• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:08
CEST 03:08
KST 10:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202519Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder2EWC 2025 - Replay Pack2Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced33BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Serral wins EWC 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Shield Battery Server New Patch [G] Progamer Settings StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 617 users

6-7 Pool to Top 400 NA - Your Thoughts? - Page 14

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 24 Next All
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 11 2011 12:11 GMT
#261
Don't try to 6pool on Taldarim though, it's the definition of fail. Atleast vs a protoss that knows how to send a probe to scout =P
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 12:21:14
April 11 2011 12:19 GMT
#262
It's sort of discouraging that you can get to 3800 just by 6 pooling, i couldnt even get there playing standard Makes me feel terrible that 6 pool (the easiest strat ever) can get that far : /

Nicely done though, i only thought six pool worked like 10% of the time Soooo, why arent zergs just doing this more? Especially vs protoss who they complain about so much.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
April 11 2011 12:23 GMT
#263
On April 11 2011 07:26 Whiplash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 07:21 rottenpotato wrote:
Protoss players got absolutely pissed(most), and I don't blame them.

That VTWhiplash guy's brain exploded.

The replay pack is more to see the BM that people portray or if people want to learn how to stop it. It includes all the games I lost as well.


Lol ya I tend to get pretty angry when I lose to cheese. I am much more experienced vs 6 pool now though, so I challenge you to a 6 pool rematch whenever! My rage is never a personal attack of hatred, just me venting my frustration.


(also blizz should make a spawning pool require 2 overlords, dustin browder's excuse for keeping 6 pool in the game is that they want the player to be on the edge of their seat from the start of the game which is some BS)

lets make warp gate require 2 cybers too
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
Veritassong
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada393 Posts
April 11 2011 12:28 GMT
#264
wow so this is the reason why every fucking pvz is 6-7 pool these days
人族英巴
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 11 2011 12:34 GMT
#265
On April 11 2011 21:28 Logican wrote:
wow so this is the reason why every fucking pvz is 6-7 pool these days


I think it's more because many zergs are having issues with handling late game protosses. Better to end it early on a coinflip, than to go to a lategame when you can't figure out how to beat them, right?
RandyPinkwood
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany92 Posts
April 11 2011 12:35 GMT
#266
If u would meet me on the ladder u would beat me on big maps since i play CC first alot.
But i was only 6pooled once or twice after advancing to masters league and that was on scrap ^^.

I think it works so well because the current metagame (atleast in masters) has 15 hatch in 90% of the games promoting CC and Nexus first builds.
WC3 nightelf , SC2 Terran <3 moving buildings
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
April 11 2011 12:38 GMT
#267
If zerg players can hold a 7 pool without a wall and an enemy spine crawler built directly inside their base, protoss players should be able too. Maybe you are not used to it and need more practice, or are going for a too greedy late gateway.
trNimitz
Profile Joined October 2010
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 12:40:11
April 11 2011 12:40 GMT
#268
On April 11 2011 21:38 NeonFox wrote:
If zerg players can hold a 7 pool without a wall and an enemy spine crawler built directly inside their base, protoss players should be able too. Maybe you are not used to it and need more practice, or are going for a too greedy late gateway.


nvm
SaLaYa
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States363 Posts
April 11 2011 12:41 GMT
#269
This is really hilarious, fun replay pack to watch actually.

A lot of WC3 players 4gate just out of habit, they want to micro, not macro. While cheesing everygame will fuck your over in a tourney, it's fine for ladder.
Cornell 2014 // eYe_am_SaSsY
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 11 2011 12:42 GMT
#270
On April 11 2011 21:23 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 07:26 Whiplash wrote:
On April 11 2011 07:21 rottenpotato wrote:
Protoss players got absolutely pissed(most), and I don't blame them.

That VTWhiplash guy's brain exploded.

The replay pack is more to see the BM that people portray or if people want to learn how to stop it. It includes all the games I lost as well.


Lol ya I tend to get pretty angry when I lose to cheese. I am much more experienced vs 6 pool now though, so I challenge you to a 6 pool rematch whenever! My rage is never a personal attack of hatred, just me venting my frustration.


