• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:30
CET 14:30
KST 22:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)1Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win2RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? [BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D) soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft What happened to TvZ on Retro?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2051 users

"Terran is the weakest race" - MVP, IM House Tour - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 27 28 29 Next All
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 24 2011 03:08 GMT
#61
You heard it here. The force is strong with dimaga
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
April 24 2011 03:10 GMT
#62
I think this just reinforces how people how people who the best at game are not necessarily the best at balancing a game.
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#63
thx artosis, great vids.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 03:12:05
April 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#64
On April 24 2011 12:06 Mailing wrote:
terran is pretty good right now.

Sigh, fuck it.

Terran at the highest level is definitely the most awesome race.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
uSnAmplified
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1029 Posts
April 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#65
On April 24 2011 12:08 Alejandrisha wrote:
You heard it here. The force is strong with dimaga
So true
Thanks for all the great interviews artosis, now go interview slayers clan!
~
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 03:12:23
April 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#66
On April 24 2011 12:06 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 12:04 SilverPotato wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:00 Mailing wrote:
Weakest? Hardly.

Maybe hardest to play, but even that is stretching it.

I'm sorry but it's not beta anymore...

Yeah, then you ruined it.


What the hell does not being beta have to do with anything? Terran was confirmed overpowered after months of crushing tourney results, and nerfed. Now they are doing well. They are not doing bad nor are they doing too good, terran is pretty good right now.

Yeah those months of winning are from the first patches, you make it sound like race takes time to lose power, when really one patch can throw the entire game off kilter. You also seem to be blowing my speculation that T is UP out of preposition. I don't think it's impossible to win as Terran, just from what I've seen, Terran has to put a higher level of work in to get a win than say... Protoss (respect for you Zerg players out there).
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
XothermeK
Profile Joined May 2010
United Arab Emirates245 Posts
April 24 2011 03:11 GMT
#67
Yes MVP, you are right, Terran is definitely the weakest race, ever since beta all Terran has gotten were nerfs, and other races got buffs for some reason, and now after the infestor buff, TvZ is looking to be so much tougher in the late game, there is no way you can deal with equal base macro late game vs Zerg that goes for the Corruptor/Infestor/BroodLord combination, infestors tare through armored and bio units with fungal and on top of it immobilizes units and do +30% damage against armored over time, and then corruptors come in and corrupt units making them take +20% extra damage, talk about an overkill, right?

Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
April 24 2011 03:12 GMT
#68
On April 24 2011 12:10 Nothingtosay wrote:
I think this just reinforces how people how people who the best at game are not necessarily the best at balancing a game.

And yet every time Idra comments on balance, we get 45345436 threads asking "(Zerg unit) is it viable anymore" "Zerg - an inherent disadvantage?" "Can Zerg compete at the highest level?"
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
April 24 2011 03:12 GMT
#69
On April 24 2011 12:11 XothermeK wrote:
Yes MVP, you are right, Terran is definitely the weakest race...

How the fuck should you know?

User was warned for this post
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
April 24 2011 03:14 GMT
#70
I agree Terran is weakest on these big maps. But I play Terran so I may be biased.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
April 24 2011 03:15 GMT
#71
Thanks for the videos as always!
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 24 2011 03:18 GMT
#72
On April 24 2011 12:14 DooMDash wrote:
I agree Terran is weakest on these big maps. But I play Terran so I may be biased.


agreed. It takes a while to re-enforce your army when your pushing towards your opponents base.
blah blah blah...
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 24 2011 03:18 GMT
#73
On April 24 2011 12:04 SilverPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 12:00 Mailing wrote:
Weakest? Hardly.

Maybe hardest to play, but even that is stretching it.

I'm sorry but it's not beta anymore...

Yeah T is much harder than zerg and especially toss.


How? Mechanically? Zerg is clearly harder mechanically, just the nature of the race and balancing drone/unit production.
babyToSS
Profile Joined December 2009
233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 03:19:51
April 24 2011 03:18 GMT
#74
I don't know about TvZ, although late game is definitely difficult due to infestors destroying marines and marines being an absolute must against zerg air. However, I will hold judgement till Terrans start using a lot more ghosts in late game TvZ.

Having said that TvP is pretty hard atm and it has quite a lot to do with bio without stim being not really that good against toss. The late stim does a lot more than take out stim rushes (they were kinda lame anyways) but it makes early game toss alot more safer which sets them up for a much stronger mid-game.
Mech is definitely a viable choice but watching pro matches is a lot different than playing it and mech positioning is so darn unforgiving in TvP that I much rather prefer having a bunch of marines against banes.

Edit: Balance discussion aside these are really good interviews and is interesting to see pros mirror a little bit of the communities sentiments.
babyToSS here! Can u go easy on me plzzz?
unoriginalname
Profile Joined November 2010
England380 Posts
April 24 2011 03:18 GMT
#75
It's mind-boggling that Incredible Miracle still don't have sponsors. Even if LosirA was invited to Europe/U.S. how would he procure the funds to get there at a low-risk rate.
Hmmm
Dragar
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom971 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 03:19:51
April 24 2011 03:19 GMT
#76
I don't think Z is harder mechnically until late game.

Judgement wise, it's a lot harder given how easy it is to lose to unscoutable all-in attacks.
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
April 24 2011 03:19 GMT
#77
That's too many people living in a small apt.
People is diying.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
April 24 2011 03:19 GMT
#78
On April 24 2011 12:18 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 12:14 DooMDash wrote:
I agree Terran is weakest on these big maps. But I play Terran so I may be biased.


agreed. It takes a while to re-enforce your army when your pushing towards your opponents base.

Give Terran drop pods wot wot! ^____^
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
April 24 2011 03:20 GMT
#79
Hooray, new house tour :>

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=FA0D5122DF1354C4 <- Playlist of all those vids
Greek Mythology 2.0: Imagine Sisyphos as a man who wants to watch all videos on youtube... and Tityos as one who HAS to watch all of them.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
April 24 2011 03:20 GMT
#80
Do they all eat at their computers or something?
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 27 28 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
Qualifier #1
WardiTV753
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko367
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5318
Calm 3974
actioN 3778
Horang2 3492
Rain 2209
Bisu 1888
Hyuk 1082
Larva 665
BeSt 564
Soma 508
[ Show more ]
Stork 463
firebathero 353
ZerO 318
Snow 313
Light 302
Mini 288
Hyun 206
Killer 126
Pusan 123
hero 117
Rush 108
PianO 104
Barracks 78
ToSsGirL 60
Leta 54
Sharp 47
soO 40
Mind 37
Backho 36
Terrorterran 27
Sacsri 23
ajuk12(nOOB) 23
sorry 20
Yoon 16
zelot 15
Free 11
SilentControl 11
Bale 9
HiyA 8
Aegong 7
Dota 2
singsing2390
Gorgc2059
qojqva1563
XcaliburYe97
420jenkins67
League of Legends
Reynor66
Trikslyr23
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2242
oskar140
Other Games
B2W.Neo1246
crisheroes381
Fuzer 346
Pyrionflax222
hiko144
Mew2King122
QueenE108
MindelVK20
ArmadaUGS19
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1972
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream258
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 3
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV383
• lizZardDota234
League of Legends
• Jankos1810
• Nemesis1519
• TFBlade293
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
11h 30m
Replay Cast
19h 30m
Wardi Open
22h 30m
OSC
23h 30m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 10h
The PondCast
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
OSC
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.