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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
Noah Lazarus, the owner of team "Lazarus Gaming", has disbanded the roster, saying that he no longer has the time to manage the organization, LG was the home of many popular figures like PainUser, Zelniq, InKa and the YouTube commentator HDStarCraft, and so its death is indeed an unfortunate event. LG Roster PainUser Zelniq InKa Agh HDStarCraft Response Shew Syckness Apparently Response has join already a new team | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
i always liked team LG you know the reason for them disbandending? | ||
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
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xSixGeneralHan
United States528 Posts
Gl to former LG members | ||
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Aggnog
Bulgaria77 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Any idea where Painuser is going? | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:35 sVnteen wrote: omg thats really sad i always liked team LG you know the reason for them disbandending? I heard Noah Lazarus got a girl friend and no one on LG ever heard from him >_< For those of you who dont know, Noah is like a 22 yr old millionaire whom is retired and was a fan of sc2 so he sponsored his own team. | ||
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Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
Good luck to the players. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:37 On_Slaught wrote: This is suprising. Any idea where Painuser is going? Since he is friends with Idra and Incontrol I would not be surprised if EG picks him up. | ||
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aFganFlyTrap
Australia212 Posts
it would be cool if they stuck together but i can see them getting snatched up by other clans rather quickly zelniq/response/painuser/agh were all good players i even think shew was on that team? | ||
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War Horse
United States247 Posts
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:38 Xiron wrote: No LGPainuser no more >: {( } Good luck to the players. They killed painuser too? That is a bit excessive :O | ||
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NrG.NeverExpo
Canada2114 Posts
GL guys, hope no one decides to quit playing because of this O_o | ||
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aFganFlyTrap
Australia212 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:40 War Horse wrote: They weren't that good anyways. PainUser is ok but hes pretty outmatched in the NASL. Everyone else on the team were Beta-stars response, agh and painuser actually did rather well at the last MLG. agh and painuser all finishing in the top 24 and agh was back around 40th. response had some top notch games over that weekend beta stars is a bit of an insult and just shows your ignorance. *edit* forgot abotu zelniq. i think he ended up placing around 30th | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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Leahbjackson
United States107 Posts
. Regardless, GL to all the LG guys, they're friends of mine and all of them are awesome people. They'll find new homes soon! | ||
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R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:43 flodeskum wrote: They killed painuser too? That is a bit excessive :O RIP Painuser. His tombstone should say "Dark Templar > Banshee" | ||
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viii
United States266 Posts
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fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:39 -Archangel- wrote: Since he is friends with Idra and Incontrol I would not be surprised if EG picks him up. it would be great for him if they did, best of luck to the LG players if LG really did disband | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Big shame, I was a fan of Zelniq. One of my top 3 favourite Zergs. | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:47 R0YAL wrote: RIP Painuser. His tombstone should say "Dark Templar > Banshee" thats very true, so funny painuser and incontrol sotg discussion | ||
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Termit
Sweden3466 Posts
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.Enigma.
Sweden1461 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:51 Torte de Lini wrote: Dammit Noah, I would have helped keep the team in check and in tournaments, I'm a decent manager. Big shame, I was a fan of Zelniq. One of my top 3 favourite Zergs. Yeah, I'm surprised he just disbanded it without seeing if there was anyone else willing to manage it. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:53 .Enigma. wrote: Yeah, I'm surprised he just disbanded it without seeing if there was anyone else willing to manage it. He didn't even get the forums up QQ. If I had his e-mail, I'd give him a ring and get some more details. Just feels like LG was his new toy to play with and now he's too busy to really pay attention to the a.i. Okay, a bit harsh, but still. Team had potential! | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:54 Torte de Lini wrote: He didn't even get the forums up QQ. If I had his e-mail, I'd give him a ring and get some more details. Just feels like LG was his new toy to play with and now he's too busy to really pay attention to the a.i. Okay, a bit harsh, but still. Team had potential! Yeah I sort of suspected this might happen. It's great he got involved but I knew if it lost his focus for even a moment he would probably move on. That's the problem with one guy 100% financing a team tt. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:43 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: Yea I'm guessing most of these players will be picked up pretty soon. The majority of good players are on teams so its incredibly difficult to bring on new players. The event of a team disbanding is really shitty but everyone knows its an opportunity to act. GL guys, hope no one decides to quit playing because of this O_o Well said it sucks when clans die. But it makes good opportunity for other teams to pick up some good players. | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
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OnFire
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Rabbitmaster
1357 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:47 R0YAL wrote: RIP Painuser. His tombstone should say "Dark Templar > Banshee" Hahaha i laughed so hard during that state of the game! :> Anyways, sad to hear about LG, good luck to the players. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
Lazarus' reasoning for sponsoring a team -- basically as a lark -- wasn't that good. It takes way more to build a team and a brand than money. You actually have to -- y'know -- manage. They really didn't seem to have any goals or a plan to acheive them. | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
Best of luck to the LG guys - I'm sure they shouldn't have too much trouble finding new homes, with their talent.  edit: Dammit, FXOPainuser got ninja'ed from me!! | ||
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Shew
United States460 Posts
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backtoback
Canada1276 Posts
I was really expecting this would happen from the 22 year old millionaire. Do you really think a 22 year old would run a team? Realistically, no. How did he become a millionaire in the first place? | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:09 backtoback wrote: EG really need some terrans other than demusim... pick up some now!! I was really expecting this would happen from the 22 year old millionaire. Do you really think a 22 year old would run a team? Realistically, no. How did he become a millionaire in the first place? He created a very successful smartphone app or something. | ||
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:09 backtoback wrote: EG really need some terrans other than demusim... pick up some now!! I was really expecting this would happen from the 22 year old millionaire. Do you really think a 22 year old would run a team? Realistically, no. How did he become a millionaire in the first place? lol? Why wouldn't a 22 year old be able to run a team? If he had time and wanted to put the effort in he could. I run a team I'm younger than 22. It just goes with how hard you're willing to work. He could've hired someone to run the team for him. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:13 tGFuRy wrote: lol? Why wouldn't a 22 year old be able to run a team? If he had time and wanted to put the effort in he could. I run a team I'm younger than 22. It just goes with how hard you're willing to work. He could've hired someone to run the team for him. I believe his apps made him a lot of money. | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
