iNcontroL leaves NASL - Page 33

On June 25 2011 11:15 godemperor wrote:

Also HSC is fucking awesome, you get to see the personalities behind the players. This is something NASL promised but never delivered.

On June 26 2011 03:11 floor exercise wrote:


Your overtly hostile tone had me torn between reporting your post or responding with equal malice, but I will try to take the higher road.

My experience in coaching is admittedly lacking, I once ironically pretended to coach an indoor soccer team comprised of high school friends. I would wear a sportscoat and bring an old briefcase I found in my basement, riddled with BB gun pellets from target practice as a child. Our team was awful and we were expelled from the league for starting fights. As coach the failure was entirely mine, I taught virtually nothing and didn't really do that well in the fights either. Though bards often frequented this particular indoor sports dome, none would sing of my heroic deeds in the many battle royals that occurred on that astroturf.

On professional video gaming, I was a Big Deal in the 2v2v2v2 BGH scene on US east. My friends and I were incredibly good at Team Micro Arena as well, and to this day I believe we influenced the meta game with our infested terran usage.

You're right, I don't exactly know the struggle of coaching games in North America. I am swayed by your post however, I never once even considered how difficult it could be trying to convince people to give you money in exchange for lessons on how to play a game marginally well. Somewhere in some unmarked grave lies the corpse of an immigrant whose sole pliable trade when he landed on Ellis Island was his impeccable Ball and Cup skills. I can only imagine the scorn he likely had to endure as he struggled to make a living doing what he loved. Somewhere below my shriveled heart a knot tightens in my stomach just thinking of him.

On the subject of my professional career I am a licensed securities dealer and agent in Canada (but not Quebec) I have worked for myself, others and no one. I have written business plans but I have never started my own business. Unless you consider the time in 5th grade we would steal from the convenience store my schoolmate's parents ran and sold their candy at a reduced rate in the schoolyard. Although usually I find "Please Bitch" irresistible I find it best to publish as little about your personal life as possible and I hope you can respect that.

The first girl I asked out was in 7th grade. It seems so long ago now. It was in wood shop, I threw a note at her. She shared it with her friend, along with a giggle. I was crushed, with no one to share that feeling with but all of you which explains why I am such a bitter, angry asshole. I tried once more when I asked her to the school dance. She said she's going with friends but she'd "see me there". She'd certainly see me, it's hard to miss the person you're pointing and laughing at. Since then I'd have my ups and downs with women and most people do as they learn to live and love. We're really straying from the point of this thread though. It's cool that you took an interest in me though :D

On June 26 2011 06:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:




I guess you chose to ignore some content in my earlier post so I'll amplify my point for clarity.

During a very slickly produced interview with IGN regarding the IPL league Incontrol stated "I'm starting to start my own league" during his apology relating to restreaming GSL. Ironically, he makes this statement right after the interviewer warns him everything he says gets placed under a microscope. With this context set up by the interviewer it is interesting Mr. Robinson chose to accept the ownership role of the new league in his comment.
Here Is the IGN IPL Interview - Note Its Date

This is why I believed Incontrol's involvement consisted of more than just being "a contract employee" as stated by an earlier poster.

On June 26 2011 10:14 Defacer wrote:
Alright sir, I have watched this interview, and yes, he does say, "I'm trying to start my own league."
Again though, I think you're reading too much into it. As part of a complicated answer regarding the mistakes he's made, he could have easily misspoken, and meant, "I'm currently involved in the creation of a new league."
Geoff may just be taking ownership of it, the way all good team players take ownership of team goals.
For example, I'm managing the design and construction of the park right now. I could easily imagine someone asking me how I was doing, and me responding, "Going insane. Still trying to get my park built."

On June 26 2011 11:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:


nice long winded giant stretch..... but hey its entertaining if nothing else.
it becomes harder to make that stretch because of context.

but let's follow this stretch because you are trying hard!

if this is the case then the previous posters comment that Mr. Robinson is some far off arm's length parrot repeating whatever company line they feed him IS INCORRECT. Mr. Robinson is then an active participant in the NASL.

Therefore, the promise of 3 seasons and $400,000 in prize money comes to us not from a paid actor reciting voice lines by rote but an active integral member of the NASL team.

With the laundry list of past issues (already acknowledged in this thread) it is up to Mr. Robinson to perform due diligence in verifying the content of any NASL announcements he made.

With Mr. Robinson's acknowledged poor track record of judgement previous co-workers in projects
(Louder with GosuCoaching ; MysteryMan with GosuGuide, etc etc etc). The lack of a major hardware manufacturer sponsor. The volatility in NASL so far. I believe it is reasonable for me to be skeptical about the promise of 3 seasons and $400,000 in prize money.

Notice I did not say Mr. Robinson is a bank robber about to take down Chase-Manhatten Bank on 40th street. All i said was that it is reasonable to be skeptical.

With this healthy skepticism in mind let's find out if 3 seasons and $400,000 in prize money is still on the table or if this has changed. Let's add this question as well.

As we already know.. a great deal about NASL has changed since mid-April and therefore it is reasonable to ask the above question as well.

