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Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
July 09 2011 22:31 GMT
#481
Are there any reasons for the massive downtime between matches and them using gretorp etc to cast games when they got day9 and tastosis?
Dark Stalker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
102 Posts
July 09 2011 22:36 GMT
#482
On July 10 2011 01:54 Xeris wrote:
Trust me, we listen to all constructive feedback. We've made strides of improvement throughout the season, and we will do so for this event... and all future events.

Anywho. It's been nice chatting with you guys! I hope you all enjoy the event today, we've been working quite hard all night and this morning to make some changes to make things better.



Not a single God damn apology from this guy except for: "GSL can afford to put 1+ million into prize pool alone in a year. We're not at the level where we can do that yet, sorry." Fucking pathetic.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 09 2011 22:43 GMT
#483
The reason we're playing the intros today is because we had projection problems yesterday so the people in the building couldn't see. We wanted to give them a chance to see the videos

twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Gurblechev
Profile Joined May 2011
188 Posts
July 09 2011 22:44 GMT
#484
On July 10 2011 07:31 Mercury- wrote:
Are there any reasons for the massive downtime between matches and them using gretorp etc to cast games when they got day9 and tastosis?

The longer they draw this out the more ads they can show.

A bit dishonest to the advertisers though since most viewers aren't actually watching during downtime but they leave the stream open.
biGOREno
Profile Joined April 2011
France5 Posts
July 09 2011 22:45 GMT
#485
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAH MC EPIC
Vuistgevecht
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
July 09 2011 22:45 GMT
#486
I really dont understand why they keep letting gretorp cast, its like they feel bad for him if they dont give him any air time...

Artosis, incontrol and tasteless are on standby and they pick gretorp...
Theberlinwall
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada57 Posts
July 09 2011 22:45 GMT
#487
On July 10 2011 07:36 Dark Stalker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 01:54 Xeris wrote:
Trust me, we listen to all constructive feedback. We've made strides of improvement throughout the season, and we will do so for this event... and all future events.

Anywho. It's been nice chatting with you guys! I hope you all enjoy the event today, we've been working quite hard all night and this morning to make some changes to make things better.



Not a single God damn apology from this guy except for: "GSL can afford to put 1+ million into prize pool alone in a year. We're not at the level where we can do that yet, sorry." Fucking pathetic.

they dont owe you shit. Considering this is the very first nasl season, id say they have done a pretty good job. Sure there are a lot of things that need to be fixed, but overall i think the event is good
"The current situation is looking pretty grim" //////// "Randy, I am the liquor"
OblivionStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2010
United States43 Posts
July 09 2011 22:46 GMT
#488
Ok MC's entrance just put a smile on my face, even after all the bullshit.
cameronkrazie86
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States296 Posts
July 09 2011 22:47 GMT
#489
On July 10 2011 07:43 Xeris wrote:
The reason we're playing the intros today is because we had projection problems yesterday so the people in the building couldn't see. We wanted to give them a chance to see the videos



Thanks for clearing this up, that makes perfect sense.
"You come at the King, you best not miss." - Omar Little
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
July 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#490
On July 10 2011 07:43 Xeris wrote:
The reason we're playing the intros today is because we had projection problems yesterday so the people in the building couldn't see. We wanted to give them a chance to see the videos



Honestly, the lengths of the intro videos are the least of the NASL's hiccups. I actually think it's a good idea to give people a bit of a summary of the tournament if they haven't being following it.

It's not like the each video is half-hour or something.
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
July 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#491
On July 10 2011 07:45 Theberlinwall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 07:36 Dark Stalker wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:54 Xeris wrote:
Trust me, we listen to all constructive feedback. We've made strides of improvement throughout the season, and we will do so for this event... and all future events.

Anywho. It's been nice chatting with you guys! I hope you all enjoy the event today, we've been working quite hard all night and this morning to make some changes to make things better.



