EPTMLG Seeding - Page 9
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TrevorJK
United States77 Posts
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On June 08 2011 02:33 JustPassingBy wrote: Huh? How does that come? Losira and MC are only 2 players apart, so they should be in different groups, shouldn't they? edit: Btw. the Koreans need to place top 5 or above for this trip to become economically viable to them. Even though I think they are capable of doing that, we might not see some of them returning. :sadface: LosirA is 7, MC is 10 in the overall rankings. This is how the groups would be: Group A: 1, 8, 9, 16 Group B: 2, 7, 10, 15 Group C: 3, 6, 11, 14 Group D: 4, 5, 12, 13 That puts losira, mc and idra all in group b. Again this hinges on all of them showing up. Well really you just need everyone ranked 11 or lower to show up. If that happens all 3 will be in the same group. | ||
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On June 08 2011 02:16 Mr Mauve wrote: Hi! Devil's advocate here. The people Gretorp lost to in Columbus are ranked (according to Liquipedia, so not yet adjusted for Columbus tie-breakers): 1st 4th 16th (based on only 1 tournament, with an 8th place finish - so this person deserves better than 16th) 17th 22nd and 30th (based on 1 tournament, with a 17-20th place finish - so this person deserves better than 30th) In Dallas, he beat someone who is currently ranked 31st (and who has played in both tournaments). Based on that, doesn't a ranking of "somewhere between 22nd and 31st" seem almost, well... fair? It's not fair that he doesn't even get the chance to play lower seeded people. He didn't win a single match in columbus, yet finished in 27th place. What other tournament allows you to finish in the top 10% by losing everything? In columbus I only lost to a player who was ranked 23rd, and beat someone ranked 29th. Does that mean I should be ranked somewhere between 24th and 28th? | ||
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Mr Mauve
United Kingdom386 Posts
On June 08 2011 02:40 DoomsVille wrote: LosirA is 7, MC is 10 in the overall rankings. This is how the groups would be: Group A: 1, 8, 9, 16 Group B: 2, 7, 10, 15 Group C: 3, 6, 11, 14 Group D: 4, 5, 12, 13 That puts losira, mc and idra all in group b. Again this hinges on all of them showing up. Well really you just need everyone ranked 11 or lower to show up. If that happens all 3 will be in the same group. Also, iNcontroL and Machine would be in the same group 8^D | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
On June 08 2011 01:56 Shiros wrote: I'm pretty sure in the aftergame interview, MMA said he would come back if invited since he enjoyed MLG so much. If I remember correctly, they won't reinvite (meaning they'll pay for plane tickets and stay) a korean previously invited, but anyone is free to get there themselves and get seeded with the points they got when they were invited. That means it would be possible to have 8 koreans in pool play next MLG if MMA/MC/Losira/Moon fly in along with the 4 new korean invites. | ||
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KingPaddy
1053 Posts
So it will not work the way, that with each tournament there will be four more Koreans seeded. (Not that I would be against it) Sorry, if that was already posted. | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
For example: It has Sjow at 250 for Columbus because at the time it was unknown if he finished 13th/14th/15th/16th so they gave him the minimum of 250 for a 16th place finish. However, Sjow finished 13th and earned 340 points. Also, TLO did only earn 60, but Haypro earned 460. So Haypro will be ahead of TLO by 10 points. | ||
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Mr Mauve
United Kingdom386 Posts
On June 08 2011 02:42 Anihc wrote: It's not fair that he doesn't even get the chance to play lower seeded people. He didn't win a single match in columbus, yet finished in 27th place. What other tournament allows you to finish in the top 10% by losing everything? How about the world's oldest association football competition... the English FA Cup! 762 entrants in 2009/10, but the Premiership and Championship teams don't enter until the 3rd round proper and can't possibly finish below 33rd-64th. BOOM, I WIN! In columbus I only lost to a player who was ranked 23rd, and beat someone ranked 29th. Does that mean I should be ranked somewhere between 24th and 28th? Shouldn't that be my first guess? I'm sorry the system let you down - it sounds like you kicked ass. (takes off devil's advocate robe and wig) Look, I'm not saying the system is perfect. I think it should react far quicker than it does. I'm just saying that in Gretorp's case it is at least consistent. And it means that MLG can make videos and compile stats for a few big name players, so for them - it works. | ||
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ehalf
408 Posts
On June 07 2011 19:12 tooPrime wrote: So I know MLG would like to get some Koreans in there, but if they invite 4 new Koreans every time and the previous Koreans keep showing up with their plush seedings they got from getting placed into pool play, wouldn't pool play just become mostly Koreans after awhile? It is sort of like if the GSL gave 6 Code S spots away to foreigners every new tournament. GSL did give 4 foreigner code A spot last time. Unfortunately, none of them survived except Huk. GSL could easily give like 4 spots for foreigners in code S, but no offense, it seems impossible for them to stay in code S. Plz name 4 players in MLG who had won 2-3 games v.s. Korean (coz this is minimum required winning number to stay in GSL code S, not to mention Moon and MMA is not current code S player). Wow, I'm sry, the result is none. | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
1. Naniwa 1850 11. Haypro 800 12. TLO 770 20. Tyler 430 2. Idra 1400 9. iNcontroL 920 13. Sjow 740 19. Fenix 460 4. Slush 1190 8. Ret 940 14. Moonan 630 18. Sheth 520 5. Kiwikaki 1140 6. Select 1090 16. Drewbie 540 17. Machine 530 | ||
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coolcor
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ehalf
408 Posts
On June 08 2011 02:16 Mr Mauve wrote: Hi! Devil's advocate here. The people Gretorp lost to in Columbus are ranked (according to Liquipedia, so not yet adjusted for Columbus tie-breakers): 1st 4th 16th (based on only 1 tournament, with an 8th place finish - so this person deserves better than 16th) 17th 22nd and 30th (based on 1 tournament, with a 17-20th place finish - so this person deserves better than 30th) In Dallas, he beat someone who is currently ranked 31st (and who has played in both tournaments). Based on that, doesn't a ranking of "somewhere between 22nd and 31st" seem almost, well... fair? New strong player keep coming. U cant expect MLG still have same shit level of players while it growing. Their system is stupid enough to keep horrible players stays in the pool. If u cant even stay with this current system, it only indicates u are far beyond horrible. User was warned for this post | ||
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GeorgeForeman
United States1746 Posts
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Original exxo
United States257 Posts
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neo_sporin
United States516 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On June 07 2011 21:45 GTR wrote: Won't the Korean's have the same travel stipend that the other top 16 players have? Which is $0... only travel stipend for the National Championship afaik | ||
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aDd3z
Germany885 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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