So I'll add some bold type for a similar dramatic effect as in your post.
Are 3 Seasons with $400,000 In Prize Money Still On The Schedule or has this changed?

On June 26 2011 11:05 JimmyJRaynor wrote:


nice long winded giant stretch..... but hey its entertaining if nothing else.
it becomes harder to make that stretch because of context.

but let's follow this stretch because you are trying hard!

if this is the case then the previous posters comment that Mr. Robinson is some far off arm's length parrot repeating whatever company line they feed him IS INCORRECT. Mr. Robinson is then an active participant in the NASL.

Therefore, the promise of 3 seasons and $400,000 in prize money comes to us not from a paid actor reciting voice lines by rote but an active integral member of the NASL team.

With the laundry list of past issues (already acknowledged in this thread) it is up to Mr. Robinson to perform due diligence in verifying the content of any NASL announcements he made.

With Mr. Robinson's acknowledged poor track record of judgement previous co-workers in projects
(Louder with GosuCoaching ; MysteryMan with GosuGuide, etc etc etc). The lack of a major hardware manufacturer sponsor. The volatility in NASL so far. I believe it is reasonable for me to be skeptical about the promise of 3 seasons and $400,000 in prize money.

Notice I did not say Mr. Robinson is a bank robber about to take down Chase-Manhatten Bank on 40th street. All i said was that it is reasonable to be skeptical.

With this healthy skepticism in mind let's find out if 3 seasons and $400,000 in prize money is still on the table or if this has changed. Let's add this question as well.

As we already know.. a great deal about NASL has changed since mid-April and therefore it is reasonable to ask the above question as well.

So I'll add some bold type for a similar dramatic effect as in your post.
Are 3 Seasons with $400,000 In Prize Money Still On The Schedule or has this changed?

On June 26 2011 13:06 Defacer wrote:

It's not a stretch at all man. It's actually really normal.
You're barking up the wrong tree, dude.

On June 26 2011 13:40 JimmyJRaynor wrote:


he called it "my league" the interviewer cautioned him about his words getting mininterpreted.

let's see if the 2 questions placed in bold get answered.

I'm glad you've acknowledged its reasonable to be skeptical about the $400,000 in prize money though

On June 26 2011 10:00 Defacer wrote:


So we agree, you're not qualified to judge someone like InControl so harshly.

Maybe one day, you'll actually put yourself in a position were you stick your neck out there. Try to make a living in an nascent industry. Start your own business. Manage a large and diverse team to complete a large project. Do what you love. Quite frankly, being a securities dealer isn't that ambitious -- it's a pretty linear and safe career path, with many established paths and opportunities to make, at minimum, a reasonable living.

InControl's been part of a lot of ambitious, collaborative projects related to e-sports. That sounds about as lucrative and reliable as trying to be a professional skateboarder in the early 80's. Not all these projects have worked out, that's obvious. But there's a lot of reasons why projects like these fail. It can be as simple as someone having a kid, or their mother getting sick. An investor breaks a promise. That kind of shit.

In your post, you recognize your own failures and self-interest. Good for you. But it's pretty easy to 'take the high road' now after sinking so low, if avoiding an argument is taking the high road.

Go ahead and report my post, if you think it's so hostile. I'm not the one that has been trying to drag someone else's name in the mud needlessly for months.

On June 26 2011 13:28 Malgrif wrote:
i always thought incontrol was the boss of NASL or something. so since i'm ignorant in this respect, who runs the NASL?

On June 26 2011 16:05 Swede wrote:


Hahaha. Great post. The best bit is seeing other people take it seriously... I love people with an inability to recognise when comedy is occuring.

On June 26 2011 16:41 Golgotha wrote:


i believe xeris runs nasl. along with a mystery donor who guaranteed at least 3 seasons with $400,000 in the bank.

But I get the feeling that it'll last 2 seasons and then stop. It's just not really doing so hot and I feel as if it NEEDS a dramatic change in direction. someone to save NASL and bring it to the top.

first...get rid of the looooooooooong season schedule. it really isn't helping in the quality of games; it also has led to many walkovers.

On June 26 2011 10:00 Defacer wrote:


So we agree, you're not qualified to judge someone like InControl so harshly.

Maybe one day, you'll actually put yourself in a position were you stick your neck out there. Try to make a living in an nascent industry. Start your own business. Manage a large and diverse team to complete a large project. Do what you love. Quite frankly, being a securities dealer isn't that ambitious -- it's a pretty linear and safe career path, with many established paths and opportunities to make, at minimum, a reasonable living.

InControl's been part of a lot of ambitious, collaborative projects related to e-sports. That sounds about as lucrative and reliable as trying to be a professional skateboarder in the early 80's. Not all these projects have worked out, that's obvious. But there's a lot of reasons why projects like these fail. It can be as simple as someone having a kid, or their mother getting sick. An investor breaks a promise. That kind of shit.

In your post, you recognize your own failures and self-interest. Good for you. But it's pretty easy to 'take the high road' now after sinking so low, if avoiding an argument is taking the high road.

Go ahead and report my post, if you think it's so hostile. I'm not the one that has been trying to drag someone else's name in the mud needlessly for months.