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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 10 2011 03:17 GMT
#461
On August 10 2011 11:42 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 04:49 Bad_Habit wrote:
made masterleague in less than 6 hrs

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2684458/Quark

wow.. you shouldnt be able to do this...

It's no different than 4gating or 3raxscv all in to grandmasters except that the games are even shorter

Ladder games mean nothing. In BO3 (actual tournaments), you will be screwed
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
August 10 2011 16:45 GMT
#462
livestream.com/scarab for those who are still interested
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
bLingKing
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada33 Posts
August 10 2011 16:48 GMT
#463
gj man great thread, 6-7pool is obviously the way to play starcraft! thanks for the tip
l3iRdMaN
Profile Joined February 2004
United States72 Posts
August 10 2011 17:14 GMT
#464
Why would you waste your time doing this? What are you trying to prove?
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
August 10 2011 17:16 GMT
#465
so i NEVER cheese (6/7 pool) on ladder, after reading this thread a few days ago i 6 pooled the first protoss I came across on shakuras. He left game and pmed me after about "being a fucking jew who 6 pools and cant do anything else" and that i should "rot and burn in hell"

i loled, but probably wont do it again.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 10 2011 18:05 GMT
#466
On August 11 2011 02:16 neo_sporin wrote:
so i NEVER cheese (6/7 pool) on ladder, after reading this thread a few days ago i 6 pooled the first protoss I came across on shakuras. He left game and pmed me after about "being a fucking jew who 6 pools and cant do anything else" and that i should "rot and burn in hell"

i loled, but probably wont do it again.

Punishes greedy protoss, I don't know why you wouldn't utilize such a build in your arsenal

Even idra, a known macro player, will mix it in. Of course, if it is the only strategy your mechanics can handle, then that's bad.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
August 10 2011 18:48 GMT
#467
i dont want to proof anything, ppl seemed to be interested since i got multible requests for replays.
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
August 10 2011 18:51 GMT
#468
On August 10 2011 12:17 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 11:42 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:49 Bad_Habit wrote:
made masterleague in less than 6 hrs

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2684458/Quark

wow.. you shouldnt be able to do this...

It's no different than 4gating or 3raxscv all in to grandmasters except that the games are even shorter

Ladder games mean nothing. In BO3 (actual tournaments), you will be screwed

yeah cos people doing those totally take the game 100% seriously and want to become the best player in the world'Z , oh wait...no
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
August 12 2011 14:50 GMT
#469
i would give away like 1 recent replay against every race. i have no idea how to upload it so if theres interest plz someone PM me who has icq/msn/skype, ill send you the replays and you can upload them for me
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 16:50:43
August 12 2011 16:49 GMT
#470
On August 10 2011 12:17 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 11:42 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:49 Bad_Habit wrote:
made masterleague in less than 6 hrs

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2684458/Quark

wow.. you shouldnt be able to do this...

It's no different than 4gating or 3raxscv all in to grandmasters except that the games are even shorter

Ladder games mean nothing. In BO3 (actual tournaments), you will be screwed


No, it's not. If you play standard you will probably either: not scout the 6 pool in time, or you may to late (depending on the map).

4 Gate and 3 Rax scv are all predictable and scoutable. 6 pool is not.

The reason why it has such a high win % against Protoss typically is when the Toss attempts an expansion build of some sort it is practically impossible to stop (like on Shakuras or Taldarim).

IMO, 6 Pool is a stupid strategy and harder to stop for Protoss than the other two races.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 16:51:53
August 12 2011 16:51 GMT
#471
On August 11 2011 03:05 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 02:16 neo_sporin wrote:
so i NEVER cheese (6/7 pool) on ladder, after reading this thread a few days ago i 6 pooled the first protoss I came across on shakuras. He left game and pmed me after about "being a fucking jew who 6 pools and cant do anything else" and that i should "rot and burn in hell"

i loled, but probably wont do it again.

Punishes greedy protoss, I don't know why you wouldn't utilize such a build in your arsenal

Even idra, a known macro player, will mix it in. Of course, if it is the only strategy your mechanics can handle, then that's bad.

Idra only 6pools out of desperation and frustration .
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
August 12 2011 16:58 GMT
#472
On August 13 2011 01:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 12:17 101toss wrote:
On August 10 2011 11:42 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:49 Bad_Habit wrote:
made masterleague in less than 6 hrs

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2684458/Quark

wow.. you shouldnt be able to do this...

It's no different than 4gating or 3raxscv all in to grandmasters except that the games are even shorter

Ladder games mean nothing. In BO3 (actual tournaments), you will be screwed


No, it's not. If you play standard you will probably either: not scout the 6 pool in time, or you may to late (depending on the map).

4 Gate and 3 Rax scv are all predictable and scoutable. 6 pool is not.

The reason why it has such a high win % against Protoss typically is when the Toss attempts an expansion build of some sort it is practically impossible to stop (like on Shakuras or Taldarim).

IMO, 6 Pool is a stupid strategy and harder to stop for Protoss than the other two races.


