EPT6-7 Pool to Top 400 NA - Your Thoughts? - Page 18
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iSometric
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Sixes
Canada1123 Posts
It seems relatively obvious that it will fall apart at some point (as you discovered) but I am surprised it was so late. As for the BM, don't worry, I just got told zerg were "%$@#ing op" after I did a hatch first, defended a 4 gate then proceeded to outmacro him ... The sad truth is a lot of toss on ladder only know their 4 gate build order. Terran can be pretty all in but at least they seem to use a variety of builds and timing pushes on both 1 and 2 bases which is a little less boring. As for 6 pool ZvZ a 14 pool can hold it and those are relatively common. | ||
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Carson
Canada820 Posts
On April 12 2011 08:32 Sixes wrote: Well done, I actually mean it. It seems relatively obvious that it will fall apart at some point (as you discovered) but I am surprised it was so late. As for the BM, don't worry, I just got told zerg were "%$@#ing op" after I did a hatch first, defended a 4 gate then proceeded to outmacro him ... The sad truth is a lot of toss on ladder only know their 4 gate build order. Terran can be pretty all in but at least they seem to use a variety of builds and timing pushes on both 1 and 2 bases which is a little less boring. As for 6 pool ZvZ a 14 pool can hold it and those are relatively common. QFT, when I go against toss I barely even want to waste a probe scouting, I just get my 4gate defense ready, and prepare for a micro battle lol | ||
Drxz
Australia115 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:37 FeyFey wrote: Toss is just atm so focused on the late game, that they forget the early game ^^ and most zergs, allow them that they can do. And well terrans can't do anything early game x3. tech structure like toss, but only get half of an zealot out of it hehe. and getting an effectiv bunker up is a miracle, though the bunker makes the marines evil. But the depot really kills terran cheese ^^. (well or the early other races scout ^^; ) I do not know about your league/Server but at my league/server (Silver/Sea) Most protoss are just doing 4 gates, I play terran, so I can usually pretty safely just go 4 rax marauder for a free win against them. They do not often scout and if I see an observer in my base I just push out and usually take that free win. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On April 12 2011 08:48 Carson wrote: QFT, when I go against toss I barely even want to waste a probe scouting, I just get my 4gate defense ready, and prepare for a micro battle lol Going 4gate in PvP certainly doesn't mean you don't know other builds  Especially on Taldarim! | ||
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Cuh
United States403 Posts
Also.. Do you know which one you play KiWiKaKi in? | ||
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rottenpotato
Canada130 Posts
On April 12 2011 09:44 Cuh wrote: lol i started doing this today after work... already went from silver to plat!! Sorry world. | ||
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Phraxas
Australia7 Posts
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rottenpotato
Canada130 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/7_Pool_(vs._Zerg) I updated builds/put some notes on the wiki as well. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
 It just sounds like you are having so much fun! | ||
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darkevilxe
Canada346 Posts
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dmillz
Canada270 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:30 darkevilxe wrote: what i dont understand is why probes have 40 total hp while the other workers have 50 - this may be an explanation why it works v protoss more often? Because their shields regenerate. | ||
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Chinesewonder
Canada354 Posts
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Iblis
904 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:46 Chinesewonder wrote: I dont know why people QQ about the 6/7 pool when they 4 gate every game, or 2 rax every game. Cheese is a part of SC, you just have to learn to deal with it. If you get beaten by cheese, you got beat. The "rage against the cheese" syndrome is more due to loosing to something that seems to take less efforts to execute that it takes to be able to defend against it or even just not defendable in a current situation and if you somehow manage to take little to no damage you just won. example: 7pool Zvp on tal'darim it's not possible to block your ramp soon enough without using a pylon so you must choose to be either lings resistant or banelings resistants, if you gate later than 11 or 12 and not use your pylon in your wall you've lost. It's the same as being in a PvP without forge or robotics and having 2 dt in your main and 1in the army defense of the other P, you lost. It is clear that knowing that even if you make 0 mistake or if you manage your buildings/units to a 100% efficiency rate you have no chance to win and feeling powerless make someone irritable and it's normal. But I wouldn't call anytime you arrive at some point in a game where you can't respond to your ennemy units a cheese or if you got outmacroed after 15 minutes would be called a cheese too. the only think I can name as cheesy would be 6-7 pool, 2proxy gates, 1-2 proxy rax marine or marauder and early rax bunker rush, anything but that could be considered "normal play" even if those strategies/game plan include going "allin" to deal lots of damage or lose at some point in the game. | ||
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samuraibael
Australia294 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On April 12 2011 06:45 Cheerio wrote: And getting better at a video game gives you what? a nerd boner? Getting better and winning are the branches of the same tree, it's all vanity. No, maybe you don't know it because you actually never got that far, but at some point, RTS games becomes really interesting and fun to play. But to reach that point, you have to master the basics: micro/macro/good enough APM/mechanics/game knowledge. If you are good enough, you can play the game to its fullest, winning or loosing does not matter, but playing for a 20-30 min is wayyyyyyyyyyy different than winning with a cookie cutter strat that lead you into a 5min game. | ||
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YourMom
Romania565 Posts
On April 12 2011 09:44 Cuh wrote: lol i started doing this today after work... already went from silver to plat!! Also.. Do you know which one you play KiWiKaKi in? KiWiKaKi is Slag Pits (25). | ||
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Kira761
United States62 Posts
On April 12 2011 15:30 darkevilxe wrote: what i dont understand is why probes have 40 total hp while the other workers have 50 - this may be an explanation why it works v protoss more often? scvs have 45 hp and drones have 40 hp. | ||
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grandkai
Canada71 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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