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AgentSmith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada91 Posts
June 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#181
OMG since seeds go 2,7,10,15 consider this group B
IdrA
LosirA
MC
Moon
OMG
I'm a total noob!
AgentSmith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada91 Posts
June 07 2011 19:47 GMT
#182
On June 08 2011 03:54 Sprouter wrote:
This is what the pools will look like assuming none of koreans seeded in the top 16 (MMA, MC, Losira, and Moon) are invited back for Anaheim:

1. Naniwa 1850
11. Haypro 800
12. TLO 770
20. Tyler 430

2. Idra 1400
9. iNcontroL 920
13. Sjow 740
19. Fenix 460

4. Slush 1190
8. Ret 940
14. Moonan 630
18. Sheth 520

5. Kiwikaki 1140
6. Select 1090
16. Drewbie 540
17. Machine 530


I would assume that MC and MMA's respective teams will probably be sending them to Anaheim, and they have the points to be seeded into group play. Maybe even LosirA will be sent as well.
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AgentSmith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada91 Posts
June 07 2011 19:48 GMT
#183
On June 08 2011 04:39 IPA wrote:
Is there any word yet on whether SLush, NaNi or Ret will be choosing to take advantage of the Code A opportunity afforded them? I know IdrA wants to stay in the US. If they do not accept, will they simply go down the line until someone accepts?

Yes
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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 07 2011 19:52 GMT
#184
On June 08 2011 04:48 AgentSmith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 04:39 IPA wrote:
Is there any word yet on whether SLush, NaNi or Ret will be choosing to take advantage of the Code A opportunity afforded them? I know IdrA wants to stay in the US. If they do not accept, will they simply go down the line until someone accepts?

Yes


Does that Yes mean Slush, Nani and Ret have accepted? My question is: who is going to Code A via MLG opportunity?
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cybiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 20:04:18
June 07 2011 20:03 GMT
#185
On June 08 2011 04:52 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 04:48 AgentSmith wrote:
On June 08 2011 04:39 IPA wrote:
Is there any word yet on whether SLush, NaNi or Ret will be choosing to take advantage of the Code A opportunity afforded them? I know IdrA wants to stay in the US. If they do not accept, will they simply go down the line until someone accepts?

Yes


Does that Yes mean Slush, Nani and Ret have accepted? My question is: who is going to Code A via MLG opportunity?

I think he's referring to
If they do not accept, will they simply go down the line until someone accepts?


MLGLee said (Twitter) that they'll announce the code A invites when all 3 people interested in going confirm.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 07 2011 20:04 GMT
#186
On June 08 2011 04:52 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 04:48 AgentSmith wrote:
On June 08 2011 04:39 IPA wrote:
Is there any word yet on whether SLush, NaNi or Ret will be choosing to take advantage of the Code A opportunity afforded them? I know IdrA wants to stay in the US. If they do not accept, will they simply go down the line until someone accepts?

Yes


Does that Yes mean Slush, Nani and Ret have accepted? My question is: who is going to Code A via MLG opportunity?


Slush said no. Ret probably won't since he just came from there. I'm not sure about Naniwa though.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 20:07:14
June 07 2011 20:06 GMT
#187
On June 08 2011 02:36 Titan48 wrote:
MLG can invite the same 4 koreans for Anaheim if they want, correct?


Technically they could, though I would imagine there is going to be more interest from all teams to get one of their code a players into Anaheim because of the Code S slot.

Maybe they can have a mini-tournament or something? That would be a cool way to pick the representatives instead of GOM just picking without parameters.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
June 08 2011 17:00 GMT
#188
Hopefully MMA comes back again. That way he has two chances to make Code S, which is where he belongs

As for new invites, Nestea and MVP PLEASE!
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
June 08 2011 17:02 GMT
#189
Is there anyway the OP could be updated to reflect the actual rankings instead of speculation? They can be found here:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Rankings
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 08 2011 17:02 GMT
#190
Looking at these rankings makes me feel more and more like MLG Dallas 2011 should have been one large double elimination tournament and then after that they should have moved into pool play. Some players still in the top 16 performed well last year but are honestly not of the same calibre that a lot of the players outside the top 16 are.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 08 2011 17:05 GMT
#191
lol I really hope they don't just go down the list and take the first three that accepts. There is really no point sending the ranked 14th, 16th, 18th foreigner there to Code A, as Code A does have a lot of good Koreans already, their chance of getting to Code S is next to nil. I'd much rather those spots just open up to more worthy Code B Koreans, as getting thru that qualifier is already hell.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
June 08 2011 17:09 GMT
#192
On June 08 2011 03:54 coolcor wrote:
So Thorzain got 9th this event yet still is ranked 20th and might not be seeded next time. It seems kind of ridiculous he might have to go through the open bracket again how high would whitera need to place to get seeded in the next MLG? Is it even possible for a foreigner with no or few points to get seeded now unless they can beat the Koreans for the top places?(maybe even more than once?)


