On February 15 2012 10:19 Zzoram wrote:
Wait, what did that caller even say?
Wait, what did that caller even say?
Called Inc fat, that's it really. Not even a good troll or anything.
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:19 Zzoram wrote: Wait, what did that caller even say? Called Inc fat, that's it really. Not even a good troll or anything. | ||
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Zzoram
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:27 Zzoram wrote: Ask about Idra vs aLive please Goatlust delivers | ||
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Wrongspeedy
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TheEmulator
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di3alot
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On February 15 2012 09:44 hunts wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2012 09:41 _Mittens wrote: I really like how professional starcraft players are better than us at starcraft, and everything else in the world. Am I the only person who feels like most SC2 pros look down on us in general. When they talk about "business strategies" and marketing and PR and all that stuff, they talk down to us. Just because I suck as SC2 doesn't mean I am a dumb person. Talk to me like an equal, please. I'm not really directing this at everyone on the show, just a general sense of frustration. Because most foreign pros DO know a lot about business and PR. They have to, since that's what their sponnsored for, to do PR and be marketable, since they sure as hell aren't the ones getting the results (koreans are.) they do?rly? give me 10 examples about SC2 pros who have a lot of knowledge about business and PR. so basically most of foreigner pros could run an mlg/dreamhack because they understand the business side of such things? and when i hear something from idra like ppv would hurt the growing of sc2 cmon stop dreaming nothing is growing at this point. there is a point with any niche thing where you have a base number and this number will stay hopefully constant. at this point to invest in getting new people in is a waste. you rather invest in keeping the people you have by providing them more awesomeness. i will buy the first mlg arena shit and when i feel thats not worth my money. i will not buy the second one its that easy. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
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Dexington
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:38 Dexington wrote: Can anyone give a summary on the points made regarding Idra/Alive? bassically idra thought he couldnt win and didnt want to play a long drawn out series. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:38 Dexington wrote: Can anyone give a summary on the points made regarding Idra/Alive? IdrA didn't feel like he could come back so he said "fuck it." He also said he only plays showmatches for the money and the fans. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:29 di3alot wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2012 09:44 hunts wrote: On February 15 2012 09:41 _Mittens wrote: I really like how professional starcraft players are better than us at starcraft, and everything else in the world. Am I the only person who feels like most SC2 pros look down on us in general. When they talk about "business strategies" and marketing and PR and all that stuff, they talk down to us. Just because I suck as SC2 doesn't mean I am a dumb person. Talk to me like an equal, please. I'm not really directing this at everyone on the show, just a general sense of frustration. Because most foreign pros DO know a lot about business and PR. They have to, since that's what their sponnsored for, to do PR and be marketable, since they sure as hell aren't the ones getting the results (koreans are.) they do?rly? give me 10 examples about SC2 pros who have a lot of knowledge about business and PR. so basically most of foreigner pros could run an mlg/dreamhack because they understand the business side of such things? and when i hear something from idra like ppv would hurt the growing of sc2 cmon stop dreaming nothing is growing at this point. there is a point with any niche thing where you have a base number and this number will stay hopefully constant. at this point to invest in getting new people in is a waste. you rather invest in keeping the people you have by providing them more awesomeness. i will buy the first mlg arena shit and when i feel thats not worth my money. i will not buy the second one its that easy. A business should always be growing, if not then your business is not really succeeding. Why do you think companies as large as coca cola still advertise. Investing money in growing the scene is a very smart move, an even smarter move is to invest money so that you can do both, grow the scene and please your current subscribers. It doesnt take extensive business knowledge to understand a situation such as this one, all it takes is the ability to compare it to other PPV events (UFC, WWE). Also while SC2 pros may not know more about business than you, you can be sure they know more about the scene than you. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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PirateEd
United States61 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:42 MrDudeMan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2012 10:29 di3alot wrote: On February 15 2012 09:44 hunts wrote: On February 15 2012 09:41 _Mittens wrote: I really like how professional starcraft players are better than us at starcraft, and everything else in the world. Am I the only person who feels like most SC2 pros look down on us in general. When they talk about "business strategies" and marketing and PR and all that stuff, they talk down to us. Just because I suck as SC2 doesn't mean I am a dumb person. Talk to me like an equal, please. I'm not really directing this at everyone on the show, just a general sense of frustration. Because most foreign pros DO know a lot about business and PR. They have to, since that's what their sponnsored for, to do PR and be marketable, since they sure as hell aren't the ones getting the results (koreans are.) they do?rly? give me 10 examples about SC2 pros who have a lot of knowledge about business and PR. so basically most of foreigner pros could run an mlg/dreamhack because they understand the business side of such things? and when i hear something from idra like ppv would hurt the growing of sc2 cmon stop dreaming nothing is growing at this point. there is a point with any niche thing where you have a base number and this number will stay hopefully constant. at this point to invest in getting new people in is a waste. you rather invest in keeping the people you have by providing them more awesomeness. i will buy the first mlg arena shit and when i feel thats not worth my money. i will not buy the second one its that easy. A business should always be growing, if not then your business is not really succeeding. Why do you think companies as large as coca cola still advertise. Investing money in growing the scene is a very smart move, an even smarter move is to invest money so that you can do both, grow the scene and please your current subscribers. It doesnt take extensive business knowledge to understand a situation such as this one, all it takes is the ability to compare it to other PPV events (UFC, WWE). Also while SC2 pros may not know more about business than you, you can be sure they know more about the scene than you. I agree SC2 pros definitely don't know more about business but they probably do know a lot more behind the scenes with MLG and other tournaments. That being said, it would be nice to get an opinion from someone with a degree in this stuff and/or has a lot of experience in business, companies etc. I'm sure there has been but it's probably like 1 in every 500-1000 posts. | ||
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_Mittens
United States168 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:40 Broodwurst wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2012 10:38 Dexington wrote: Can anyone give a summary on the points made regarding Idra/Alive? IdrA didn't feel like he could come back so he said "fuck it." He also said he only plays showmatches for the money and the fans. "for the fans" As a fan, thanks for shitting on my face, idrA. I really enjoyed it. | ||
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Proc31
United Kingdom4 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:50 _Mittens wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2012 10:40 Broodwurst wrote: On February 15 2012 10:38 Dexington wrote: Can anyone give a summary on the points made regarding Idra/Alive? IdrA didn't feel like he could come back so he said "fuck it." He also said he only plays showmatches for the money and the fans. "for the fans" As a fan, thanks for shitting on my face, idrA. I really enjoyed it. You must be a new Idra fan. | ||
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Jinsho
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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tsuxiit
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On February 15 2012 10:50 _Mittens wrote: Show nested quote + On February 15 2012 10:40 Broodwurst wrote: On February 15 2012 10:38 Dexington wrote: Can anyone give a summary on the points made regarding Idra/Alive? IdrA didn't feel like he could come back so he said "fuck it." He also said he only plays showmatches for the money and the fans. "for the fans" As a fan, thanks for shitting on my face, idrA. I really enjoyed it. I don't think you know what a "fan" is. | ||
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Drascus
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