

United States4411 Posts

July 12 2011 02:11 GMT

#132

$5 Discount Code: enter "nasls2presale" in all lower case.

Giwoon

Korea (South)431 Posts

July 12 2011 02:26 GMT

#133

keep gretorp
LOL he's so bad that he's good <3

hacky

United States63 Posts

July 12 2011 02:33 GMT

#134

I waited until week 1 of season 1 to decide whether to buy a pass, watched the first few days, and then decided not to due to production quality. They got better, but not enough to convince me to buy it as I had stopped following it. I tuned into the finals, and was shocked at how BAD the quality of the day1 stream was.

Two first impressions bombed. Not buying a season 2 pass unless there's SIGNIFICANT improvement.

GameTime

United States222 Posts

July 12 2011 02:36 GMT

#135

Idk why everyone is hating on the NASL so much.

The sheer amount of games isn't comparable to GSL which is why it costs more. I liked the HD vods and live with no commercials, only thing to improve on would be to have the vods not be on Justin.tv.

I was satisfied with what I paid for, probably will buy again next season.

Dogbert

Canada87 Posts

July 12 2011 02:38 GMT

#136

I don't like the casters enough to pay for NASL (gretorp especially), that's the main reason I never bought season 1 and will not buy season 2.

Duravi

United States1205 Posts

July 12 2011 02:40 GMT

#137

Idk why everyone is hating on the NASL so much.

I think hating is not really the appropriate word. Different people have different expectations/standards for what they get relative to how much they paid.

Naughty

United States114 Posts

July 12 2011 02:44 GMT

#138

The way I see it, the production with both sound, editing and justin.tv lag is not worth watching it in High def anyway. The vods take to long to load to be worth it as well.

So for a few ads I can get the same product i was getting with my pass anyway and not pay a dime.

nukeazerg

United States168 Posts

July 12 2011 02:44 GMT

#139

THey REALLY need to eliminate the open bracket goes to playoffs. The open bracket got invitations for this season 2, so why would they have another open to go to playoffs.

World Cup doesn't hold a second qualifiers for someone after the group stages to go to the playoffs with everyone else, they respect that they already had the qualifiers to get in to the group stage.

sansalvador

Austria308 Posts

July 12 2011 02:48 GMT

#140

They want GSL money, but they don't deliver GSL quality.
No.