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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
February 15 2012 20:35 GMT
#3541
On February 16 2012 03:53 Hashbaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 19:08 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Do anyone know where I can watch episode 30? I thought they had a break after 29 and then I get 31 without seeing 30. Can't find it in the twitch archives. It's like the lost episode.

FWIW, an mp3 of episode 30 is at http://soundcloud.com/ghanaccount/insidethegame-30.


Thank you. Audio only is better than nothing. xo
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
imbatroll
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden27 Posts
February 15 2012 23:25 GMT
#3542
Does he ever upload the VOD's? If Yes, where can I find them?
I always miss this show and I never find the VODS.
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
February 15 2012 23:42 GMT
#3543
On February 16 2012 08:25 imbatroll wrote:
Does he ever upload the VOD's? If Yes, where can I find them?
I always miss this show and I never find the VODS.

Twitch has em:

http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv
http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/308599588
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MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 06:50:04
February 18 2012 22:10 GMT
#3544
@topic/question

This is a question for everyone, and its kind of long so bare with me. My question is whether the hosts think it would be a good idea to change the tech path of the roach and the hydralisk around. Basically I'm saying make the hydra den a T1 building and the roach warren a T2 building. Here are a few short reasons why I think this would be a good decision.

- The roach is very supply inefficient mid-late game
- The hydra is awful during most parts of the game because its not strong enough for its cost
- The roach is difficult to balance because buffing it would making it too strong early game
- The hydra just doesnt seem to be getting buffed for some reason, I guess blizzard hates it
- Its also a T2 light unit, which is awful because its too squishy and too slow (seriously light units should be fastest units)
- Obviously the hydra would need a nerf to its dps, and maybe a boost to its speed (not too much though, just enough to navigate between your own bases)
- Having hydras T1 would make zerg less vulnerable in the early game to things like stargate play and 2 base all ins (since hydras have more range than roaches and do not take extra immortal damage)
- Having stronger roaches T2 (which cost more and have either a damage or range buff and can actually beat blink stalkers) would make it so zerg can actually put pressure back on a protoss player, and the protoss player cannot simply sit on 2 bases until they max.
- While this will make zerg stronger in the early and mid game against protoss, ultimately these units will melt against a T3 toss army (colossus/HT)
- Also because of the hydras slow movement off creep zerg cant continously swarm the toss until toss dies.

Obviously its very hard to predict the metagame after a change like this. But I think switching the two units around would really be beneficial in ZvP, while not changing much in ZvT (except maybe finally having a viable unit against mech). ZvZ could be a problem as early ling/bling attack would be impossible to hold off with hydra ling, but I think zergs would be willing to take it.

To clarify, the point of switching the two units is to provide zerg with some decent anti air, and to provide them with a stronger backbone unit than the roach. This will make it a bit easier for the zerg to stay alive early-mid game, without really effecting the end game army compositions.
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
February 18 2012 23:27 GMT
#3545
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 19 2012 07:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
@topic/question

This is a question for everyone, and its kind of long so bare with me. My question is whether the hosts think it would be a good idea to change the tech path of the roach and the hydralisk around. Basically I'm saying make the hydra den a T1 building and the roach warren a T2 building. Here are a few short reasons why I think this would be a good decision.

- The roach is very supply inefficient mid-late game
- The hydra is awful during most parts of the game because its not strong enough for its cost
- The roach is difficult to balance because buffing it would making it too strong early game
- The hydra just doesnt seem to be getting buffed for some reason, I guess blizzard hates it
- Its also a T2 light unit, which is awful because its too squishy and too slow (seriously light units should be fastest units)
- Obviously the hydra would need a nerf to its dps, and maybe a boost to its speed (not too much though, just enough to navigate between your own bases)
- Having hydras T1 would make zerg less vulnerable in the early game to things like stargate play and 2 base all ins (since hydras have more range than roaches and do not take extra immortal damage)
- Having stronger roaches T2 (which cost more and have either a damage or range buff and can actually beat blink stalkers) would make it so zerg can actually put pressure back on a protoss player, and the protoss player cannot simply sit on 2 bases until they max.
- While this will make zerg stronger in the early and mid game against protoss, ultimately these units will melt against a T3 toss army (colossus/HT)
- Also because of the hydras slow movement off creep zerg cant continously swarm the toss until toss dies.

Obviously its very hard to predict the metagame after a change like this. But I think switching the two units around would really be beneficial in ZvP, while not changing much in ZvT (except maybe finally having a viable unit against mech). ZvZ could be a problem as early ling/bling attack would be impossible to hold off with hydra ling, but I think zergs would be willing to take it.



Every terran would open blue flame hellion and expand to 3 bases without you being able to do anything about it.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
February 19 2012 00:22 GMT
#3546
On February 19 2012 08:27 NeonFox wrote:
Every terran would open blue flame hellion and expand to 3 bases without you being able to do anything about it.


Yea I realized that blue flame hellion openings would be strong. But I figured there could be some lair roach timings to counteract it.
Parodoxx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States549 Posts
February 21 2012 05:08 GMT
#3547
Where in the world is Inside the Game episode 30 with Idra?

Twitch has ep 29 and 31 but no 30. Jesus please get the site in order.
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
February 21 2012 11:50 GMT
#3548
On February 21 2012 14:08 Parodoxx wrote:
Where in the world is Inside the Game episode 30 with Idra?

Twitch has ep 29 and 31 but no 30. Jesus please get the site in order.


