I knew about this but assumed the same goes for the other workers..guess not. I don't mind it because it adds micro to the game but it's kind of dumb that it does not to apply to scvs and probes.

ZeromuS

Canada13410 Posts

May 20 2011 20:55 GMT

#122

To those talking about BW differences among workers we need to remember that they also mined differently, had different Hit point values as well. In SC2 the only difference among the 3 workers is this attacking bug. In SC2 I believe all workers were designed to have the same effective HP (regen and shield regen making up for the sheer HP scvs have compared to the other workers) so this bug being the only difference to me means it is indeed a bug

wankey

98 Posts

May 20 2011 21:07 GMT

#123

It's an incredibly simple fix, change Drone attack into a hit scan instead of a missile. I think original drone had a missile effect rather than melee slap.

And for the love of god please change around the effects for Zerg, seriously a slap!??!?! He's got claws, and his attack is a SLAP? They need to fire the sound designer. Ultralisk has MASSIVE claws and they sound like samurai warriors (they sound like what Dark templar should sound like)

Mailing

United States3087 Posts

May 20 2011 21:09 GMT

#124

On May 21 2011 06:07 wankey wrote:
It's an incredibly simple fix, change Drone attack into a hit scan instead of a missile. I think original drone had a missile effect rather than melee slap.

And for the love of god please change around the effects for Zerg, seriously a slap!??!?! He's got claws, and his attack is a SLAP? They need to fire the sound designer. Ultralisk has MASSIVE claws and they sound like samurai warriors (they sound like what Dark templar should sound like)

Probes - LIGHTNING BOLT, LIGHTNING BOLT~

SCV - DRILL BEAKER, DRILL BREAKER~

Drone - Crab Claw - Snip.... Snip....... Snip...............

Xswordy

United Kingdom425 Posts

May 20 2011 21:10 GMT

#125

On May 21 2011 05:40 FeyFey wrote:
You are forgetting that a drone has instant 1 hp regene on hit. So in worker vs worker this is always one extra hit. So the max hp of a drone is 1 higher then shown or a complete worker hit.

oh my why do i bother this is a troll catcher thread ...

edit: well at least it made me look at some of the by MooN starcraft bw vids ^^ they are really epic

SCVs have 55 health and probes regen shields to compensate for this, if you forgot.

Figgy

Canada1788 Posts

May 20 2011 21:22 GMT

#126

No way this should be changed. It would make 12 drone rush insanely strong against Terran.

Azrepoman

United States13 Posts

May 20 2011 21:23 GMT

#127

Damn you Blizzard. No wonder spine crawler, bunker rush, and probe harass is so difficult to deal with sometimes.

uzas

Croatia52 Posts

May 20 2011 21:55 GMT

#128

Buff the drone!!!!!!!!!

User was temp banned for this post.

stevarius

United States1394 Posts

May 20 2011 21:56 GMT

#129

On May 21 2011 06:10 Xswordy wrote:

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SCVs have 55 health and probes regen shields to compensate for this, if you forgot.

SCVs have 45 hp.

da_head

Canada3350 Posts

May 20 2011 21:59 GMT

#130

good find.i always wondered y it was easier to keep a worker alive longer in a zerg's base vs terrans (before rines/lings pop out obv)

Arco

United States2090 Posts

May 20 2011 22:04 GMT

#131

I've known about this forever but I'm surprised it wasn't posted yet

Thanks for that

elkram

United States221 Posts

May 20 2011 22:31 GMT

#132

You know what else is annoying, the fact that when a worker turns at an acute angle they get attacked by the worker following it. I mean c'mon. Whenever I see a zerg who actually knows what he's doing I can't get the little drone out of my base until I get a sentry or stalker (how imba+ Show Spoiler +

not really -_-

), so for you guys to be complaining that you can't get probes out until you get lings, i'm sorry, but quit whining.

As to the OP's point, definitely cool to know, will try and take advantage of it when blocking hatches and stuff (hopefully the zerg doesn't bring 2 drones

)

Shiladie

Canada1631 Posts

May 20 2011 22:46 GMT

#133

The damage point stat is actually very interesting, and I would be intrigued to see a statblock for this on all of the melee units. I definitely agree this isn't gamebreaking to any kind of degree, and nobody should bring any of this up as some massive imbalance or reason for losing. But it is something we can look at and wonder about.

viii

United States266 Posts

May 20 2011 22:54 GMT

#134

This is actually surprising to see, i didnt think workers would have some kind attack deviation.

Jameser

Sweden951 Posts

May 20 2011 22:59 GMT

#135

I thought this was a well known issue, every zerg player complained about it for the first couple of months of the game...

Gooey

United States944 Posts

May 20 2011 23:02 GMT

#136

So what you are saying is that if DTs are in my base, I just patrol all of my workers and take zero damage?

Excellent.

By the way, the ultralisk thing is just plain funny. They are already bad enough, but now the way to beat ultras is just to.... run... :D

Tassadar_UK

United Kingdom5 Posts

May 20 2011 23:11 GMT

#137

lol at people saying BW probe was "OP"...
balance is an all-unit-encompassing issue, its not as simple as worker vs worker.

the biggest imbalance in Brood War was 6 zerglings appearing in a protoss base when they had 1 zealot. the fact that probes had a suprising ability to defend their mineral line from this was the only thing preventing ling rushes in ZvP being as automatically game-ending as they are in sc2 (if the block fails)
..and in BW they still caused significant economic setback, often enough to influence the outcome.

incredible that iDrAma would whine about bw probes.. so much for his moral legitimacy

EtherealDeath

United States8366 Posts

May 20 2011 23:13 GMT

#138

Yea, I abuse this all the time to prevent that hatch from ever going down ;s

isospeedrix

United States215 Posts

May 20 2011 23:14 GMT

#139

I always felt this but I always thought it was just my imagination or bias, and not actually true. Great to see a confirmation.

TelecoM

United States10817 Posts

May 20 2011 23:18 GMT

#140

If you are chasing a probe around in a circle, obviously it is not the smartest thing to just keep chasing it in a circle, but if you instead change the path of the probe and just go in the direction in which the probe will move, then you can hit it a lot of the time, that is how I do it when I am able to pick off probes to expand.