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xSixGeneralHan
United States528 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:18 SolHeiM wrote: Yeah, the excuse of time. A very common way of saying "I just don't want to anymore" without actually saying it. When you're running a business, I'm pretty sure it's a reason of time and a not cop-out. Better to have had a team than no team and no opportunities. | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:21 Betsfrox wrote: this is the second team that closes in like a month, i think i read that Praetoriani also disbanded, sad month for SC2 teams Smaller less sucessful teams are dropping off. It happens in everything, not much you can do if you can't keep up. Painuser will probably get picked up by EG or ROOT. Agh I can't say. Response is a popular guy, I could see him on vVv or Vile. Zelniq has always been a popular guy (and as a banling on liquid) I think he'll get on a decent team | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:13 tGFuRy wrote: lol? Why wouldn't a 22 year old be able to run a team? If he had time and wanted to put the effort in he could. I run a team I'm younger than 22. It just goes with how hard you're willing to work. He could've hired someone to run the team for him. It's hard work, but anyone smart and reasonably organized can do it. But there are growing pains. In order to be a good manager in any industry, experience really, really helps. Making a silly app in your basement and selling it is actually a way easier than running a business and managing a team of people (I'm speaking strictly in terms of what you have to do day-to-day, and the amount of bullshit you have to put up with). | ||
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RaNgeD
United States733 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:19 VPGeneralHans wrote: Tbh, I can't see it being a time issue. If you still loved your project you'd find a way to keep it alive by bringing on a manager. But you never know! Time and money. People are expensive. Add hiring a manager on top of paying players (including expenses like flights and hotels) and it adds-up. My assumption is that it was all coming out of Lazarus' pocket, and he didn't have the werewithall or the foresight to see that he needed to secure corporate sponsors as quickly as possible. | ||
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sDzv
Netherlands41 Posts
let's hope this doesn't continue. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
Liquid needs more Terran too... | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Geoff 'iNcontrol' Robinson in his cast on Monday, May 9th of NASL released to the world that Lazarus Gaming disbanded, leaving PainUser a bit lost. Did Painuser first hear it from the NASL cast? | ||
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bmml
United Kingdom962 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:14 Torte de Lini wrote: I believe his apps made him a lot of money. What apps did he author? out of curiosity. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:13 echO [W] wrote: Of which the name he's never told anyone.He created a very successful smartphone app or something. ESPORTS comes and goes. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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xSixGeneralHan
United States528 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:26 Defacer wrote: Time and money. People are expensive. Add hiring a manager on top of paying players (including expenses like flights and hotels) and it adds-up. My assumption is that it was all coming out of Lazarus' pocket, and he didn't have the werewithall or the foresight to see that he needed to secure corporate sponsors as quickly as possible. It was probably more money than anything | ||
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Mr.Troller
3 Posts
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Dawski
Canada435 Posts
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xSixGeneralHan
United States528 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:35 Mr.Troller wrote: STARCRAFT SUX BIG BALLZ!!!!!!!! TROOLOLOLOLOLOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH LG SUX SOOOOOOO OOOO OOO BADDDADADADADA Lmao | ||
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uSnAmplified
United States1029 Posts
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:03 xza wrote: In b4 FXOpainuser and HDstarcraft I read that as FXOpenuser, they sound very similar nice one! On May 11 2011 02:13 tGFuRy wrote: lol? Why wouldn't a 22 year old be able to run a team? If he had time and wanted to put the effort in he could. I run a team I'm younger than 22. It just goes with how hard you're willing to work. He could've hired someone to run the team for him. The way I read the comment was more along the lines of. Why would the guy care or bother. He's living a sort of free live where he forever he can just be doing whatever he feels like doing. Inside the game currently has EGiNcontroL and EGIdrA in addition to PainUser. The IPL had all three on location. PainUser has been on SotG a few times and was very welcome by everyone. Not going into a past I don't know about or things like MLG and other LANs where they have met. They are definitely on good terms with eachother. If this would make it more likely for Taylor to get an offering from the EG organization? I hope so. I really like him and although EG seem a tad stacked already. A top level USA based terran should be a welcome addition. I want to wish you best of luck PainUser and hope you find an excellent home soon. | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:35 Mr.Troller wrote: STARCRAFT SUX BIG BALLZ!!!!!!!! TROOLOLOLOLOLOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH LG SUX SOOOOOOO OOOO OOO BADDDADADADADA goodluck on TL | ||
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XiaN
Germany162 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:21 Betsfrox wrote: this is the second team that closes in like a month, i think i read that Praetoriani also disbanded, sad month for SC2 teams What was the other team? | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:35 Mr.Troller wrote: STARCRAFT SUX BIG BALLZ!!!!!!!! TROOLOLOLOLOLOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH LG SUX SOOOOOOO OOOO OOO BADDDADADADADA Lol. Thanks for the laugh, but I can't help but ask... how can this possibly be worth your time. I mean you aren't even directly insulting someone so I don't see what you are at least attempting to gain from this. At least it's good entertainment. Umm... did you read the thread you are posting in? If you haven't heard... LG has disbanded.......... | ||
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Skarmory
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XiaN
Germany162 Posts
Umm... did you read the thread you are posting in? If you haven't heard... LG id disbanded............................. *facepalms* Shame on me :D PS: I was asking for the OTHER team btw .. but the answer was in my initial quote. | ||
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Dawski
Canada435 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:39 Skarmory wrote: Painuser should join Team Liquid, they both have about the same number of tournament wins this year! haha very unnecessary, but subtle | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:33 Jibba wrote: Of which the name he's never told anyone. ESPORTS comes and goes. Hey, I'm just telling it like I read it when LG was first made :3 | ||
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:41 XiaN wrote: *facepalms* Shame on me :D PS: I was asking for the OTHER team btw .. but the answer was in my initial quote. It happens. | ||
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fortheGG
United Kingdom1002 Posts
Praetoriani | ||
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
Anyway, I hope they find a team soon enough. They are all great players and deserve to be competing at the highest level. | ||
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Kantutan
Canada1319 Posts
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KaiserReinhard
United States554 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:42 JediGamer wrote: Well I mean its nice to support a "pro" team. But I imagine he probably simply lost interest because no player on LG could produce even a single result. This is like 8 months with zero results. I hadn't actually thought about it from that perspective, I think that's a somewhat legitimate thing. | ||