Not a single God damn apology from this guy except for: "GSL can afford to put 1+ million into prize pool alone in a year. We're not at the level where we can do that yet, sorry." Fucking pathetic.

they dont owe you shit. Considering this is the very first nasl season, id say they have done a pretty good job. Sure there are a lot of things that need to be fixed, but overall i think the event is good



Normally when you pay for something, the person you paid has a reasonable expectation to "owe you shit"
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#492
On July 10 2011 01:26 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 01:21 pieman819 wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:19 Xeris wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:18 aristarchus wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:12 Xeris wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:10 pieman819 wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:08 Xeris wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:06 pieman819 wrote:
On July 10 2011 00:57 Xeris wrote:
On July 10 2011 00:35 aristarchus wrote:
[quote]
No, 4 computers would be enough for a substantial speed increase. It means that the players for match 3 set up their equipment during match 2. That means less transition time. (Of course, that assumes that the player equipment setup was a limiting factor, and that there weren't other production issues that required a long wait anyway.) Yes, there will still be downtime, but it'd be substantially reduced. (Having 4 booths might not at all be reasonable expense-wise, but if you don't think it would give some speedup, you're not understanding something. And as long as it's just one match being played at a time, you don't really need a computer per player, just the 4 booths plus whatever warmup computers are needed off stage.)


4 computers wouldn't help. How do you envision this working?

2 sets of booths? What are we supposed to roll the first set of booths off the stage and roll on the next set right after so we can start immediately? Are we supposed to have 2 stages, each with booths so that we can just cut to the next stage? Do you have any idea how much it would cost to get a venue big enough and build 2 stages just for the purpose?

4 computers with 1 set of booths? We're supposed to take the first set of computers out of the booths (that takes probably 5-10 minutes), and set up another set of computers in the booths that have the next players' settings already set up? Do you have any idea how long that process would take. It would take even longer than what we do.

Did you watch Blizzcon? Were you there? Because they tried that and it didn't work.

[image loading]


Why not 4 booths on the one stage, seems to work great for GSL every day of the week


Because GSL is a multi-million dollar company that can afford to do that?


2 more booths than the 2 you already have is going to break your bank? doesn't sound like a sustainable business venture


GSL can afford to put 1+ million into prize pool alone in a year. We're not at the level where we can do that yet, sorry.


It's one thing if you just can't afford the two more booths. But what you said before is that they wouldn't help even if you had them... which is just wrong.


Given our stage layout, having 2 more booths wouldn't help. It would help if we had a bigger stage, but we don't.

Well what bout the fact that the players didn't start to setup their stuff until after all the preview videos were over, you could have knocked an hour or so off the cast if they were in there getting there settings done while that stuff was playing and it wouldn't have made the downtime seem as bad.


We had several lame problems later in the day, for example... Boxer accidentally hit the power cord with his foot and shut the computer off... MC wanted a long cord for his headphones, Moon mandated that he set his stuff up himself, aLive lost internet briefly on the computer because he accidentally unplugged the ethernet cable, DarkForcE was trying to install some very specific mouse driver and was having problems, White-Ra had a broken headphone and couldn't get sound so we had to change for a new one...

You guys don't know what goes on behind the scenes


Seems to me like most of that's the result of you guys using tiny port-a-potties for booths.
Gurblechev
Profile Joined May 2011
188 Posts
July 09 2011 22:56 GMT
#493
On July 10 2011 07:45 Theberlinwall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 07:36 Dark Stalker wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:54 Xeris wrote:
Trust me, we listen to all constructive feedback. We've made strides of improvement throughout the season, and we will do so for this event... and all future events.

Anywho. It's been nice chatting with you guys! I hope you all enjoy the event today, we've been working quite hard all night and this morning to make some changes to make things better.



Not a single God damn apology from this guy except for: "GSL can afford to put 1+ million into prize pool alone in a year. We're not at the level where we can do that yet, sorry." Fucking pathetic.

they dont owe you shit. Considering this is the very first nasl season, id say they have done a pretty good job. Sure there are a lot of things that need to be fixed, but overall i think the event is good

I don't really understand how this "it's their first season" excuse cuts it. This isn't new technology here. They could have easily hired an experienced crew who could have done a professional production without a drawn out learning phase.

Many of the problems are things they also struggled with during the prerecorded and edited regular season. Why haven't they gotten training or replaced their staff with people capable of doing their job in all that time?