It seems like sort of a ridiculous "snowball" system in which the seeded players have a better chance of getting a strong showing, thus getting more points and being seeded higher. I think they could alter the system by giving more weight to recent events (like, Columbus is worth 1.5x the points of Dallas. After Anaheim, Ana pts are 1.5x, Columbus is 1x, Dallas is .75x, etc.) This would make recent results more important than past results and give a better chance to newcomers.
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
June 08 2011 17:16 GMT
#193
Naniwa being number one, nice
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 17:19:53
June 08 2011 17:18 GMT
#194
So the changes to the pool are as follows:

- Tyler
- Drewbie
- Gretorp
- Sheth
- moon

+ Socke
+ 4 korean invites


Socke enters (hopefully), but by placing 6th in Dalles he was invited to Columbus anyways. He just couldn't make it due to the Esl finals.

Instead of Socke, Sheth got a shot into the pool, but sadly failed to get himself a seed for the next MLG by "only" placing 14th (making him top 10 non-Korean in that event).

Tyler, Drewbie, Gretorp and Moon will make place for 4 new Korean invites, Moon barely failing to get a seeding by "only" finishing 8th place and losing to Machine by 10 mere points.


By the way, just wanted to note that the fears of MLG being flooded by Koreans is unreasonable. The farther we are into an MLG season, the more points you need to get a seed. In Columbus, placing 8th wasn't sufficient for Moon to gain a seed and in Anaheim, placing 6th or 7th might not be sufficient either.
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
June 08 2011 17:19 GMT
#195
Hopefully the MMA, MC, and Losira can come back and play again!
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
June 08 2011 17:19 GMT
#196
All depends on the Koreans, Because if none of the same koreans show up (i.e. a different group from the GSL) machine, sheth, Fenix, Tyler might still have seed shots.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
June 08 2011 17:19 GMT
#197
Question? If someone who is in the top 16 doesn't make it to the next tournament do they just bump up the next player? I know Huk had to play in the open bracket. When he had more points because of his late sign up.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
June 08 2011 17:21 GMT
#198
On June 09 2011 02:19 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Question? If someone who is in the top 16 doesn't make it to the next tournament do they just bump up the next player? I know Huk had to play in the open bracket. When he had more points because of his late sign up.


Seth (17th place before Columbus) got into the pool, because Socke (6th place before Columbus) couldn't make it.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 08 2011 17:21 GMT
#199
On June 09 2011 02:09 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 03:54 coolcor wrote:
So Thorzain got 9th this event yet still is ranked 20th and might not be seeded next time. It seems kind of ridiculous he might have to go through the open bracket again how high would whitera need to place to get seeded in the next MLG? Is it even possible for a foreigner with no or few points to get seeded now unless they can beat the Koreans for the top places?(maybe even more than once?)


It seems like sort of a ridiculous "snowball" system in which the seeded players have a better chance of getting a strong showing, thus getting more points and being seeded higher. I think they could alter the system by giving more weight to recent events (like, Columbus is worth 1.5x the points of Dallas. After Anaheim, Ana pts are 1.5x, Columbus is 1x, Dallas is .75x, etc.) This would make recent results more important than past results and give a better chance to newcomers.


I think they're trying to reward players who show up and work hard for each event to make it deep into the MLG final event (rewarded by favorable seeding) but it is true it makes it very hard to break in, especially for someone deserving like thorzain
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 08 2011 17:26 GMT
#200
I think the problem with the Korean Seeding is MLG isn't taking this on the scale of GSL.

MLG Pool play is 16 players

Code A or S are 32

Having 3 / 4 Americans to come over to participate in a Ro32 is fine as it doesn't clog the bracket up with non Koreans like the problem we're seeing now.

MLG should really just invite 2 Koreans to pool play and then let CSN or whoever have their Open bracket guy (should they do that again) but of course the problem could end up the same 8 MLGs down the road when they could have possibly slowly all clawed their way into the Top 16.
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