EPTI dont care if you cheese or not, but dont start your post by saying "This is a bad thing to do, and even though I do it all the time it isn't really who I am". Actually, your actions DO make you who you are.
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
I dont care if you cheese or not, but dont start your post by saying "This is a bad thing to do, and even though I do it all the time it isn't really who I am". Actually, your actions DO make you who you are. | ||
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kzn
United States1218 Posts
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:21 rottenpotato wrote: Protoss players got absolutely pissed(most), and I don't blame them. That VTWhiplash guy's brain exploded. The replay pack is more to see the BM that people portray or if people want to learn how to stop it. It includes all the games I lost as well. yeah it's a really stupid attitude people have against cheesers. Part of standard play is actually mixing in the extremes. Even Jaedong 4 pools, july won an OSL mainly cheesing, etc. MC with 150,000 in winnings still 4 gates / stargates cheeses a pretty good chunk of his games. Adopting an idra attitude towards cheesing is ridiculous. There are so many non masters that explain "I could just cheese to masters". You actually should cheese to masters and at least learn to execute / implement a decent build order. You still will get a lot of practice refining for instance a 4 warpgate or w.e. build it is. Better practice than floating 500 minerals and massing carriers on one base. | ||
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rottenpotato
Canada130 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:26 ElusoryX wrote: how do you even check your mmr? I was going off the rating of the people I was playing. To be entirely fair their mmr at the time could have been(and was most likely, since it fluctuates constantly) higher or lower than their actual. It seemed to be more and more steady towards the end of the week though. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
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CanucksJC
Canada1241 Posts
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:26 Whiplash wrote: Lol ya I tend to get pretty angry when I lose to cheese. I am much more experienced vs 6 pool now though, so I challenge you to a 6 pool rematch whenever! My rage is never a personal attack of hatred, just me venting my frustration. (also blizz should make a spawning pool require 2 overlords, dustin browder's excuse for keeping 6 pool in the game is that they want the player to be on the edge of their seat from the start of the game which is some BS) Im Zerg and I agree. But yes you do get very angry when you lose to cheese. From an outside perspective its actually very entertaining  | ||
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rottenpotato
Canada130 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:27 Bonkarooni wrote: Wait..you don't condone cheesing, yet you cheesed for like a week straight and ruined everyone elses ladder experience? I dont care if you cheese or not, but dont start your post by saying "This is a bad thing to do, and even though I do it all the time it isn't really who I am". Actually, your actions DO make you who you are. I didn't say it was a bad thing to do, I said I don't normally do it. The rest of your response - right. If i were to put out one fire with a hose, could I say I'm a fire-fighter? | ||
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khchosEN
United States3 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:28 dacthehork wrote: yeah it's a really stupid attitude people have against cheesers. Part of standard play is actually mixing in the extremes. Even Jaedong 4 pools, july won an OSL mainly cheesing, etc. MC with 150,000 in winnings still 4 gates / stargates cheeses a pretty good chunk of his games. Adopting an idra attitude towards cheesing is ridiculous. There are so many non masters that explain "I could just cheese to masters". You actually should cheese to masters and at least learn to execute / implement a decent build order. You still will get a lot of practice refining for instance a 4 warpgate or w.e. build it is. Better practice than floating 500 minerals and massing carriers on one base. Even IdrA 6 pools sometimes | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
I was going to write a guide on 7 pooling, maybe I will. | ||
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Baby_Seal
United States360 Posts
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Kira761
United States62 Posts
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Deleted User 108965
1096 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:31 CanucksJC wrote: Umm no... if you scout 6 pool second last or last on 4 player maps, you lose. I'm pretty sure it's unwinnable if you scout last on these huge maps now lol. You scout their base when lings are already in :s yeah i find thats what makes it so frustrating  . i 9 scout just for that reason and it still seems impossible sometimes | ||
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rottenpotato
Canada130 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:30 Treadmill wrote: I knew that as a terran its relatively easier for me to hold off a 6-pool, but I hadn't realized HOW much easier. Any particular reason that you were being so unsuccessful versus T? Were you not trying to drone-block the wall-in then? No, I wasn't. There really isn't enough time to get a drone out of your base to scout that early. With the fastest possible 6pool timing, the second block depot will have started and a marine should almost be ready. | ||
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TurtlePerson2
United States218 Posts
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
It should be a coin toss bad players use to get free wins, but currently it's a legit strategy and random who can micro well can get into high masters with. It's why there has been so many fading players like bit by bit, people who win one game against a top player, get a fanclub, then die off. | ||
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Durn
Canada360 Posts
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Art_of_Kill
Zaire1232 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:26 Whiplash wrote: (also blizz should make a spawning pool require 2 overlords) and warp gate should require two nexus ... | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
And wouldn't this get owned by a 9/10 pool pretty hard? | ||
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rottenpotato
Canada130 Posts
On April 11 2011 07:33 Kira761 wrote: using sc2gears your W/L ratio vs p was more like 60% and z 64% >.> and lol at 30% of the terrans you faced losing to this. what did they do 15cc the games they lost? I had to guesstimate, and my guesstimate was based on my overall experience on the way up. It definitely gets a lot harder to pull off near the top. Thanks for the fix though. | ||
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