I said this on a previous page but it bears repeating:

On July 10 2011 02:21 Gurblechev wrote:
The thing is, most companies have a product ready for market when they are asking money for it.

I find it strange that anyone would be willing to pay to watch people struggling with the very basics, when you could have just hired experienced and talented people from the start.

I don't pay someone to work on my car when they are not an auto mechanic with the expectation they will eventually learn how to be an auto mechanic by working on my car.

Dark Stalker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
102 Posts
July 09 2011 23:02 GMT
#494
On July 10 2011 07:45 Theberlinwall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 07:36 Dark Stalker wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:54 Xeris wrote:
Trust me, we listen to all constructive feedback. We've made strides of improvement throughout the season, and we will do so for this event... and all future events.

Anywho. It's been nice chatting with you guys! I hope you all enjoy the event today, we've been working quite hard all night and this morning to make some changes to make things better.



Not a single God damn apology from this guy except for: "GSL can afford to put 1+ million into prize pool alone in a year. We're not at the level where we can do that yet, sorry." Fucking pathetic.

they dont owe you shit. Considering this is the very first nasl season, id say they have done a pretty good job. Sure there are a lot of things that need to be fixed, but overall i think the event is good


Yes they do, they owe me $25. Did you pay for a season ticket?
Dark Stalker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
102 Posts
July 09 2011 23:04 GMT
#495
On July 10 2011 07:45 Theberlinwall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 07:36 Dark Stalker wrote:
On July 10 2011 01:54 Xeris wrote:
Trust me, we listen to all constructive feedback. We've made strides of improvement throughout the season, and we will do so for this event... and all future events.

Anywho. It's been nice chatting with you guys! I hope you all enjoy the event today, we've been working quite hard all night and this morning to make some changes to make things better.



Not a single God damn apology from this guy except for: "GSL can afford to put 1+ million into prize pool alone in a year. We're not at the level where we can do that yet, sorry." Fucking pathetic.

they dont owe you shit. Considering this is the very first nasl season, id say they have done a pretty good job. Sure there are a lot of things that need to be fixed, but overall i think the event is good


And if they had any consideration for the fans at all, they'd do what MLG did and have the balls to apologise for all the fuck-ups. Their attitude to the fuck-ups is what puts the nail in the coffin.
BadgerBadger8264
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 23:12:26
July 09 2011 23:04 GMT
#496
they dont owe you shit. Considering this is the very first nasl season, id say they have done a pretty good job. Sure there are a lot of things that need to be fixed, but overall i think the event is good

This would've been true for, say, TSL, because that's community organised and they don't charge money. This is not the case for this though.

I really dont understand why they keep letting gretorp cast, its like they feel bad for him if they dont give him any air time...

This. You don't let gold leaguers play in these large tournaments because it would massively detriment from the tournament quality, why do that for casters/production crew that are just as important to making a tournament enjoyable?
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 09 2011 23:05 GMT
#497
Good thing we have the 3 most popular english casters in the world here so that they can learn from gretorp
OblivionStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2010
United States43 Posts
July 09 2011 23:06 GMT
#498
On July 10 2011 08:05 425kid wrote:
Good thing we have the 3 most popular english casters in the world here so that they can learn from gretorp


Exactly why else would they have him casting every single game? XP
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
July 09 2011 23:07 GMT
#499
On July 10 2011 08:05 425kid wrote:
Good thing we have the 3 most popular english casters in the world here so that they can learn from gretorp


Rofl.

I dont understand the allocation of resources at all for this.
Getting TASTELESS to do 20 seconds of intro, for an intro.. and he's coem all the way from korea for this?
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
July 09 2011 23:08 GMT
#500
So the sound problems are still on today. They both suddenly sounded like they're in a huge warehouse with alot of echo, and mics keep being on when they shouldn't and off when they shouldn't.

The long breaks are a huge boner kill every time. If they necessarely are needed for some reason, make something happen. Make day9 and iNcontrol play 2v2 vs artosis and gretorp with tasteless commentating or something along those lines. Would be a crowd favourite for sure.

The fact that the players could see the casters screens during day1 was somewhat.. strange. But it seems to be fixed now, so gj.

Most of the issues seems to have been fixed in day 2 so awesome job there.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
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