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artanis2
United States732 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:46 Betsfrox wrote: Inka i think use to be EG menber a think so i dont think he will be back to EG, but EG should pick up painuser they only have one terran player i think, so another good terran player might be good, well they have demuslin but i hardly ever se him play Demuslim is very good actually. You should watch him on esl.tv on thursdays or the VODs linked in the "welcome back" thread. | ||
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ExquisiteRed
396 Posts
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
They need another Terran! | ||
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tGFuRy
United States537 Posts
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
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Incursus
United States415 Posts
I do hope they find good homes as players, I think that EG and ROOT will be all over this, it'd be cool having Inka and PainUser going to EG. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:48 KaiserReinhard wrote: I hadn't actually thought about it from that perspective, I think that's a somewhat legitimate thing. Then you have to ask yourself, what kind of infrastructure did Lazarus provide to improve their players? What kind of coaching, practice or training regime did they have? What kind of incentives did players have to win, and what were the consequences if they underperformed? Who was scouting for new players? What was the team doing for the players, and vice versa? Teams are meant to actively improve performance; and not just become a random assembly of players. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On May 11 2011 03:08 Defacer wrote: Then you have to ask yourself, what kind of infrastructure did Lazarus provide to improve their players? What kind of coaching, practice or training regime did they have? What kind of incentives did players have to win, and what were the consequences if they underperformed? Who was scouting for new players? What was the team doing for the players, and vice versa? Teams are meant to actively improve performance; and not just become a random assembly of players. I obviously have no information on how LG worked, but that is a very valid and important thing to keep in mind when teambuilding. Though, I am sure they practiced together a lot online - and the ability to have a group of practice partners who are reliable is pretty useful. Probably nothing like the ROOT gaming house or the soon to be FXO house, but FXO is a bit of an overperformer. | ||
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Ezze
Canada934 Posts
All in all I'm not surprised that this didn't last to be honest. | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:48 artanis2 wrote: Demuslim is very good actually. You should watch him on esl.tv on thursdays or the VODs linked in the "welcome back" thread. no im not saying that demu es a bad player i love his style of play but hi do not have a stream or play a lot o tournes so i hardly ever watch him | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:35 Chicane wrote: Ya I also wouldn't be surprised to see FXO pick him up. I wonder if EG would consider grabbing Inka back since he was already on the team and is currently living with Idra and Machine. Doubt it. Hes not good enough (which is why he got kicked in the first place) Anyways, sucks for lazarus gaming t,t wonder where painuser will go.. | ||
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lbmaian
United States689 Posts
On May 11 2011 03:21 phisku wrote: oh no!!!!!!!!! where is HD gonna go? YouTube? | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 03:21 phisku wrote: oh no!!!!!!!!! where is HD gonna go? Funny, actually HD dose not play that bad | ||
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Geo.Rion
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
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Bubbas
Sweden76 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:00 Bubbas wrote: sixjaxPainuser or FXOPainuser ^^ Sixjax already seems to be stacked on Terrans... but you never know. They are trying to grow now so they may grab whichever players are available. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
PainUser Zelniq InKa Agh HDStarCraft Response Shew Syckness | ||
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j0k3r
United States577 Posts
On May 11 2011 02:33 Jibba wrote: Of which the name he's never told anyone. ESPORTS comes and goes. This sounds suspect. Who wouldn't want to promote their product, unless it was made for someone else with an NDA involved? At any rate, sorry to see LG go. Best of luck to the players, hoping they can find new teams! | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 11 2011 03:52 Irrational_Animal wrote: The problem is that none of these players would strengthen the top teams so I`m even sceptical if someone like Painuser will be able to contnue his progaming carreer as the smaller teams won`t be able to pay enough salary. ROOT could use a solid Terran to take QXC's place ... | ||
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aDd3z
Germany885 Posts
the only player i really know is painuser and he didnt do that well lately | ||
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price
United States297 Posts
my guess is painuser will be picked up by a team like ROOT, since they just lost qxc (echo above comments) | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:07 FliedLice wrote: Really unfortunate for for InKa, he just left EG, didn't he? :| i really would like to know if he left or did they kick him out | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:16 Betsfrox wrote: i really would like to know if he left or did they kick him out I think idra (or someones else) said on state of the game (or somewhere else) that they parted amicably think he even still lives with idra and machine(??) | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:03 Betsfrox wrote: Here is de Lazarus Gaming roster: PainUser Zelniq InKa Agh HDStarCraft Response Shew Syckness ? So, I don't understand why they would "recruit" a caster in the first place? I'm sure Zelniq and Painuser will be picked up rather quickly.. Bad week for esports in a way, 2 teams gone. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:19 NuKedUFirst wrote: ? So, I don't understand why they would "recruit" a caster in the first place? FXO has several casters on their roster... maye they too had big plans for a league or something like that, who knows | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
!!!!!!!!!!! always sad when i team dispand | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
Edit: As of now, I can't find the tweet. DON'T TRY TO HIDE IT, GEOFF, WE'RE ON TO YOU! | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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DexVitality
Hong Kong234 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:19 NuKedUFirst wrote: ? So, I don't understand why they would "recruit" a caster in the first place? I'm sure Zelniq and Painuser will be picked up rather quickly.. Bad week for esports in a way, 2 teams gone. It's good promotion. | ||
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ScaSully
United States488 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:18 FliedLice wrote: I think idra (or someones else) said on state of the game (or somewhere else) that they parted amicably think he even still lives with idra and machine(??) He still does live in that house. I remember hearing about the disband a while ago on Sotg. I'm really not familiar with many of the players that were on the LG roster so its hard to predict where they will go. Would guess that Painuser is friends with the ROOT team and may find a home there, since they would like another terran. | ||
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Zeles
United States335 Posts
He had one good showing that put him into the spotlight at MLG and the rest of his performances have been disappointing (see most recently: NASL). | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
Woof | ||
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alch
Canada17 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:19 NuKedUFirst wrote: ? So, I don't understand why they would "recruit" a caster in the first place? I'm sure Zelniq and Painuser will be picked up rather quickly.. Bad week for esports in a way, 2 teams gone. What was the other team that is gone? | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
