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On August 04 2011 00:19 Baituri wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 23:53 Alejandrisha wrote:On August 03 2011 14:17 OzRe wrote:On June 20 2011 23:22 Alejandrisha wrote:
assuming one makes $2/1000 viewers/commericals,
3.5 games / hr (pretty typical I think)
1/2 viewers use adblock (an unfortunate truth, but this is the figure I've heard from many streamers)
IdrA would make about $28/hr (8 k viewers avg)
than TLO made $50-62/hr for charity when he did the 24 hour thingy (he had 20k views at some points) Well, under those circumstances, I think it'd be more. I would assume that less than half (the typical figure) were using adblock because they were watching for the cause primarily and a lot of people were spamming f5 to force more ads. It is not that everyone is using adblock. A lot of countries don't get the ads. Simple as that. A lot of time when I am watching streams and they are going for an ad. I just don't get to see one (I don't use adblock).
Yeah the 1/2 figure is not of my creation.. it's just something I've heard on stream from a lot of people. So maybe that half they don't receive revenue from are partially adblockers and partially non-adblockers that don't receive ads in their region
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On August 04 2011 00:20 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 10:47 marcesr wrote:
Sorry but I dont know where to ask this question.
Why do streamers just get 2$/1000 viewer for a commercial?
That is so little compared to for example German television where a commercial usually costs about 1cent per viewer which makes 10€/1000 viewer.
Not to mention that TV commercials are usually in a block with 20 other commercials while we only see one commercial at a time on streaming services. So that should make commercials on streaming services more valuable.
Furthermore it is a lot easier to precisely reach your target audience via streams than via TV.
(Of course you can only reach certain audiences via streams)
Is it because commercials on live streams are still underused by the industry and thus the price is low?
Or does the rest go to the streaming services? for two reasons. First TV companies deal directly with the advertisers, while internet broadcasters deal with intermediaries like justin.tv. And secondly tv commercials are put there based on the advertiser's requests, who study target demographics of the show and compare it to the target demographics of the product, hence making the advertising more valuable.
Thanks that was an answer I was hoping for.
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On August 04 2011 00:17 Alejandrisha wrote:Why is every post in every thread an attempt to confirm or clarify confirmation of something that has already been discussed and resolved earlier in the thread. 
LOL the smiley nailed it :D
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I wonder how long it will be before the RIAA decides they want a cut of that. I mean, in some sense a lot of these players are running an internet radio station.
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this topic has been discussed a lot long story short version is if you can hold 2k+ viewers it'll generate money you can live off of if not then it's dimes and nickles.
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As per page 1, 2000 viewers is $7/h, which is 7*160h/month=$1120/month (at 40 hours pr. week - I've kept it comparable with ordinary work). Can you live off that in the US? I can't in Denmark, I would need 3x that. Amount of commercials also play a role here though.
RIAA has long been "hunting" music playing streamers. JustinTV have warned several streamers and asked them to stop or make agreements with music companies.
Edit:
From the Justin.tv wiki:
"Justin.tv now uses an advanced filtering system from Vobile to detect and filter out any copyrighted content, and remove the channel from the website."
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A number I keep hearing from LoL streamers is:
own3d = 3-4$ / 1000 viewers / hour
justin.tv = 6$ / 1000 viewers / hour, but ONLY for viewers from the US
I'm not 100% sure on the exact amount but it was pretty close to the above, so I'm not entirely sure why the numbers thrown around here seem so much lower.
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