On February 16 2012 03:53 Hashbaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 19:08 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Do anyone know where I can watch episode 30? I thought they had a break after 29 and then I get 31 without seeing 30. Can't find it in the twitch archives. It's like the lost episode.

FWIW, an mp3 of episode 30 is at http://soundcloud.com/ghanaccount/insidethegame-30.

The theory is that Wheat deleted it because near the end miniWheat runs into frame naked. Fortunately we have the mp3.
ESPORTS prevails
Spectreman
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil52 Posts
February 21 2012 14:47 GMT
#3549
I was only searching for the MP3 version in iTunes. Inside the Game don´t have MP3 anymore, only the video version in the iTunes? (I download the mp3 now, thks for the links in this topic).
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
February 21 2012 14:56 GMT
#3550
Yeah, it doesn't as of right now. Wheat said something like his setup does not allow for simultaneous mp3 recording so it would cost him extra time to do that, so he wouldn't be able to do that for the time being.
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
February 21 2012 18:56 GMT
#3551
Any news on today's show? ITG isn't showing up on the TL calendar.
ESPORTS prevails
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 21 2012 18:58 GMT
#3552
Onemoregametv announced no shows this week as Wheat is still moving/setting up!

Sorry for the inconvenience.
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
February 21 2012 19:05 GMT
#3553
Ah yes that's right, Wheat even said that on last week's show. Thanks for responding Geoff.
ESPORTS prevails
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-21 19:10:09
February 21 2012 19:09 GMT
#3554
Will RSS feed be updated? It shows Inside the Game E25 - 12/13/11 as the last one?
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
February 21 2012 19:10 GMT
#3555
On February 22 2012 04:09 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Will RSS feed be updated? It shows Inside the Game E25 - 12/13/11 as the last one?

I've been posting links to ep 30 and 31, read the last few pages.
ESPORTS prevails
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
February 22 2012 17:40 GMT
#3556
On February 19 2012 07:10 MrDudeMan wrote:
@topic/question

This is a question for everyone, and its kind of long so bare with me. My question is whether the hosts think it would be a good idea to change the tech path of the roach and the hydralisk around. Basically I'm saying make the hydra den a T1 building and the roach warren a T2 building. Here are a few short reasons why I think this would be a good decision.

- The roach is very supply inefficient mid-late game
- The hydra is awful during most parts of the game because its not strong enough for its cost
- The roach is difficult to balance because buffing it would making it too strong early game
- The hydra just doesnt seem to be getting buffed for some reason, I guess blizzard hates it
- Its also a T2 light unit, which is awful because its too squishy and too slow (seriously light units should be fastest units)
- Obviously the hydra would need a nerf to its dps, and maybe a boost to its speed (not too much though, just enough to navigate between your own bases)
- Having hydras T1 would make zerg less vulnerable in the early game to things like stargate play and 2 base all ins (since hydras have more range than roaches and do not take extra immortal damage)
- Having stronger roaches T2 (which cost more and have either a damage or range buff and can actually beat blink stalkers) would make it so zerg can actually put pressure back on a protoss player, and the protoss player cannot simply sit on 2 bases until they max.
- While this will make zerg stronger in the early and mid game against protoss, ultimately these units will melt against a T3 toss army (colossus/HT)
- Also because of the hydras slow movement off creep zerg cant continously swarm the toss until toss dies.

Obviously its very hard to predict the metagame after a change like this. But I think switching the two units around would really be beneficial in ZvP, while not changing much in ZvT (except maybe finally having a viable unit against mech). ZvZ could be a problem as early ling/bling attack would be impossible to hold off with hydra ling, but I think zergs would be willing to take it.

To clarify, the point of switching the two units is to provide zerg with some decent anti air, and to provide them with a stronger backbone unit than the roach. This will make it a bit easier for the zerg to stay alive early-mid game, without really effecting the end game army compositions.


I would switch the hydra to spawning pool tech, add a speed increase at lair (from 2.5 to 3), starting speed of 2.5, atk of 7, 60 health. Then move roach to tier 2 and give it a defense upgrade, lower the natural speed to 2.25 and have the speed increase go to 2.75, also, I would look and test giving roaches a +dmg to light units so it actually does well vs what it does in the lore.
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 00:36:11
February 25 2012 00:15 GMT
#3557
On February 16 2012 08:42 Hashbaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 08:25 imbatroll wrote:
Does he ever upload the VOD's? If Yes, where can I find them?
I always miss this show and I never find the VODS.

Twitch has em:

http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv
http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/308599588

is there a reason why he doesent uploed the episodes any more? yes i know, the newest episodes have been linked into this thread, but that doesnt answer the question. maybe i just missed a statement..?
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
February 27 2012 08:59 GMT
#3558
On February 22 2012 04:09 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Will RSS feed be updated? It shows Inside the Game E25 - 12/13/11 as the last one?


the RSS feed will no longer be updated. blip.tv removed the convert to audio only setting that wheat used to provide with mp3s.
The Show of a Lifetime
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
February 28 2012 22:35 GMT
#3559
DeMuslim going to be on! Thank you!
EG.DeMuslim --- EG.ThorZain --- TSL.Polt --- LGIMMvp --- Mill.fOrGG --- EG.Stephano --- EGiNcontroL --- EG.IdrA --- MarineKing.Prime --- SlayerS_MMA --- Liquid'Hero
statikg
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada930 Posts
February 29 2012 00:09 GMT
#3560
is it cancelled?
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