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ESPRITsc
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
Praetoriani is the other team | ||
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snorlax
United States755 Posts
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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HappyZerg
Germany178 Posts
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Valckrie
United Kingdom533 Posts
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Mortal
2943 Posts
go painuser, hopefully another team picks him up relatively quickly (didn't read the whole thread so if he already has, my bad) On May 11 2011 01:33 Betsfrox wrote: men this is so sad on a random note, for w/e reason, that typo made me lol so hard | ||
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TyPsi5
United States204 Posts
you heard it here first | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
IDK everyteam needs an anchor and the only person even close from this team was PainUser who was not doing so well in any tournament showings lately either. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:44 Zeles wrote: I don't know why everyone thinks the big names are ready to pick up Painuser. He had one good showing that put him into the spotlight at MLG and the rest of his performances have been disappointing (see most recently: NASL). He's had success and he has talent, if we judged all pro gamers with the "what have you done for me lately" mentality, I could name some way bigger names for the big teams that have underperformed as of late. It's hard to be consistently at the top of your game for almost a year now, and infact, I really can't think of any top foreigner pro who hasn't been in a slump at some point. edit - And, as posters above me have mentioned, he hasn't had the same time available as he did in the past. That could be contributing to his somewhat lackluster performances lately. | ||
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andrewnguyener
United States548 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:47 R0YAL wrote: RIP Painuser. His tombstone should say "Dark Templar > Banshee" LOL It's a shame he disbanded the team. It was nice of him to put up money to form a team in the first place though. | ||
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
Edit: Forgot to mention that it is indeed a sad day when a team shuts down. Thats two in a very short time. The more the better! | ||
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:37 R0YAL wrote: I heard Noah Lazarus got a girl friend and no one on LG ever heard from him >_< For those of you who dont know, Noah is like a 22 yr old millionaire whom is retired and was a fan of sc2 so he sponsored his own team. do you know what the kid did to get that much money? he should sponsor me so that i dont have to work | ||
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Duoma
United States396 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:44 Zeles wrote: I don't know why everyone thinks the big names are ready to pick up Painuser. He had one good showing that put him into the spotlight at MLG and the rest of his performances have been disappointing (see most recently: NASL). Well north America(especially the U.S.) has a serious lack of solid terrans at the moment. EG for example has what two terrans? Painuser has shown better results than LZgamer, would not be surprised if we saw EG.Painuser in the near future. Regardless, best of luck to the players in finding new teams! | ||
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Tablespoon
Norway223 Posts
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
Man this sucks, first Prae and now LG?!?! NOOOOO | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
On May 11 2011 04:44 Zeles wrote: I don't know why everyone thinks the big names are ready to pick up Painuser. He had one good showing that put him into the spotlight at MLG and the rest of his performances have been disappointing (see most recently: NASL). I'd be surprised if anyone could play very well the day they become unemployed. Really hope he gets picked up by a team. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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xSixGeneralHan
United States528 Posts
On May 11 2011 05:34 Pokebunny wrote: Sucks but not unexpected, management was never too stable there. You can sorta tell by the fact that to my knowledge there was never an announcement by management. Seems like it was left up to the players to tell their friends. | ||
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Frankon
3054 Posts
Its just sad. First Pretorians now Lazarus. | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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wakefield
United Kingdom114 Posts
On May 11 2011 05:46 Betsfrox wrote: Was LG all funded by one guy? no sponsors nothing ?? yeah | ||
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gosublade
632 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
And that almost never works. Ever. Even if that one guy had the best intentions in the world, it's very rare for one person, independently, to just give away money for an undetermined period of time. Did he even have a plan to make money? Oh, kids! | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
LG really had a bunch of likable players, especially Pain and Zelniq. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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StutteR
United States1903 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2011 05:54 StutteR wrote: any news on where PainUser, Agh, and Zelniq ended up? not yet, but trust me when they do it will be on TL asap | ||
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AimForTheBushes
United States1760 Posts
On May 11 2011 05:47 gosublade wrote: Former LG players need to start practicing a lot to get to a new team. Spots don't come easy. They barely were at the minimum of the pro levels, let alone being medicore like Cruncher. Yeah, Painuser beating TLO 2-1 and sweeping iNc last month at MLG was a really "mediocre" feat.. -_- | ||
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teaCher
Canada521 Posts
he not even gosu... | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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teaCher
Canada521 Posts
set up show match, i dont mess around.... | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:08 Xeris wrote: i think they should recruit you sad.wish. LOL I wish zelniq or pain post in this thread, to know if there where told that the team was being disbanded or just happen over night. | ||
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KeyHunt
United States218 Posts
( Not saying that is what happened here, it could have just been he got too busy too..just saying if that's not what happened it would eventually ) | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On May 11 2011 05:51 Defacer wrote: And that almost never works. Ever. Even if that one guy had the best intentions in the world, it's very rare for one person, independently, to just give away money for an undetermined period of time. Did he even have a plan to make money? Oh, kids! Most pro-gaming sponsors don't actually make any money from sponsoring a team (at least not directly). | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:22 LegendaryZ wrote: Most pro-gaming sponsors don't actually make any money from sponsoring a team (at least not directly). yes but they get a lot of exposure, u can take team like EG everytime one of the player wins a game the go like thanks to kingston bla bla bla, and the 20k people watching the stream or something listen | ||
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
On May 11 2011 05:17 Duoma wrote: Well north America(especially the U.S.) has a serious lack of solid terrans at the moment. EG for example has what two terrans? Painuser has shown better results than LZgamer, would not be surprised if we saw EG.Painuser in the near future. Regardless, best of luck to the players in finding new teams! is this a joke? --; | ||
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evoli
United States333 Posts
The next month or so should be interesting; I'm excited to see where everyone ends up. Best of luck to all the players and Noah. | ||
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SiffStarcraft
United States45 Posts
Aww poor Lz! Anyways, LG had a very great roster... hopefully they all find great new homes. | ||
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xSixGeneralHan
