EPTTournaments and team organizers need to realize that video games are for kids too. I mean sheesh, does anyone remember the Nintendo World Championship of 1990? Video games, particularly ESPORTS, are a talent for people of all ages.
Why do kids get the hate? - Page 12
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
Tournaments and team organizers need to realize that video games are for kids too. I mean sheesh, does anyone remember the Nintendo World Championship of 1990? Video games, particularly ESPORTS, are a talent for people of all ages. | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On June 26 2011 11:12 Tump wrote: I think it's dumb that there are good players out there unable to bring their talent full circle because they can't participate in tournaments and cups to get the experience needed. If Flash couldn't play a tournament before he was 18, would he had still won a Starleague? No, he probably wouldn't of bothered with the damn game. Tournaments and team organizers need to realize that video games are for kids too. I mean sheesh, does anyone remember the Nintendo World Championship of 1990? Video games, particularly ESPORTS, are a talent for people of all ages. well, anyone can participate in an mlg. if he can't make it to an mlg that's his problem. also, if he has so much free time, why isn't he in gm? | ||
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opaque
Russian Federation89 Posts
On June 26 2011 11:02 Oreo7 wrote: The condescension in this thread is painful. I respect some of the arguments presented, notably the legal issues, but the whole "I'm older therefore smarter" argument is painful. Stupid people can be 22. Smart people can be 13. All I see in this thread are a bunch of mid 20 year old guys talking so condescendingly to their past selves and talking about how "mature" they are now. Different people mature at different times. Some people never mature. It's time we stop judging people based on their age and find out whether they're mature or not on a case by case basis esp. when they have some level of skill or talent, as OP does. Maturity != Intelligence A thing I forgot to mention earlier. I don't understand why it is so hard for you to join a team. You are not good enough to be signing any contracts for a pro team anyway, there shouldn't be any random legal issues. The only reason for you to be on a team is for practice partners. Develop your social skills (on the Internets!) and find people that want the same as you: improving as a player. The responses that you posted in this thread also greatly contradict the OP in terms of your maturity. The OP was actually not badly written and thought out. Your responses to other people in this thread have been spontaneous and defensive, indicative of your age. The type of image you created can be summed up by this sentence: "I am awesome in SC2, my parents are rich, and I took he SAT in 6th grade." Needless to say, that is not how you want to come off. You don't need to play in many tournaments to develop as a player. Day9 was a recluse that barely played any tournaments in BW, but when he did, he came prepared from countless of practice hours. You need to realize your options and continue playing to become a better player. | ||
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coreydota
United States180 Posts
4 years later and now I realize there are many aspects to maturity that you simply can't have at 13 being smart and talking in perfect grammar does not mean you are mature - intelligence and maturity are on two opposite sides of the spectrum if you're living on your own and supporting yourself at age 13 that's a different story, but i highly doubt that anyways, keep on keepin on, i'm sure there are some tournaments that will accept you | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
don't drown in it, just swim out of it as you age its no big deal | ||
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piegasm
United States266 Posts
I had a 15 yr old in my WoW guild. He was a good player and a good kid with the best intentions of being reliable. However, he would regularly hold the raid up for 20 minutes or more because his father would demand he go walk the dog or whatever. However much you claim otherwise, at 13 your time is most definitely not your own. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
Everyone knows that there are kids like yourself who are mature beyond their age. However, its not worth dealing with the vast majority who aren't mature, just on the off chance of picking up a mature and responsible one. | ||
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OneStepAbove
United States45 Posts
On June 26 2011 11:17 opaque wrote: Maturity != Intelligence A thing I forgot to mention earlier. I don't understand why it is so hard for you to join a team. You are not good enough to be signing any contracts for a pro team anyway, there shouldn't be any random legal issues. The only reason for you to be on a team is for practice partners. Develop your social skills (on the Internets!) and find people that want the same as you: improving as a player. The responses that you posted in this thread also greatly contradict the OP in terms of your maturity. The OP was actually not badly written and thought out. Your responses to other people in this thread have been spontaneous and defensive, indicative of your age. The type of image you created can be summed up by this sentence: "I am awesome in SC2, my parents are rich, and I took he SAT in 6th grade." Needless to say, that is not how you want to come off. You don't need to play in many tournaments to develop as a player. Day9 was a recluse that barely played any tournaments in BW, but when he did, he came prepared from countless of practice hours. You need to realize your options and continue playing to become a better player. And nobody wants to be friends with that kid. Hopefully you learn this sooner rather than later. Best of luck. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
Do you realize what kind of commitment you're making in joining a team? Countries outside of Korea are starting to realize just how much practice and dedication it takes to get to top levels at this game, can you come home from school and play till 2-3 am just about every day? It'd be different if you were high in GM or something, in which case people could say, "Okay, he's obviously extremely talented, we can take the risk here". But you're not. And as a last bit of advice, I know that being a 1400 masters Terran at 13 may seem cool to you, but life hits you hard, fast. All this time you must be spending on SC2 at your age is really limiting the sheer amount of other things you could be exploring and having fun with. I wish I could go back to being 13 and NOT spend as much time gaming as I did, but good luck to you in your endeavors. You may think you're mature, but you aren't. Nobody is mature at 13. As for tournaments, just compete in online ones. You don't have to speak at all... lol. If you can get to GM, high GM, and place good in online tournaments, your opportunities will come when they come. Don't be in a hurry. It takes years upon years to become a pro. | ||
