Sure, it may be a bug, but it has almost no relevance to real games for the following reasons.

The only time this applies is when you're chasing someone blocking your hatch, but nobody in their right mind would right click the SCV/Probe in that instance. You have to do intercepts every circle they do so you can get the probe down as fast as possible. Intercepting is faster even if this artifact you're describing DIDN'T exist. So fixing it would only benefit those without the APM to intercept the blocking SCV/Probe.

emc

United States3088 Posts

May 21 2011 03:20 GMT

#163

I always knew that drones can miss their targets, but you can stop that with predicting their movement and cutting them off, obviously there was no micro in those videos.

I think this needs to be fixed, ESPECIALLY for the Ultras, no wonder they suck so bad

I didn't know that DTs also missed and they should be fixed too. I don't see a logical reason why high costing units should be able to miss.

Temporarykid

Canada362 Posts

May 21 2011 03:25 GMT

#164

On May 20 2011 20:48 Bond(i2) wrote:
Bring back the Broodwar drone!

I actually wouldn't mind this, just for the visual animation of the drone's attack. Sometimes, I can't even tell if an attack went off or not .. : s

GenZai

France38 Posts

May 21 2011 03:39 GMT

#165

omg thats why my probe are so bad for defending b2

MonsieurGrimm

Canada2441 Posts

May 21 2011 03:53 GMT

#166

On May 21 2011 11:54 arbitrageur wrote:
Sure, it may be a bug, but it has almost no relevance to real games for the following reasons.

The only time this applies is when you're chasing someone blocking your hatch, but nobody in their right mind would right click the SCV/Probe in that instance. You have to do intercepts every circle they do so you can get the probe down as fast as possible. Intercepting is faster even if this artifact you're describing DIDN'T exist. So fixing it would only benefit those without the APM to intercept the blocking SCV/Probe.

unless you pull 2 drones, if the guy micros his probe/scv as well as you micro your drone you'll still be very hard pressed to kill it. obviously it's not a big deal, it would just be nice if it were fixed.

XenoX101

Australia729 Posts

May 21 2011 05:21 GMT

#167

It would've been easier for Blizz to keep all the miners exactly the same, so I think this is more likely intended than any kind of slip-up on their part.

3 reasons I can think of off that bat would be:
- to weaken 6 pool /w drones all in
- because zerg can produce drones a little faster
- because zerg are generally expected to have more drones than the opponent's SCVs/probes in an evenly matched game (hence why they can produce them a little faster)

Dalguno

United States2446 Posts

May 21 2011 05:35 GMT

#168

This can't be deliberate, can it? That would just seem so blatantly off to me.

SirFrancisBacon

Australia4 Posts

May 21 2011 05:44 GMT

#169

I think this is deliberate by blizzard. The drone's attack is significantly higher than that of other workers, so they may have implemented this to prevent worker rushes from crushing opponents.

Treemonkeys

United States2082 Posts

May 21 2011 06:02 GMT

#170

lol this is so annoying! think about how it all adds up in a typical game...

basic zvp:

Run around toss base with drone scout, toss just clicks one probe to attack drone and leaves it, zerg must micro drone to keep safe from a-clicked probe

meanwhile back at zerg base:

Toss just sets up waypoint for scouting probe, zerg must micro his attack drone while multitasking scout drone if he wants to damage waypoint probe, zerg says fuck it and saves mining time, toss consistently gets effortless probe scout

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

May 21 2011 06:09 GMT

#171

On May 21 2011 11:10 Coolguy wrote:
Oh man i remember drones having more range than scvs/probes in BW, and scvs could attack while moving. damn imbalance :D

Technically drones were actually considered melee in Bw despite what their attack looked like

the probe was the only one that was actually able to kite the other 2 if given proper micro

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10382 Posts

May 21 2011 06:17 GMT

#172

Perhaps if this is kept in though, it will lead to epic micro skill and battles.

For example, in BW, if Mutas flew in a specific pattern (something like a triangle, i'm not too familiar) it will cause the Scourge AI to bug and not explode -- hence giving the Mutalisks enough space to kill the Scourge.

Shebuha

Canada1335 Posts

May 21 2011 06:19 GMT

#173

I sincerely believe that if this is intended my Blizzard, that that is kinda messed... Especially ultralisk kiting. How useful is it to make an expensive, highest tier unit that can't hit a stimmed terran bio even if the animation happens?

IMO, if the animation happens, the damage should happen, like the zealot charge thing, kinda.

johanngrunt

Hong Kong1555 Posts

May 21 2011 06:26 GMT

#174

I want weapon upgrades to affect workers too!!!!! I don't care about all this kiting!!!

Just give me my 8 dmg scv!!! hehe.

Not sure why they wouldn't want to keep it consistent between all races tho.... Seems something so minor.... hopefully they patch this.

Owarida

United States333 Posts

May 21 2011 06:28 GMT

#175

You mean even at the level of the worker zerg is underpowered!

greendestiny

Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts

May 21 2011 06:29 GMT

#176

In Warcraft 3, a melee unit missing a fleeing faster unit if the attack animation was played out was extremely rare, notwithstanding special abilities and effects.
If the animation connects, it should do damage, no matter what.
Come on, Blizzard, get a grip!

Mailing

United States3087 Posts

May 21 2011 06:35 GMT

#177

IdrA quote often when streaming will miss killing a probe by 5 hp before a pylon goes down at his natural. If even one hit is dodged because of this then it's worth it to spend 5 mins and patch it,

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

May 21 2011 06:38 GMT

#178

I thought this was fixed a looong time ago back when it was ridiculously easy to dodge worker hits.

vilg

Denmark413 Posts

May 21 2011 06:42 GMT

#179

This will have to be fixed, it's pretty stupid. To all the people saying it doesn't mean anything; The bug also happens when you pull drones to defend against a stimmed t army that does the pull back and shoot micro, drones will stop moving to attack and then not get attacks off.

BestFriends

Canada133 Posts

May 21 2011 06:49 GMT

#180

i feel little things like this should be left in the game as they can be fixed with a little micro. yes the lower players will have a harder time but most high level zergs will just micro the drone. also the circle used in the video and what is required for a hatch block are a lot different. its not that bad.