United States528 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
Dude you earned like, 20 less rank points than T-Pain at mlg Dallas. Justsayin' | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:41 Betsfrox wrote: yes but they get a lot of exposure, u can take team like EG everytime one of the player wins a game the go like thanks to kingston bla bla bla, and the 20k people watching the stream or something listen Well I was writing mainly to respond to the quote about whether the sponsor ever had a plan to make money. Few sponsors (if any) make money from these teams. Sponsorship is just an advertising cost. The difference here is that a company like Razer obviously has products that their name is attached to. This guy was essentially advertising his name without any product affiliation. It would be the same as a guy renting out a billboard and writing some random message on it rather than putting up a car ad. | ||
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cronican
Canada424 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:50 LegendaryZ wrote: Well I was writing mainly to respond to the quote about whether the sponsor ever had a plan to make money. Few sponsors (if any) make money from these teams. Sponsorship is just an advertising cost. The difference here is that a company like Razer obviously has products that their name is attached to. This guy was essentially advertising his name without any product affiliation. It would be the same as a guy renting out a billboard and writing some random message on it rather than putting up a car ad. yes i know what u are saying, sponsors never gain money, just exposure, i just imagine how many people have the same mouse that idra has just because hi uses it and sais my mouse is steelseries sponsors EG | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:49 gogogadgetflow wrote: Dude you earned like, 20 less rank points than T-Pain at mlg Dallas. Justsayin' Well, LZ had to fight through an open bracket and made it in to the top 32 which is a huge feat in it of itself...so you can't compare it due to MLG's system since it gives a ridiculous advantage to seeded players. | ||
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Rustug
1488 Posts
As for Prae's & LZ's well-known players, they will of course be picked up by other organizations, but what worries me a bit is that SC2 needs these Grass-Roots Teams (as I like to call them) to find, nurture and grow new talent. For example without Praetoriani picking up Thorzain and enabling him to train as a semi- or full professional, i believe, he would never have been in a position to seriously participate and do so well in a tournament like TSL. In TSL he made a name for himself and got himself noticed by one of the larger organizations. I strongly believe that SC2 needs it's "smaller" teams as in the current SC2 scene we do not have a proper system for developing talent on large scale. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but..) Unlike BW in Korea, SC2 teams do not have B-Teams and only a few of the larger organizations like mouz have tournament to find and recruit new talent. And only the larger teams like TL or EG can sustain a large squad and send all members to off-line tournaments. What I'm trying to say is that the disbanding of Praetoriani & Lazarus Gaming will not kill SC2, but it should be considered a significant enough loss and not be so easily pushed aside with a "shit happens" and then become a discussion on who will pick-up who. Show some love for the organization that make it all possible, not just the players. ; ) | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
I'm sure there are a lot of teams out there who'd want to pick up someone of Painuser's quality. Best of luck to the other guys as well. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Not to be rude in any way, but why would it be a joke? PU has outperformed you pretty handily since beta, not that you're bad. It's just that you don't really have results to your name like your teammates do. | ||
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jslocum
United States80 Posts
We shall see... Zelniq, inka, and agh are pretty good, so hopefully they all find nice teams for themselves! | ||
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whiterabbit
2675 Posts
Also, stop bashing Lz - he is one of coolest EG members, I am sure he will show awesome results in future! -,- | ||
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:40 War Horse wrote: They weren't that good anyways. PainUser is ok but hes pretty outmatched in the NASL. Everyone else on the team were Beta-stars Why do you post when you don't know ANYTHING at all. Painuser doesn't play as much as he did MLG Dallas 2010 when he placed 3rd. Even idrA was scared of him in his NASL match but he knew that Painuser hasn't been playing that much | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On May 11 2011 07:36 jslocum wrote: Destiny and Minigun were talking last night on their streams about how they think root needs more players, mostly terran, since there's only 1 terran in root (drewbie), so maybe root will pick up somebody? We shall see... Zelniq, inka, and agh are pretty good, so hopefully they all find nice teams for themselves! Wouldn't InKa probably go back to EG? He was still living in the team house last I heard. | ||
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trikshun
United States437 Posts
On May 11 2011 07:31 hmunkey wrote: Not to be rude in any way, but why would it be a joke? PU has outperformed you pretty handily since beta, not that you're bad. It's just that you don't really have results to your name like your teammates do. He ourtperformed LZ in one event. I hope you learn your facts before you post | ||
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SlipperySnake
248 Posts
Whatever the case I just hope he finds a stable home and as for the other players I just don't know enough to say anything about them. The thing is though Painuser is a name, I mean he has really been serious about putting himself out there and making content so whoever is picking him up is going to make some big news. | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
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HyperLimen
United States278 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:56 Zlasher wrote: Well, LZ had to fight through an open bracket and made it in to the top 32 which is a huge feat in it of itself...so you can't compare it due to MLG's system since it gives a ridiculous advantage to seeded players. On that same note couldn't it be argued that is his fault for underperforming last year and not securing a seed ? Not trying to hate, just wondering ^^ As far as I know he attended all of the MLGs last year. | ||
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Carkis
Canada302 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:50 LegendaryZ wrote: Well I was writing mainly to respond to the quote about whether the sponsor ever had a plan to make money. Few sponsors (if any) make money from these teams. Sponsorship is just an advertising cost. The difference here is that a company like Razer obviously has products that their name is attached to. This guy was essentially advertising his name without any product affiliation. It would be the same as a guy renting out a billboard and writing some random message on it rather than putting up a car ad. Yes, basically what I was saying was that Mr. Lazarus (can't remember his first name) formed a "self-sponsored" team with seemingly no intent of turning it into a real business that attracts sponsors. Lazarus role was (or should have been) closer to aTeam owner, rathe than a third party sponsor looking to market a product. Basically, it's the equivalent of Sir Scoots paying the EG team salaries out of his out pocket, instead of finding sponsors like Intel or Steel Series (I have no idea who owns EG, by the way, Scoots is just an example). | ||
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tofubeans
United States794 Posts
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