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Lunchador
United States776 Posts
On June 26 2011 11:12 Tump wrote: I think it's dumb that there are good players out there unable to bring their talent full circle because they can't participate in tournaments and cups to get the experience needed. If Flash couldn't play a tournament before he was 18, would he had still won a Starleague? No, he probably wouldn't of bothered with the damn game. Tournaments and team organizers need to realize that video games are for kids too. I mean sheesh, does anyone remember the Nintendo World Championship of 1990? Video games, particularly ESPORTS, are a talent for people of all ages. You, who lives in the USA, should already know this: Anyone can get sued for anything without a justifiable reason. That is why every event, organization, job signing, etc. has over nine thousand legal stuffs that you have to agree to before going onboard. | ||
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Ruscour
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hatt
United States2 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil_Poison http://lilpoison.com/biography.html He was literally playing in national tournaments at the age of 5 and was 4 when he started local tournaments. Edit: Oh and the game he plays is rated M, those are guidelines or he still wouldn't be able to play it for 4 years... | ||
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Th1rdEye
United States1074 Posts
Rules are rules. Are you going to go to the DMV and say "Why can't I drive before 16!?" | ||
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
On June 26 2011 11:47 Flonomenalz wrote: Umm.... no offense, but 1400 masters doesn't seem to warrant what you are asking for. There are thousands of people that are better than you out there that aren't binded to such things as school, parents, puberty... and therefore are much less of a risk. Do you realize what kind of commitment you're making in joining a team? Countries outside of Korea are starting to realize just how much practice and dedication it takes to get to top levels at this game, can you come home from school and play till 2-3 am just about every day? It'd be different if you were high in GM or something, in which case people could say, "Okay, he's obviously extremely talented, we can take the risk here". But you're not. And as a last bit of advice, I know that being a 1400 masters Terran at 13 may seem cool to you, but life hits you hard, fast. All this time you must be spending on SC2 at your age is really limiting the sheer amount of other things you could be exploring and having fun with. I wish I could go back to being 13 and NOT spend as much time gaming as I did, but good luck to you in your endeavors. You may think you're mature, but you aren't. Nobody is mature at 13. As for tournaments, just compete in online ones. You don't have to speak at all... lol. If you can get to GM, high GM, and place good in online tournaments, your opportunities will come when they come. Don't be in a hurry. It takes years upon years to become a pro. I wish i had brought an umbrella, because it's raining cold, hard facts up in here. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On June 26 2011 06:53 ThePurist wrote: Crystal does have a genuine point. It's great that you changed your attitude on manner, but your reply shows immaturity (at least to me): "you have probably made thousands of more mistakes seeing as how you are much older than me" No need to be so defensive... it wasn't a malicious comment imo. Um, honestly I don't think that was an immature reply. That's how things work. People makes lots of mistakes. Every single person. As age increases, the number of mistakes increase. I don't think he was intending disrespect by that. However, I know how it feels for you at 13 - the adult world is in control of everything and "kids" are not allowed to do much of the same activities (for legal or other reasons). There are real reasons for this though. When I was 13, I was quite a few grade levels ahead in math/science/etc. However, compared to what I know now, I was stupid. I'm still stupid but I have a better understanding of life, emotions, and socialization. While intellectual maturity can happen before it does in most people, emotional and social maturity is EXTREMELY rare in any teenager. I know that if somebody told me this when I was a teenager I would have claimed they were false and went off on some huge logical argument, but I now know it to be true. I would give anything in the world to know what I know right now and turn back to the clock to do my life from 13 up over again. But that isn't the way things work. Everyone has to learn for themselves and other people telling them what not to do rarely helps. | ||
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chuigo
Australia93 Posts
On the other hand, he's got a contract. More then one, actually, considering he was in ROOT before sixjax. Idk why other 14 y/o haven't been picked up seeing as that little idiot did. | ||
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Telephan
United States10 Posts
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Battousai13
United States638 Posts
On June 26 2011 13:55 chuigo wrote: One person in the SC2 community that is a prime example of why children are shunned is sixjax.Major. He's 14 or sommet, he's a complete douche and struggles to show respect to anyone. On the other hand, he's got a contract. More then one, actually, considering he was in ROOT before sixjax. Idk why other 14 y/o haven't been picked up seeing as that little idiot did. sixjax.MajOr is also ridiculously talented. Teams have deemed him worth the risk and liability. His abilities outweighed his BM. | ||
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2plusthree
Russian Federation43 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 26 2011 03:55 Nagisa. wrote: I'll leave you with the, Why do kids get the hate? question that I started it all off with. 13 year olds have a reputation for being flakey. Which is fine. You're 13. You're supposed to be flakey and get away with shit. I'm 32 and I'm having trouble getting the 50+ crowd to take me seriously. Never changes ... | ||
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