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stOrpse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States175 Posts
June 25 2011 22:49 GMT
#161
If you didn't capitalize so much people wouldn't treat you like a small child...
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
June 25 2011 22:50 GMT
#162
The fact is that it's easier for everyone involved (except you) to not have to deal with younger kids on their teams, in their tournaments etc. Nobody really cares whether or not it's fair, because it's not like they're missing out on anything by denying underage kids from participating in their events.
=O
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
June 25 2011 22:58 GMT
#163
On June 26 2011 07:45 Darclite wrote:
But shouldn't this be determined by his actual personality than some vague stereotype about 13 year olds?


I dunno, should I have had to pay more for my insurance when I was younger because I was male and single? Why didn't they care about my personality and responsibility?

Best thing the OP can do is just take the time and prove that he's not the typical 13 yo. Will that take longer than the avg 18 yo? Yes. Is that fair? Life isn't fair, that's probably the best thing the OP can learn from this. Don't expect people to hand you anything in life, because they won't.

(coming from someone 3x the age of the OP)
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shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
June 25 2011 23:01 GMT
#164
I personally find little kids annoying and hate training with them but tournament wise its in use for different reasons such as many others have said.
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
June 25 2011 23:02 GMT
#165
As an adult and father of two I fully support you in your aspirations, OP. I'm sure part of what you're running into is not "hate"' but well-meaning adults who are concerned about the legal responsibility for your activities & well being. However if 13-year-olds can compete professionally in tennis & gymnastics, no reason they shouldn't be able to compete in Starcraft. It's a heck of a lot more healthy than some of the other things teenagers do. Just keep your grades up! ;-).
War is a drug.
Goobus
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:04:42
June 25 2011 23:04 GMT
#166
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Liquid`EliGE
Profile Joined October 2010
United States527 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:13:40
June 25 2011 23:10 GMT
#167
I definitely support for it to be equal, but it does not matter too much if you are only playing online tournaments and such. I mean, I am young and I play Counter Strike 1.6 competitively on ESEA and the other people on my teams usually don't care about my age because I am good enough for them to not care. So my advice for you, is to just get good enough so it doesn't really matter what your age is. Make them want you to play for them just for exposure and such.

This would take a while to do (for you to get good enough for this to happen), but if you really want it to be fair and such, just do what Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert did and Pokebunny did so it just does not matter your age at all.

Edit: And by "not matter your age at all," I mean generally. It could matter for some things, but you can be an exception and such.
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Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:18:39
June 25 2011 23:11 GMT
#168
On June 26 2011 07:58 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 07:45 Darclite wrote:
But shouldn't this be determined by his actual personality than some vague stereotype about 13 year olds?


I dunno, should I have had to pay more for my insurance when I was younger because I was male and single? Why didn't they care about my personality and responsibility?


So playing a computer game = paying for insurance. Got it.

If you read my posts I said that I realize why legal and financial issues matter, I just didn't see why everyone felt he was too immature and wanted to attack his personality (I don't see how maturity affects your Starcraft skill level).
They're fools. You should eat them.
Prevolved
Profile Joined March 2011
United States573 Posts
June 25 2011 23:14 GMT
#169
I'm noticing a trend with the younger players that are in masters or above... they seem to be mostly Terran. hmmmmmm
Know thyself.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
June 25 2011 23:17 GMT
#170
The issue with having a 13-year old is that parents decide what you can and can't do, not you. They demand you shut down and stop playing? You have to do it. They demand you stop playing for two weeks due to school? You have to do it.

After running some fairly decent WoW guilds i can say that anyone still in school living at home can't really be trusted with keeping to times or staying online for set amounts of time.

Also no 13-year old boy is mature, however well written you are on forums.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:19:34
June 25 2011 23:17 GMT
#171
On June 26 2011 08:14 Prevolved wrote:
I'm noticing a trend with the younger players that are in masters or above... they seem to be mostly Terran. hmmmmmm


Only ones with enough free time to master it, just like the Koreans and their sick practice schedules?

Also, karpo sums it up pretty well, just because you're in masters league doesnt mean I'd see you any way different, you're still a kid along with the immaturity that comes with it (along with not thinking that you're immature at all!!1one)
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:23:59
June 25 2011 23:18 GMT
#172
sorry - delete
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:23:51
June 25 2011 23:20 GMT
#173
sorry - delete
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:23:40
June 25 2011 23:21 GMT
#174
On June 26 2011 08:20 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 08:18 OutlaW- wrote:
hai guis im 9 years old n i wanna join mouz wat i do? i no enter tournaments because my mother no allow pls help i want fix my problem im grandmaster so.. yeah ^_^

really? you're so good with only 9? im so jealous, you should definitely keep on playing, good luck in the future! im so jealous, if i were your age id just play nonstop

edit: ok, i admit it. I'm a jelaous fuck whose life is drifting apart after entering early adulthood with no idea what to do, and not enough motivation to keep playing. My point is, if you just keep on playing, you will eventually be good. Ignore the troll above, and learn from my mistakes, I didn't find enough motivation after I was stuck at high masters, now I rarely play. Good luck, kids!
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
June 25 2011 23:25 GMT
#175
On June 26 2011 04:49 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 04:35 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
The points about legality are understandable. The "[most] younger kids are annoying/immature" is just a bad generalization, though. People mistake two different conceptions of maturity which justify this incorrect mindset. Maturity refers to either biological maturity or maturity of character. The former is one people associate the term with, so they automatically assume that the latter is contingent upon that physical age. The problem is that maturity of character actually refers to things like responsibility and things like tact, which most teenagers should have developed. Psychological science, for instance, determines that the human brain develops proper judgment capacity at around 12-14 years of age. Another problem is that there is no clear line in the sand between "an immature kid" and a mature one, so the generalization of all "young kids" fails once again. It's arbitrary to claim that an 18 year old is suddenly more mannered than a 17 year old, and it's just as arbitrary to claim that divide between 2 years of age and so on. The only proper distinction is one of legality.