On May 11 2011 06:00 AimForTheBushes wrote: Yeah, Painuser beating TLO 2-1 and sweeping iNc last month at MLG was a really "mediocre" feat.. -_- TLO really hasn't done all that much, same with incontrol. TLO's won one or two relatively big tourneys and incontrol is pretty much all based on MLG results. That is pretty mediocre tbh, it's nothing spectacular. Painuser isn't anything special, and he's probably the most accomplished I would say on the team. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 11 2011 07:58 Deadeight wrote: Word on the street is he got a girlfriend with tattoos on her back, and now doesn't have time to run the team. Here she is: ![[image loading]](http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9425/20314810612911764777873.jpg) If it's that red haired girl, then they've been dating for a while actually. Sad to see LG disband since it helped make the NA scene competitive. It would be cool to see Painuser get picked up by Root or EG since both teams need an extra Terran player. I wonder if the reason of disbanding the team is because Noah is working on another project since he did get a lot of money off his iPhone app. | ||
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ShotoElite
United States79 Posts
I can see it now....=D | ||
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kNightLite
United States408 Posts
Both Painuser and Lzgamer are great players, but both of them have pretty trashy TvT which has always held them back. I think it has something to do with the fact that neither of them had Terrans on their team who they could practice with (yeah EG has demuslim but he was awol for a long time due to his injury) Putting the two of them together would fix that weakness and make a dream team =) | ||
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Striding Strider
United Kingdom787 Posts
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AgentSmith
Canada91 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:49 kNightLite wrote: I completely AgreeYeah I really hope EG signs Painuser up. Both Painuser and Lzgamer are great players, but both of them have pretty trashy TvT which has always held them back. I think it has something to do with the fact that neither of them had Terrans on their team who they could practice with (yeah EG has demuslim but he was awol for a long time due to his injury) Putting the two of them together would fix that weakness and make a dream team =) | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:49 kNightLite wrote: Yeah I really hope EG signs Painuser up. Both Painuser and Lzgamer are great players, but both of them have pretty trashy TvT which has always held them back. I think it has something to do with the fact that neither of them had Terrans on their team who they could practice with (yeah EG has demuslim but he was awol for a long time due to his injury) Putting the two of them together would fix that weakness and make a dream team =) I thought Painusers TvT was considered quite good, but then again we haven't seen him around the scene as much recently outside of MLG events and casting. | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:51 Zlasher wrote: I thought Painusers TvT was considered quite good, but then again we haven't seen him around the scene as much recently outside of MLG events and casting. I recall PainUser saying himself that TvT was his weakest match up. | ||
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Duoma
United States396 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:55 Odien wrote: I recall PainUser saying himself that TvT was his weakest match up. Statistically it's his best, that doesn't preclude a lack of confidence in the match up though.  PainUser | ||
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kNightLite
United States408 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:51 Zlasher wrote: I thought Painusers TvT was considered quite good, but then again we haven't seen him around the scene as much recently outside of MLG events and casting. I don't think Painuser has won a TvT at an event ever =P He did edge out TLO at MLG Dallas 2011 but I don't think that counts because TLO just switched from random. Ironically, looking at his liquipedia page, the only Terran he's beat in the past year is LZgamer in an FXO invitational. I wouldn't hold Painuser's NASL results against him, he's definitely got the toughest or 2nd toughest division imo, and he's been doing more casting than playing lately. | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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Rmoney
United States35 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:16 Betsfrox wrote: u can actually hold the nasl results agains painuser, if u look qxc, goody are 0-4 and they are good players Painuser has specifically said he hasn't been training that much either. At least compared to last year's MLG. Put the guy in with Machine and IdrA and I feel his results would soar | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On May 11 2011 01:47 R0YAL wrote: RIP Painuser. His tombstone should say "Dark Templar > Banshee" Here lies Painuser, tragically beaten to death by iNcontroL after saying that a bunker, 2 marines and a turret at every CC 'sounds like a lot of effort' to combat DT's. Seriously though, this news sucks. | ||
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woowoo
France164 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
Very unfortunate to see such a team disbanding. They were definitely one of the higher tier teams in NA. To prevent myself from getting more PM's.. FXO will not be recruiting any more players for now. I wish the best to all the players from LG, they are fantastic people from our experience with them in the FXOIS. I hope to also see them at MLG! Best of luck guys! Ciao Josh | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
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wzzit
United States201 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:18 Rmoney wrote: rest in peace. Response will find a team fast. i really want to see him on root Considering that Catz and Response hate each other, I really doubt this will happen. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:46 wzzit wrote: Considering that Catz and Response hate each other, I really doubt this will happen. Do they? I didn't know that lol. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:46 wzzit wrote: Considering that Catz and Response hate each other, I really doubt this will happen. Catz and Response hate each other????, Catz looks like a friendly guy why the hate each others? | ||
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
On May 11 2011 08:49 kNightLite wrote: Yeah I really hope EG signs Painuser up. Both Painuser and Lzgamer are great players, but both of them have pretty trashy TvT which has always held them back. I think it has something to do with the fact that neither of them had Terrans on their team who they could practice with (yeah EG has demuslim but he was awol for a long time due to his injury) Putting the two of them together would fix that weakness and make a dream team =) While this *was* true.. About a month and half ago, I finally learned TvT.. note* mlg dallas where I beat checksix.BoO, sixjax.CocoA, sixjax.DDE and then this week where I beat MYM.Cloud in the crota clan war league. So while this used to be true I dont feel like my TvT holds me back like it used to. also, I'm not saying im better then painuser. I just dont feel like I should sit around and get bashed for no reason.  | ||
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AdreN-
United States503 Posts
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Special Endrey
Germany1929 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On May 11 2011 10:34 FXOpen wrote: Hi guys, Very unfortunate to see such a team disbanding. They were definitely one of the higher tier teams in NA. To prevent myself from getting more PM's.. FXO will not be recruiting any more players for now. I wish the best to all the players from LG, they are fantastic people from our experience with them in the FXOIS. I hope to also see them at MLG! Best of luck guys! Ciao Josh Haha, TL members so passionate and loving. Sorry if any of the guys caused you an inconvenience, I'm sure everyone meant well. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
GL to all the players from LG on finding new teams. | ||
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Chained
United States137 Posts
Hope they find a new home soon, good players. | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
I do heart painuser though.. But I already got my terrans zergs and protosses.... I am sure he and the others will find a good home. | ||
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Go0g3n
Russian Federation410 Posts
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GummyZerg
United States277 Posts
ROOT definitely needs a good Terran after QXC moving. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
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GummyZerg
United States277 Posts