(also blizz should make a spawning pool require 2 overlords, dustin browder's excuse for keeping 6 pool in the game is that they want the player to be on the edge of their seat from the start of the game which is some BS)

lets make warp gate require 2 cybers too


Hey, they made Barracks require supply depot, it could happen. My poor BBS strategy...Q.Q
danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
April 11 2011 12:42 GMT
#271
Cheese and onebasing gets you high on the ladder and wins games for you in tournaments, beating players you'd normally have no chance against.


Nothing new.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
April 11 2011 12:45 GMT
#272
How do you lose against a 6/7 pool. I can hold it with protoss and terran with ease :/
Mute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
April 11 2011 12:51 GMT
#273
I'm one of those master's league protoss players who loses every single time to the 6-pool...

If I scouted earlier I could hold it off.
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
April 11 2011 12:53 GMT
#274
On April 11 2011 07:27 Bonkarooni wrote:
Wait..you don't condone cheesing, yet you cheesed for like a week straight and ruined everyone elses ladder experience?

I dont care if you cheese or not, but dont start your post by saying "This is a bad thing to do, and even though I do it all the time it isn't really who I am". Actually, your actions DO make you who you are.



His point is that 6-Pool actually worked, and that he only did it because he didn't have enough time on his hands, so might as well do some probability testing. Aaaaaaand it turns out the NA ladder is apparently not 6-pool proof
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
April 11 2011 12:54 GMT
#275
FFE is autoloss against early pool unless it's on like Taldarim cross spots where you can get the cannon up. But unless you do 9scout, you will never see it in time.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
ProBaller
Profile Joined April 2011
United States33 Posts
April 11 2011 12:55 GMT
#276
Protoss rage due to six pool is exactly like zerg rage to cannon rush. I did watch the replay pack though, funny stuff. Especially the game against whiplash.
Bwwwaaaruuuughh-Day[9]. "Im not cooooooooooool. Im so hoooooooooooooooooot"-HongUnPrime.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 11 2011 13:10 GMT
#277
i only lose to a 7 pool on scrap (the larger ramps seems tempting for zergs) if i play normal ... but normally i do a cc first and lift of to the two islands if a zerg does this. Ahead in workers ahead in bases and flames or instant leave is common. It works since zergs never go for a 11 pool against a terran ^^.

But around my level on europe, tosses are normally pretty mannered and say glhf, but rage quiet fast about imba. Zergs are normally pretty bm if they lose their a click and terrans normally say nothing.

Micro is pretty uncommon in the ladder that makes cheese if you can micro so good. You start to encounter good Micro commonly at mid master, before everything is a click ^^.
TURKISHRAMBO
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada148 Posts
April 11 2011 13:19 GMT
#278
My standard is to forge first vs zerg now knowing about 50% of them 6 pool or roach all in.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 11 2011 13:26 GMT
#279
I've been doing CatZ' 7pool build vs. every protoss I meet on a 4 player map. If they don't scout me first, or try a forge FE, it's auto-win.

I'm only doing this cause I can't seem to beat a toss these days. But works for me for now.

Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 11 2011 13:56 GMT
#280
Wow interesting facts, I never knew that 6/7 pools have such high percentages at high level, I guess I will try to incorporate it in my play for tournaments. I will have to train it tho, never done it.
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Monday
00:00
#42
CranKy Ducklings137
davetesta72
EnkiAlexander 33
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 236
CosmosSc2 58
Ketroc 44
Vindicta 27
Livibee 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1849
Artosis 632
NaDa 74
Aegong 19
Sexy 11
Icarus 4
Dota 2
capcasts558
NeuroSwarm100
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Fnx 2148
Stewie2K1098
flusha558
taco 240
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox616
AZ_Axe98
Other Games
summit1g14226
Day[9].tv1005
shahzam975
ViBE245
Maynarde245
C9.Mang0239
Trikslyr52
trigger3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1971
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH311
• Hupsaiya 63
• RyuSc2 32
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift6861
Other Games
• Day9tv1005
• Scarra843
Upcoming Events
OSC
11h 22m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14h 52m
The PondCast
1d 8h
Online Event
1d 14h
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
Online Event
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.