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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 30 2011 08:20 GMT
#1061
The first thing that came to my mind was...

WTF this would have never been a problem if there was the possibility of free name change. Because Blizz wasn't worried about the sharing "in general" but about the "we show the sharing on stream for thousands of viewers". Nobody would have even had a clue if it was "LiquidHuK" playing all along...
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
June 30 2011 08:59 GMT
#1062
Hahaha, nice one Blizzard. I don't understand what the fuck is Blizz's problem. Both the accounts have been paid for, and the owners should be free to do whatever they want to with them.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 09:05:49
June 30 2011 09:05 GMT
#1063
On June 30 2011 17:59 3772 wrote:
Hahaha, nice one Blizzard. I don't understand what the fuck is Blizz's problem. Both the accounts have been paid for, and the owners should be free to do whatever they want to with them.

Not true, you accepted the terms of yawnyawnyawn and therefore you can be punished if you don't respect them. But Blizzard is not to blame here, they "allow" shared accounts. But they don't like it when you show 10 000 people that you are breaking the rules.
I had a good night of sleep.
enecateReAP
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom378 Posts
June 30 2011 09:08 GMT
#1064
Nada and one of his teammates shared an account for the NASL qualifiers, did they warn them?
I doubt it.
"Stargate units imba" - oGsMC
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
June 30 2011 09:09 GMT
#1065
On June 29 2011 15:32 MaxiTB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 06:57 Spacedude wrote:
But I don't actually think the TOS is valid in Denmark because I don't actually sign the TOS when I buy the game. I don't think it should be, anyway. It's just wrong.


This is actually true for most European countries. The contract details had to be known in full before payment or it is invalid. That's the reason why in Austria/Germany EULAs and similar stuff is a one click ignore thing. It's a customer protection mechanism against fraud and it's good that way.


No. Just no!
Please we discussed the legal terms at length earlier in this thread, do not start to spread those missleading half-truths again. You are wrong.

The reason why most people regard EULAs as a "one-click-ignore" thing, is because they can't be bothered to read them and most of what is written in them is common sense anyway. The specific clause they are being warned about is common sense and standard fare for such agreements, meaning you should expect a similar clause to be part of the EULA/TOS even BEFORE you buy the game.

If you want to argue this point some more please read : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236979&currentpage=29#575 first.
Proxyles
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden27 Posts
June 30 2011 09:12 GMT
#1066
Does not the GSTL games play between accounts named as the teams name?

So all that participate in the GSTL account share in televised matches?

Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 30 2011 09:14 GMT
#1067
On June 30 2011 18:12 Proxyles wrote:
Does not the GSTL games play between accounts named as the teams name?
So all that participate in the GSTL account share in televised matches?

Tournaments get clearance from Blizzard to do this. I think it is probably all mentioned in the contract which allows tournaments to use Starcraft II.
I had a good night of sleep.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 30 2011 09:17 GMT
#1068
On June 30 2011 18:09 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 15:32 MaxiTB wrote:
On June 27 2011 06:57 Spacedude wrote:
But I don't actually think the TOS is valid in Denmark because I don't actually sign the TOS when I buy the game. I don't think it should be, anyway. It's just wrong.


This is actually true for most European countries. The contract details had to be known in full before payment or it is invalid. That's the reason why in Austria/Germany EULAs and similar stuff is a one click ignore thing. It's a customer protection mechanism against fraud and it's good that way.


No. Just no!
Please we discussed the legal terms at length earlier in this thread, do not start to spread those missleading half-truths again. You are wrong.

The reason why most people regard EULAs as a "one-click-ignore" thing, is because they can't be bothered to read them and most of what is written in them is common sense anyway. The specific clause they are being warned about is common sense and standard fare for such agreements, meaning you should expect a similar clause to be part of the EULA/TOS even BEFORE you buy the game.

If you want to argue this point some more please read : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236979&currentpage=29#575 first.


I also studied Law in Austria and actually I disagree with most of what you've said.....I don't know much about this kind of things, but you do, in fact, have to know about the EULA before you conclude the contract. Then again, I guess it says so somewhere on the box/etc.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
June 30 2011 09:40 GMT
#1069
On June 30 2011 18:17 sleepingdog wrote:
I also studied Law in Austria and actually I disagree with most of what you've said.....I don't know much about this kind of things, but you do, in fact, have to know about the EULA before you conclude the contract. Then again, I guess it says so somewhere on the box/etc.


I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I'm pretty sure the EC position on these agreements is to allow them and to consider them binding as long as there's a right to get a full refund after reading the agreement but before using the software.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
June 30 2011 09:47 GMT
#1070
apparently, it says in the op that this isn't supposed to be another blizzard hate thread, and i generally like blizzard, and no lan and shit like that is just whatever, but fuck them up their asses to try and nazi these players like that.

Honestly, i'm sure that there's some reason they do this i haven't thought of, but any reason to geta angry at the players for this is fucking stupid ,,I,, blizz. stfu
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 30 2011 09:53 GMT
#1071
On June 30 2011 18:40 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 18:17 sleepingdog wrote:
I also studied Law in Austria and actually I disagree with most of what you've said.....I don't know much about this kind of things, but you do, in fact, have to know about the EULA before you conclude the contract. Then again, I guess it says so somewhere on the box/etc.