On May 11 2011 14:34 ZataN wrote: I played someone from this team in a custom (LGEnvy) and he BM'd because i killed the SCV making his rax with my probe. So im pretty happy really, he was a loser and gave his team a bad name. On Gosugamers he isn't on the team roster. | ||
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koolaid1990
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nLazarus
United States16 Posts
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aDd3z
Germany885 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:06 koolaid1990 wrote: Well considering how no one else on EG is good besides idra, i think painuser can pass for the team. DeMusliM & iNcontroL? | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
Demuslim's been out of the ring for a while, and just came back a few weeks ago (broken arm). Incontrol, I'll just not touch this one. | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:20 manicshock wrote: Demuslim's been out of the ring for a while, and just came back a few weeks ago (broken arm). Incontrol, I'll just not touch this one. demuslim has been on the top before his accident and he is still on the top right after. Wait until you see him play in the next league | ||
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manicshock
Canada741 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:26 Tofugrinder wrote: demuslim has been on the top before his accident and he is still on the top right after. Wait until you see him play in the next league I have no doubt he was on top before, just I haven't seen him play since he came back so I can't assume he's in form yet. | ||
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Mudfallz
United States28 Posts
On May 11 2011 14:34 ZataN wrote: I played someone from this team in a custom (LGEnvy) and he BM'd because i killed the SCV making his rax with my probe. So im pretty happy really, he was a loser and gave his team a bad name. I think this just may be a coincidence. LG (Life's Good) is a pretty big manufacturer of electronic goods including cell phones. The LG Envy is one of their cell phones, so the person with that name was more than likely copying that rather than someone on the LG team, | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:06 koolaid1990 wrote: Well considering how no one else on EG is good besides idra, i think painuser can pass for the team. not true, axslav is pretty good | ||
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dragonblade369
Canada464 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:32 Mudfallz wrote: I think this just may be a coincidence. LG (Life's Good) is a pretty big manufacturer of electronic goods including cell phones. The LG Envy is one of their cell phones, so the person with that name was more than likely copying that rather than someone on the LG team, I thought LG stands for Lucky Goldstar O.o | ||
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echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:06 koolaid1990 wrote: Well considering how no one else on EG is good besides idra, i think painuser can pass for the team. I don't know how you're judging how good players are, but I get the feeling that you're judging them based off of tournament wins/performance, which I would argue is not a good measure of how good a professional player is. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On May 11 2011 14:34 ZataN wrote: I played someone from this team in a custom (LGEnvy) and he BM'd because i killed the SCV making his rax with my probe. So im pretty happy really, he was a loser and gave his team a bad name. You know people can name themselves w/e they want right? I've seen people with IM and oGs and Liquid tags and none of them are actually on the team. | ||
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KingVietKong
United States170 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:35 dragonblade369 wrote: I thought LG stands for Lucky Goldstar O.o It does, it's sort of how BP marketed itself as "Better Petrolium" instead of "British Petrolium" when they ran commercials in America. | ||
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
Good luck to all players in LG! | ||
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koolaid1990
831 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:41 echO [W] wrote: I don't know how you're judging how good players are, but I get the feeling that you're judging them based off of tournament wins/performance, which I would argue is not a good measure of how good a professional player is. wtf if you dont base a professional's skill off of their tournament results, what WOULD you base it on? EG has good team tournament results though. | ||
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OptimusYale
Korea (South)1005 Posts
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On May 11 2011 15:06 koolaid1990 wrote: Well considering how no one else on EG is good besides idra, i think painuser can pass for the team. DeMusliM was the no.1 Terran outside Korea not so long ago.. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On May 11 2011 18:09 tyCe wrote: DeMusliM was the no.1 Terran outside Korea not so long ago.. Also, think what you will about Incontrol, I don't see how you can't call him good. I'd put Painuser in the same category as Strifecro, Machine and Axlav. He might pass for the team but I'm not sure it will be much on an improvement. | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
On May 11 2011 18:09 tyCe wrote: DeMusliM was the no.1 Terran outside Korea not so long ago.. Watch out for Demuslim in the upcoming months - super solid Terran imo. | ||
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rbkl
772 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
PainUser to EG? gogo. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
They should ask each of them how is their Sotis skill. They seem to moved to that recently :D | ||
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Rebel_
Canada94 Posts
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
GL HF =) | ||
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Tyree
1508 Posts
Gl to them | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On May 11 2011 18:09 tyCe wrote: DeMusliM was the no.1 Terran outside Korea not so long ago.. And he slaughtered White-Ra in some bo3 in some tournament I watched (forgot which, I think it was commented by day9) shortly after his hand injury. Well, White-Ra had an off-day during that game, but he is still White-Ra... Edit: Wait, that was way off-topic... <.< Regarding LG, I hope their players manage to show some good results soon and get picked up by some other team. Personally, I don't think that they are amongst the best players, but a small part in me wants them to prove me (and certain other people according to the comments here) wrong. | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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PainUser
United States206 Posts
As for me personally, I don't feel that I am in good enough shape at the moment or playing enough to warrant a top team like EG or Root to invest resources in me right now even though I think either would be a great fit. When I am willing to invest more time into myself as a player and SC2 again I will start to work towards joining a new team but for the time being I'm in no rush to make something happen. I will more than likely continue going to National events like MLG to keep meeting such great people and for the experiences. Right now I am very busy with a number of things both on and offline, and struggling just to get by in the NASL. Everyone in my division is a stellar player so I hope people don't judge the results too harshly but you could certainly classify me as being in a slump. I wish all the guys on the team best of luck, we were all good friends and will continue to be such. We had some great times and got to know each other well. The whole experience was, no matter what people may think great. Adopting a new team as a whole squad or creating a new one from scratch is just not an option for obvious reasons. Noah didn't have to invest time/money into the team and most of us knew from the get go that it was a hobby for him and we needed to try and produce some big results to gain some corporate interest in the team. There were letdowns on both the management side and the player side, sadly, it all just didn't come together in the end. P.S. in regards to where all the money comes from and Noah's background, I don't think anyone will ever truly know nor does it really matter. He was willing to invest it in us which is more than most "e-sports teams" with sponsors will even do. | ||
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.Enigma.
