EPTI have no idea who these people that play LoL or Halo are, I don't know anyone that plays them or maybe they're afraid to tell me.
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This isn't going to turn into another LoL vs (all other games apparently) thread. You can speak your mind about the selection of games but keep it civil. | ||
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Gurgl
Sweden308 Posts
I have no idea who these people that play LoL or Halo are, I don't know anyone that plays them or maybe they're afraid to tell me. | ||
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Pezo
England156 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
once again, hordes of casuals ruining esports nevertheless good to see 1.6 still | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On June 28 2011 06:25 Sakkreth wrote: Why LoL is considered good fit for esports at all ? It's soo casual... Why is SC2 considered good for ESPORTS? It's so casual compared to BW. Everything's dumbed down and all that... Fucking serious... | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On June 28 2011 06:10 danl9rm wrote: As someone who has played both, LoL is a joke of a game compared to QuakeLive. The game caters to noobs in every way conceivable. I was about to hit "post," but I will instead elaborate. From Dota -> League of Legends: Problem: meanie-head denies all my creeps leaving me way behind  Fix: No more denying creeps! You can now sit there like the noob you are and get full exp!Problem: I have to use the mini-map. Fix: You are now panned so far out you can see everything w/o it! Problem: I sometimes run out of mana. Fix: Spells now take next to no mana with insane mana regneration! Problem: Sometimes when I'm playing someone better than me, they combo me to death. Fix: It is now impossible to combo someone down from full health. Spells will do insignificant damage and they will have to cast a dozen of them on you to kill you. At 40% health, please retreat to base for healing. Problem: It seems no matter who I pick, my opponent can still beat me. Fix: Some characters are now drastically overpowered compared to others so you'll always have a chance against someone actually wanting to pick a different character! Problem: When I get low on health, people sometimes kill me. Fix: Now, when you get low on health, just leisurely walk back under the tower (with extended range!) and it will totally obliterate anyone who dare follow you! Now you can lane and shoot at creeps all day long! Yes, I hate that game. And if I had played it more recently, I'm sure I could point out 100 more things that they purposely put into that game, that dota had right, just to make it for noobs. UGH. Sorry Quakelive It's clear that you have no idea what you're talking about here. You sound exactly like every other noob whining about not getting any kills. There are legitimate grievances about the loss of QL for LoL, but we don't need you bringing this sort of crap to the table. | ||
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Saiton
Sweden467 Posts
On June 28 2011 06:34 Roffles wrote: Why is SC2 considered good for ESPORTS? It's so casual compared to BW. Everything's dumbed down and all that... Fucking serious... *Nostalgia goggles off* What's with the hate on SC2? You should be happy it's spreading across the world and across tournaments instead of complaining that it's "dumbed down". | ||
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velocityqt
121 Posts
On June 28 2011 06:34 Roffles wrote: Why is SC2 considered good for ESPORTS? It's so casual compared to BW. Everything's dumbed down and all that... Fucking serious... yet it actually requires decent motor skills unlike LoL where even mentaly retarded ape could be on the top User was warned for this post | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On June 28 2011 06:36 prOpSaiton wrote: *Nostalgia goggles off* What's with the hate on SC2? You should be happy it's spreading across the world and across tournaments instead of complaining that it's "dumbed down". It's just funny that SC2 people are making the exact same complaints about LoL that they were defending from BW players earlier. | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
On June 28 2011 06:36 prOpSaiton wrote: *Nostalgia goggles off* What's with the hate on SC2? You should be happy it's spreading across the world and across tournaments instead of complaining that it's "dumbed down". He's not hating on SC2, he's drawing the comparison for the sack of point out the inconsistency in the argument. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
But I guess the quake scene doesn't evolve too much anymore, always the same players for quite some time now, so I understand their decision. Nice prizepool anyway <3 edit : woot siege tank <3 | ||
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Makura
United States317 Posts
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ErrorNA
United States86 Posts
It is a disgrace to have that game in there. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
Whether or not you like LoL (I play on a tournament team) is absolutely irrelevant. You are looking at the situation from a narrow perspective. IEM looked at the dreamhack numbers and saw this: LoL doubled SC2's viewers. As a tournament with sponsors who want the most exposure possible; there is absolutely no choice. You simply must add LoL to your agenda. I mean, what would quake's numbers have been? 12k-25k? If LoL gets half of what it had at DH it is more than quadrupling the income and exposure that QL would have brought. Hell if it got half of what it had at DH it would match or beat SC2. Arguments aside for whether the game is good or not, people enjoy it and people watched it. More than watched SC2. If you don't respect that and you sit around saying that 200k ppl watching a game is bad for esports; then you, quite frankly, don't know what you're talking about and simply don't understand the business side of this. | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
On June 28 2011 05:19 ComusLoM wrote: Last I heard QL was completely dead, with the same players winning every single event. Basically LoL is huge and has the potential to be a competitive title with some tweaks such as ingame pauses etc. I don't understand the hate. I miss the old quake, back when it was good. Can't wait for live on three. Last i heard SC2 had no skill compared to BW. Its like this BW and QL are games that take skill,therefore the usual people win(FLash in BW, rapha in QL). You cannot cheese until the final like rain or others and beat players that are better then you. | ||
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Pezo
England156 Posts
On June 28 2011 06:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: It's just funny that SC2 people are making the exact same complaints about LoL that they were defending from BW players earlier. Lol this is the truth right here... i understand this is a SC community but when SC is doing well in Esports.. most people on here are like "Its helping Esports grow" but when LoL gets 200k viewers and gets into IEM..." O its a casual game!!!!... the viewing numbers were wrong etc Im not a massive LoL fan but it doesnt matter what you think of the game because obviously there are other people that do like it, so get over it | ||
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isM
United States735 Posts
You guys do realize that LoL maintained double the viewers of Starcraft 2's peak for the entire weekend right? The stream was not embedded in the client there was just a direct link in the client to go to it. Also don't we all hate on blizzard for not listening to the community enough? Meanwhile Riot is at the forefront of trying to push their game and make sure it can establish its self in a competitive environment. Sure it might be a generally casual game and the skill cap isn't outstanding like other games, that doesn't change the fact that it draws a ton of interest. Interest also entices sponsors and sponsors make these events possible. Please step down off your high team liquid horse and accept QL has been dying for a long time now. It is sad to see it go but clinging to the past does not further anything. Love, isM | ||
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mYNDIG
Norway179 Posts
LoL is good for eSport in every way! Deal with it! It might be easier, but in the end it gets more people involved in eSport, and in the end those people might find out about games like DotA/HoN or other types of games that require more skill. Btw, no idea how much skill LoL requires, just stating that LoL IS FUCKING GOOD FOR ESPORT! | ||
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calippo
Sweden2525 Posts
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
first eswc cuts it and now this. are you trying to kill the community? the people want quake! | ||
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