6 pool is an awful strategy and while harder to stop with protoss, if you are a good player you should be capable of holding it with any race without walling off. Im not saying I never lose to it, but I cant micro my probes perfectly all the time. I mass 6 pool a lot on the ladder when im bored and I can tell you that it is one of the least powerful cheeses.

Also, ladder is a competition, that's what ladder is. You try to get more points by winning. While ladder may be 'meaningless' to pros and used for practice, most people use ladder as their competition and so theres no point in saying 'These alliners arent gonna be the best player they can be' because they might be getting more points off allining and cheesing than they would by playing standard, in which case allining/cheesing all the time makes sense. Now, cheesing when youre practicing with a friend in a custom is stupid. But even cheesing in a custom game is a way to win the game, and thats what your intent is when entering any competition, to win.
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
August 12 2011 17:02 GMT
#473
the lack of scout as zerg brought me to 6pooling. u CANT scout effiecient as a zerg. u ca send in 2 overlords, lose them and still u wont have an idea about whats going on.
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
August 12 2011 17:03 GMT
#474
On August 13 2011 02:02 Bad_Habit wrote:
the lack of scout as zerg brought me to 6pooling. u CANT scout effiecient as a zerg. u ca send in 2 overlords, lose them and still u wont have an idea about whats going on.

get ovie speed >.<
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
August 12 2011 17:08 GMT
#475
On August 13 2011 02:03 Welmu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 02:02 Bad_Habit wrote:
the lack of scout as zerg brought me to 6pooling. u CANT scout effiecient as a zerg. u ca send in 2 overlords, lose them and still u wont have an idea about whats going on.

get ovie speed >.<

stop trolling plz
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
Bad_Habit
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany243 Posts
September 10 2011 21:00 GMT
#476
i finally decided to get some replays uploaded. u can find them here:

http://drop.sc/search?player=#101062 (stagaming on europe)
http://drop.sc/search?player=#78074 (FameToFlame on NA)

enjoy
I only gg vs protoss when I'm winning
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
September 10 2011 21:05 GMT
#477
On August 13 2011 02:02 Bad_Habit wrote:
the lack of scout as zerg brought me to 6pooling. u CANT scout effiecient as a zerg. u ca send in 2 overlords, lose them and still u wont have an idea about whats going on.

That is absolutely retarded, and I play z myself. Zerg lacks means of scouting in the early/early-mid game, but using it as an excuse to 6pool? Rofl.
no dude, the question
RDaneelOlivaw
Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
September 10 2011 21:06 GMT
#478
On August 13 2011 01:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 12:17 101toss wrote:
On August 10 2011 11:42 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:49 Bad_Habit wrote:
made masterleague in less than 6 hrs

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2684458/Quark

wow.. you shouldnt be able to do this...

It's no different than 4gating or 3raxscv all in to grandmasters except that the games are even shorter

Ladder games mean nothing. In BO3 (actual tournaments), you will be screwed


No, it's not. If you play standard you will probably either: not scout the 6 pool in time, or you may to late (depending on the map).

4 Gate and 3 Rax scv are all predictable and scoutable. 6 pool is not.

The reason why it has such a high win % against Protoss typically is when the Toss attempts an expansion build of some sort it is practically impossible to stop (like on Shakuras or Taldarim).

IMO, 6 Pool is a stupid strategy and harder to stop for Protoss than the other two races.

6/7 pools are builds designed to punish Protoss for doing greedy builds. Forge fes, particularly nexus first, are "eco cheese"---you are taking a risk to get a superior mid-late game. You can't honestly expect Zergs to just let you do that
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
September 10 2011 21:10 GMT
#479
On September 11 2011 06:06 GGTesomas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 01:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On August 10 2011 12:17 101toss wrote:
On August 10 2011 11:42 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On August 10 2011 04:49 Bad_Habit wrote:
made masterleague in less than 6 hrs

http://sc2ranks.com/us/2684458/Quark

wow.. you shouldnt be able to do this...

It's no different than 4gating or 3raxscv all in to grandmasters except that the games are even shorter

Ladder games mean nothing. In BO3 (actual tournaments), you will be screwed


No, it's not. If you play standard you will probably either: not scout the 6 pool in time, or you may to late (depending on the map).

4 Gate and 3 Rax scv are all predictable and scoutable. 6 pool is not.

The reason why it has such a high win % against Protoss typically is when the Toss attempts an expansion build of some sort it is practically impossible to stop (like on Shakuras or Taldarim).

IMO, 6 Pool is a stupid strategy and harder to stop for Protoss than the other two races.

6/7 pools are builds designed to punish Protoss for doing greedy builds. Forge fes, particularly nexus first, are "eco cheese"---you are taking a risk to get a superior mid-late game. You can't honestly expect Zergs to just let you do that


That logic is so dumb. FFE isn't eco-cheese in any sense. It isn't taking any risk besides to 7 pools, and even then it'll win if the zerg scouts the toss last/toss pylon scouts the zerg first. You are just crossing your fingers and hoping for a lucky coin flip, not punishing anything.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 10 2011 21:13 GMT
#480
Naniwa did a total bossmode 6pool defense in NASL. Look it up
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