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HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
July 09 2011 10:07 GMT
#141
Please let us hear more from the audience! When players are being introduced I want to hear some noise and as I understand there was noise but none that any microphone really picked up on. I could only hear crickets when MC entered and did his fist pumping ceremony thing which made the whole scene rather awkward and dull instead of exciting.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 10:09:52
July 09 2011 10:09 GMT
#142
On July 09 2011 16:32 Bengui wrote:
So you're telling us there was never one occasion in the history of Starcraft where a player who was down 1-2 after the third game of a Bo5 came back to win 3-2 ?
It's just basic logic : the more games you play, the less chances the inferior player has of creating an upset.

i understand this, but my argument is more like this: a progamer will never lose a bo3 and then say, "if this was a bo5, i would've definitely won." it's stupid to think that players who got eliminated in a bo3 deserve a bo5 just because they lost in a disappointing 0-2 manner. a bo3 in no way, shape or form is unfair to either competitor.
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 09 2011 10:10 GMT
#143
it seems really odd to me that they spend 3 months doing this huge group play setup to find the best players of each group, then let people fall out of the finals in 15 mins due to single elimination.
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
July 09 2011 10:12 GMT
#144
i want to watch this on my tv with a few friends tomorrow but i'm scared because it will make starcraft look so bad for them if there is still tons of issues (they have never watched it before on a professional level)
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
July 09 2011 10:12 GMT
#145
So I have 25 dollar nasl pass, do I have to pay for the vods on this final?
Lorizean
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1330 Posts
July 09 2011 10:33 GMT
#146
On July 09 2011 18:54 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 17:26 kalany wrote:
You can't blame it all on NASL. The crowd seemed tired and dead. NASL's gotta focus on a better venue and production crew. That computer making that sponsored them was probably in charge and they didn't necessarily do a good job.


[...]
When you're a business, it being your first time is not a valid excuse.
[...]


This I find very important to note. As I said before, nobody actually expects a perfect product, but this isn't just not perfect, there are a large number of amateur-ish problems. There was enough time during the 10 weeks of NASL to hire somebody who knows what they're doing. You are charging the same/more than all the other (more professional) events, yet you do not deliver similarly.
The only reason why people are defending this is that eSports as a business model is relatively young (at least outside of Korea), yet I don't think it's the right attitude to allow these problems to happen just because "well, it's the first time".
Lava
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany32 Posts
July 09 2011 10:37 GMT
#147
Also, the bracket on the nasl.tv website is not updated - I had to go to TeamLiquid to check the results of the first day.
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
July 09 2011 10:57 GMT
#148
ffs fix the downtime and tournament format. that is all. -_-


From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
July 09 2011 10:59 GMT
#149
man, NASL did 1 BIG mistake: They didn't hire TL forum poster. It seems like they exactly know how things work and could solve all problems in the world.....
petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
July 09 2011 11:27 GMT
#150
On July 09 2011 19:12 FinBenton wrote:
So I have 25 dollar nasl pass, do I have to pay for the vods on this final?

It's 10$ for this weekend even if the nasl page says different.
Moai
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy47 Posts
July 09 2011 11:30 GMT
#151
embarassing event
Skydancer
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 11:37:52
July 09 2011 11:37 GMT
#152
One of the big fault imo that's not yet posted is the map selection.

See all game 1 and 2 on the same map is so boring. Let the loser pick the map and random select the first map or choose the first map in some way for every match.
MMA | MC | Dear
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
July 09 2011 11:45 GMT
#153
On July 09 2011 20:37 Skydancer wrote:
One of the big fault imo that's not yet posted is the map selection.

See all game 1 and 2 on the same map is so boring. Let the loser pick the map and random select the first map or choose the first map in some way for every match.


I have to agree with this guy. Xelnaga, then cross fire got a little boring for all the matches in my humble opinion.
homer001
Profile Joined October 2010
493 Posts
July 09 2011 11:46 GMT
#154
lol at the map pool
every match was xelnaga caverns, crossfire and shattered
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 13:51:20
July 09 2011 11:48 GMT
#155
On July 09 2011 20:27 petu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 19:12 FinBenton wrote:
So I have 25 dollar nasl pass, do I have to pay for the vods on this final?

It's 10$ for this weekend even if the nasl page says different.

Wait, what?

I'm pretty sure this isn't true. The $25 pass is for the entire season, there's no way they're charging extra to get access to the finals. There isn't even such a subscription option on the NASL site.

Edit to add: I can confirm that the season pass gives you access to the VODs. I'm watching them right now.
The frumious Bandersnatch
pieman819
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia457 Posts
July 09 2011 11:52 GMT
#156
On July 09 2011 19:33 Lorizean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 18:54 Jibba wrote:
On July 09 2011 17:26 kalany wrote:
You can't blame it all on NASL. The crowd seemed tired and dead. NASL's gotta focus on a better venue and production crew. That computer making that sponsored them was probably in charge and they didn't necessarily do a good job.


[...]
When you're a business, it being your first time is not a valid excuse.
[...]


This I find very important to note. As I said before, nobody actually expects a perfect product, but this isn't just not perfect, there are a large number of amateur-ish problems. There was enough time during the 10 weeks of NASL to hire somebody who knows what they're doing. You are charging the same/more than all the other (more professional) events, yet you do not deliver similarly.
The only reason why people are defending this is that eSports as a business model is relatively young (at least outside of Korea), yet I don't think it's the right attitude to allow these problems to happen just because "well, it's the first time".

great post, I couldn't agree more there was slow progress made throughout the regular season but even by the end there was still a noticeable lack of polish. I hope they give their whole production gets a good look at in the offseason to work on improving the quality of their product.
Hi
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
July 09 2011 11:57 GMT
#157
TBH we don't need to tell them, if they can't work it out then SURELY thats their fuckup.

Protip : get one dude to test the stream as an audience before going live, and we would of have known the sound was imba
andytb
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 11:59:44
July 09 2011 11:58 GMT
#158
Could we have an option in the poll for GSL groups in the Ro16? It's more exciting because every game matters and less time consuming than a full round robin! It also means there's never going to be a need for tiebreakers.
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
July 09 2011 12:06 GMT
#159
On July 09 2011 20:58 andytb wrote:
Could we have an option in the poll for GSL groups in the Ro16? It's more exciting because every game matters and less time consuming than a full round robin! It also means there's never going to be a need for tiebreakers.

GSL groups only appears to take less time because GSL has 4 booths, so 2 players are always ready to go. It wouldn't work with 2 booths, it would take forever to play all the games with all the switching in and out
I am down but I am far from over
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 09 2011 12:11 GMT
#160
i dont like how they took an hour break during primetime
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