You obviously haven't been around many teenagers, or at least don't have the perspective of an older person looking at them. Most people don't gain any true maturity until they've gotten real world experience, either after high school or college, when they have to support themeselves. I would say that there is a pretty hard line that defines mature or immature. it is; "if this kind had to fend for him/herself for a few months, would he or she have the necessary skills to find a job, keep up on basic responsibilities such as paying the bills, maintaining a healthy diet, being reliable at work and elsewhere, etc. If people are confident that you can do that, than you are mature. If not, you're immature. I would say that pretty much everyone under 16 couldn't do that, both because of character flaws, and because of the current laws and society. Those who can are the clear exception, not the rule.

Furthermore, I would say that about half of my peers (i'm 20, most of my friends are 19-25) would not fall under that definition of mature, and I don't think that is very uncommon. immature people are obviously a huge liability for many reasons that have already been stated, and I know that all managers would treat immature people the same, whether they are 13 or 30. The only difference is that if you are younger, you are expected to be immature, which is normal, but that means you just have to work harder to prove otherwise. A mature person would be able to see this, and would understand why this is the case and act accordingly.


You haven't read my post closely enough. Most of the issues about "real world experience" equate to legal boundaries, "basic responsibilities such as paying bills." More importantly though, my second point already directly addresses this: when you say "I would say that about half of my peers (i'm 20, most of my friends are 19-25) would not fall under that definition of mature" that is the exact issue, since people are blaming this immaturity arbitrarily on people under 18 when that identification of this specific age range as "immature" doesn't make any sense when it's just as applicable to 18, 19, and 20 year-olds - it's arbitrary to make that categorical claim on age, so an individualistic basis is the only reasonable one.
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holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
June 25 2011 23:28 GMT
#176
On June 26 2011 08:21 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 08:20 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 26 2011 08:18 OutlaW- wrote:
hai guis im 9 years old n i wanna join mouz wat i do? i no enter tournaments because my mother no allow pls help i want fix my problem im grandmaster so.. yeah ^_^

really? you're so good with only 9? im so jealous, you should definitely keep on playing, good luck in the future! im so jealous, if i were your age id just play nonstop

edit: ok, i admit it. I'm a jelaous fuck whose life is drifting apart after entering early adulthood with no idea what to do, and not enough motivation to keep playing. My point is, if you just keep on playing, you will eventually be good. Ignore the troll above, and learn from my mistakes, I didn't find enough motivation after I was stuck at high masters, now I rarely play. Good luck, kids!


Did you mean to log on to a different account or something? I think I missed what you were trying to do there.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 25 2011 23:30 GMT
#177
On June 26 2011 08:28 holynorth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 08:21 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 26 2011 08:20 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 26 2011 08:18 OutlaW- wrote:
hai guis im 9 years old n i wanna join mouz wat i do? i no enter tournaments because my mother no allow pls help i want fix my problem im grandmaster so.. yeah ^_^

really? you're so good with only 9? im so jealous, you should definitely keep on playing, good luck in the future! im so jealous, if i were your age id just play nonstop

edit: ok, i admit it. I'm a jelaous fuck whose life is drifting apart after entering early adulthood with no idea what to do, and not enough motivation to keep playing. My point is, if you just keep on playing, you will eventually be good. Ignore the troll above, and learn from my mistakes, I didn't find enough motivation after I was stuck at high masters, now I rarely play. Good luck, kids!


Did you mean to log on to a different account or something? I think I missed what you were trying to do there.

all those posts were written by me, 3 in a row, trying to hate on kids, but i saw through my hatred and apologized, kept the quote for reference
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
June 25 2011 23:30 GMT
#178
how do admins know if youre 13 or not? I'm assuming the SC account is in your parents name right? (can't see how u could have a debit card at 13...but i guess you could)

Is it like when you go the movies when you're 14 and try and get a U12 ticket. "how old are you kid?", "12!", "ok".

Was Pokebunny broadcasting his youth before he was a proven talent??
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
June 25 2011 23:31 GMT
#179
I'm pretty sure the restrictions of age are for legal issues rather than maturity issues. Tournaments with prize money involved have to have themselves covered legally, and it's probably easier to restrict the age to legal adults.
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 23:36:22
June 25 2011 23:35 GMT
#180
You can't legally contract, so you can't actually join a team unless the team decides to legally fulfill obligations one-way and run the risk of not being able to reap the benefits.

I don't know why people are unwilling to practise with you. It's probably a mix of prejudice and jealousy and a bit of humiliation sprinkled in.
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