Sweden1461 Posts
On May 11 2011 19:49 PainUser wrote: The reason the team died is pretty much on point with most of the conjecture in this thread. Turning an E-Sports team from a hobby that you are willing to invest in, into a self sustaining business requires more time and effort than most people would think. The team did have a very solid pool of talent and tons of potential. We had great chemistry and a will to succeed but producing consistent tournament results is more difficult than people give credit. Besmirching players like the liquid squad, or any other top team for that matter with a "what have you done for me lately" mentality is flat out ignorant. As for me personally, I don't feel that I am in good enough shape at the moment or playing enough to warrant a top team like EG or Root to invest resources in me right now even though I think either would be a great fit. When I am willing to invest more time into myself as a player and SC2 again I will start to work towards joining a new team but for the time being I'm in no rush to make something happen. I will more than likely continue going to National events like MLG to keep meeting such great people and for the experiences. Right now I am very busy with a number of things both on and offline, and struggling just to get by in the NASL. Everyone in my division is a stellar player so I hope people don't judge the results too harshly but you could certainly classify me as being in a slump. I wish all the guys on the team best of luck, we were all good friends and will continue to be such. We had some great times and got to know each other well. The whole experience was, no matter what people may think great. Adopting a new team as a whole squad or creating a new one from scratch is just not an option for obvious reasons. Noah didn't have to invest time/money into the team and most of us knew from the get go that it was a hobby for him and we needed to try and produce some big results to gain some corporate interest in the team. There were letdowns on both the management side and the player side, sadly, it all just didn't come together in the end. P.S. in regards to where all the money comes from and Noah's background, I don't think anyone will ever truly know nor does it really matter. He was willing to invest it in us which is more than most "e-sports teams" with sponsors will even do. Glad to see a response from you, good luck in the future! | ||
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n00b3rt
Bulgaria890 Posts
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lazyfeet
United States468 Posts
On May 11 2011 18:09 tyCe wrote: DeMusliM was the no.1 Terran outside Korea not so long ago.. Wow where did that come from? All i hear how good he was in European tournaments(never watch them) but he hasn't done a thing in the world scene with the few chance he got. And consider the fact that there is so many good terran in the foreign scene he was never the no.1 terran outside of Korea. | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 11 2011 19:49 PainUser wrote: The reason the team died is pretty much on point with most of the conjecture in this thread. Turning an E-Sports team from a hobby that you are willing to invest in, into a self sustaining business requires more time and effort than most people would think. The team did have a very solid pool of talent and tons of potential. We had great chemistry and a will to succeed but producing consistent tournament results is more difficult than people give credit. Besmirching players like the liquid squad, or any other top team for that matter with a "what have you done for me lately" mentality is flat out ignorant. As for me personally, I don't feel that I am in good enough shape at the moment or playing enough to warrant a top team like EG or Root to invest resources in me right now even though I think either would be a great fit. When I am willing to invest more time into myself as a player and SC2 again I will start to work towards joining a new team but for the time being I'm in no rush to make something happen. I will more than likely continue going to National events like MLG to keep meeting such great people and for the experiences. Right now I am very busy with a number of things both on and offline, and struggling just to get by in the NASL. Everyone in my division is a stellar player so I hope people don't judge the results too harshly but you could certainly classify me as being in a slump. I wish all the guys on the team best of luck, we were all good friends and will continue to be such. We had some great times and got to know each other well. The whole experience was, no matter what people may think great. Adopting a new team as a whole squad or creating a new one from scratch is just not an option for obvious reasons. Noah didn't have to invest time/money into the team and most of us knew from the get go that it was a hobby for him and we needed to try and produce some big results to gain some corporate interest in the team. There were letdowns on both the management side and the player side, sadly, it all just didn't come together in the end. P.S. in regards to where all the money comes from and Noah's background, I don't think anyone will ever truly know nor does it really matter. He was willing to invest it in us which is more than most "e-sports teams" with sponsors will even do. I just wonder are u playing less because his losing interest on the game or something else?, kind of wierd that just from nowhere u star to play less SC2 | ||
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On May 11 2011 22:48 Betsfrox wrote: I just wonder are u playing less because his losing interest on the game or something else?, kind of wierd that just from nowhere u star to play less SC2 hes actually been a bit more inactive for several months. | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
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.Enigma.
Sweden1461 Posts
On May 11 2011 14:34 ZataN wrote: I played someone from this team in a custom (LGEnvy) and he BM'd because i killed the SCV making his rax with my probe. So im pretty happy really, he was a loser and gave his team a bad name. You're happy the team disbanded because one of the members BMd you? That makes sense. T_T | ||
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Betsfrox
Venezuela248 Posts
On May 12 2011 17:43 .Enigma. wrote: You're happy the team disbanded because one of the members BMd you? That makes sense. T_T and that guy is not in the LG roster | ||
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Sigz
Canada86 Posts
Sad to hear about the disband. | ||
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purecarnagge
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lightrise
United States1355 Posts
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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ShotoElite
United States79 Posts
On May 14 2011 05:42 Sigz wrote: Any update on any of the players joining new teams? Which team did response join? Sad to hear about the disband. Response joined Newrosoft a team based in romania i think?, So yeah, now he represents them under NrSReSpOnSe, and still lives in the US | ||
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astroorion
United States1022 Posts
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rbkl
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