I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I'm pretty sure the EC position on these agreements is to allow them and to consider them binding as long as there's a right to get a full refund after reading the agreement but before using the software.


I have to say here, I'm not a "lawyer" but a "legal scholar" at the university...which means, I don't really care as much about how things are handled, but about the underlying dogmatics. Meaning, if this is indeed lawful, regardless of what others might or might not think.

Here, we have to distinguish between the content of the EULA and the question if the contract even contains the EULA. Meaning, say I'm selling you my car and when you take place you find 200 pages of additional agreements on the driver's seat that stipulate all kinds of stuff. Obviously you can lit these 200 papers on fire, we never agreed on any of that. Regradless if the actual content of the 200 papers made sense or not.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
June 30 2011 09:57 GMT
#1072
i think pros should be allowed to share accounts because they basicly market the game for blizzard
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#1073
On June 30 2011 18:09 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2011 15:32 MaxiTB wrote:
On June 27 2011 06:57 Spacedude wrote:
But I don't actually think the TOS is valid in Denmark because I don't actually sign the TOS when I buy the game. I don't think it should be, anyway. It's just wrong.


This is actually true for most European countries. The contract details had to be known in full before payment or it is invalid. That's the reason why in Austria/Germany EULAs and similar stuff is a one click ignore thing. It's a customer protection mechanism against fraud and it's good that way.


No. Just no!
Please we discussed the legal terms at length earlier in this thread, do not start to spread those missleading half-truths again. You are wrong.

The reason why most people regard EULAs as a "one-click-ignore" thing, is because they can't be bothered to read them and most of what is written in them is common sense anyway. The specific clause they are being warned about is common sense and standard fare for such agreements, meaning you should expect a similar clause to be part of the EULA/TOS even BEFORE you buy the game.

If you want to argue this point some more please read : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236979&currentpage=29#575 first.

It's true though, many european countries don't really put any legality in TOS/EULA. However, that doesn't stop blizzard from banning your account if you break it.
Batch
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden692 Posts
June 30 2011 10:31 GMT
#1074
Has anyone got any proof that point towards it actually was Blizzard who made the call? A lot of people gladly throw their shit at Blizzard without even thinking about it.

If I start a thread about iNcontroL eating babies will people then throw their hate against him?
On June 25 2011 07:13 Batch wrote:
Why do everyone blindly believe it really was Blizzard who called? I'm quite sure it just was someone trolling.

A big gaming company like Blizzard don't spend the time searching for the phone number and calling the host of a small german LAN competition to tell him that one of the players should stop using another players account.
If they would do anything then they would send an email to TLOs battle.net 2.0 registered email adress and ask him to stop sharing his account.

aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 30 2011 10:36 GMT
#1075
Blizzard needs to fix their system so we can play on any region, stupid upgrade to battlenet 1.0
FlashDave.999 aka Star
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 10:37:34
June 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#1076
On June 30 2011 19:31 Batch wrote:
Has anyone got any proof that point towards it actually was Blizzard who made the call? A lot of people gladly throw their shit at Blizzard without even thinking about it.

If I start a thread about iNcontroL eating babies will people then throw their hate against him?
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 07:13 Batch wrote:
Why do everyone blindly believe it really was Blizzard who called? I'm quite sure it just was someone trolling.

A big gaming company like Blizzard don't spend the time searching for the phone number and calling the host of a small german LAN competition to tell him that one of the players should stop using another players account.
If they would do anything then they would send an email to TLOs battle.net 2.0 registered email adress and ask him to stop sharing his account.



If it wasn't Blizzard calling, then they surely would've called later saying that this wasn't them so people stop hating.

Some common sense people...
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 30 2011 10:39 GMT
#1077
On June 30 2011 18:05 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2011 17:59 3772 wrote:
Hahaha, nice one Blizzard. I don't understand what the fuck is Blizz's problem. Both the accounts have been paid for, and the owners should be free to do whatever they want to with them.

Not true, you accepted the terms of yawnyawnyawn and therefore you can be punished if you don't respect them. But Blizzard is not to blame here, they "allow" shared accounts. But they don't like it when you show 10 000 people that you are breaking the rules.


He said it should be not that it is. Which I agree with.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
June 30 2011 10:51 GMT
#1078
Blizzard wasn't in the wrong here, but I do hope that they fixed Huk's MMR.
I drop suckas like Plinko
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 30 2011 10:54 GMT
#1079
On June 30 2011 19:51 Gann1 wrote:
Blizzard wasn't in the wrong here, but I do hope that they fixed Huk's MMR.


I find it actually unbelievable that they made the same mistake as in wc3...MMR should always be capped relative to the MMR of the other topranked players. It shouldn't even be possible in theory to have such high MMR that the matchmaking doesn't work any more. Pretty big fail on the programming part, tbh.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
June 30 2011 10:57 GMT
#1080
and what about the fact that the battle.net website is actually illegal in france, because you can't change your actual name on it? in france you MUST have the right to change EVERY piece of information you gave to a website.
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