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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 11 2011 12:11 GMT
#261
Don't try to 6pool on Taldarim though, it's the definition of fail. Atleast vs a protoss that knows how to send a probe to scout =P
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 12:21:14
April 11 2011 12:19 GMT
#262
It's sort of discouraging that you can get to 3800 just by 6 pooling, i couldnt even get there playing standard Makes me feel terrible that 6 pool (the easiest strat ever) can get that far : /

Nicely done though, i only thought six pool worked like 10% of the time Soooo, why arent zergs just doing this more? Especially vs protoss who they complain about so much.
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
April 11 2011 12:23 GMT
#263
On April 11 2011 07:26 Whiplash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 07:21 rottenpotato wrote:
Protoss players got absolutely pissed(most), and I don't blame them.

That VTWhiplash guy's brain exploded.

The replay pack is more to see the BM that people portray or if people want to learn how to stop it. It includes all the games I lost as well.


Lol ya I tend to get pretty angry when I lose to cheese. I am much more experienced vs 6 pool now though, so I challenge you to a 6 pool rematch whenever! My rage is never a personal attack of hatred, just me venting my frustration.


(also blizz should make a spawning pool require 2 overlords, dustin browder's excuse for keeping 6 pool in the game is that they want the player to be on the edge of their seat from the start of the game which is some BS)

lets make warp gate require 2 cybers too
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Veritassong
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada393 Posts
April 11 2011 12:28 GMT
#264
wow so this is the reason why every fucking pvz is 6-7 pool these days
人族英巴
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 11 2011 12:34 GMT
#265
On April 11 2011 21:28 Logican wrote:
wow so this is the reason why every fucking pvz is 6-7 pool these days


I think it's more because many zergs are having issues with handling late game protosses. Better to end it early on a coinflip, than to go to a lategame when you can't figure out how to beat them, right?
RandyPinkwood
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany92 Posts
April 11 2011 12:35 GMT
#266
If u would meet me on the ladder u would beat me on big maps since i play CC first alot.
But i was only 6pooled once or twice after advancing to masters league and that was on scrap ^^.

I think it works so well because the current metagame (atleast in masters) has 15 hatch in 90% of the games promoting CC and Nexus first builds.
WC3 nightelf , SC2 Terran <3 moving buildings
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
April 11 2011 12:38 GMT
#267
If zerg players can hold a 7 pool without a wall and an enemy spine crawler built directly inside their base, protoss players should be able too. Maybe you are not used to it and need more practice, or are going for a too greedy late gateway.
trNimitz
Profile Joined October 2010
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-11 12:40:11
April 11 2011 12:40 GMT
#268
On April 11 2011 21:38 NeonFox wrote:
If zerg players can hold a 7 pool without a wall and an enemy spine crawler built directly inside their base, protoss players should be able too. Maybe you are not used to it and need more practice, or are going for a too greedy late gateway.


nvm
SaLaYa
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States363 Posts
April 11 2011 12:41 GMT
#269
This is really hilarious, fun replay pack to watch actually.

A lot of WC3 players 4gate just out of habit, they want to micro, not macro. While cheesing everygame will fuck your over in a tourney, it's fine for ladder.
Cornell 2014 // eYe_am_SaSsY
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 11 2011 12:42 GMT
#270
On April 11 2011 21:23 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2011 07:26 Whiplash wrote:
On April 11 2011 07:21 rottenpotato wrote:
Protoss players got absolutely pissed(most), and I don't blame them.

That VTWhiplash guy's brain exploded.

The replay pack is more to see the BM that people portray or if people want to learn how to stop it. It includes all the games I lost as well.


Lol ya I tend to get pretty angry when I lose to cheese. I am much more experienced vs 6 pool now though, so I challenge you to a 6 pool rematch whenever! My rage is never a personal attack of hatred, just me venting my frustration.


(also blizz should make a spawning pool require 2 overlords, dustin browder's excuse for keeping 6 pool in the game is that they want the player to be on the edge of their seat from the start of the game which is some BS)

lets make warp gate require 2 cybers too


Hey, they made Barracks require supply depot, it could happen. My poor BBS strategy...Q.Q
danielsan
Profile Joined December 2010
Romania399 Posts
April 11 2011 12:42 GMT
#271
Cheese and onebasing gets you high on the ladder and wins games for you in tournaments, beating players you'd normally have no chance against.


Nothing new.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
April 11 2011 12:45 GMT
#272
How do you lose against a 6/7 pool. I can hold it with protoss and terran with ease :/
Mute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
April 11 2011 12:51 GMT
#273
I'm one of those master's league protoss players who loses every single time to the 6-pool...

If I scouted earlier I could hold it off.
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
April 11 2011 12:53 GMT
#274
On April 11 2011 07:27 Bonkarooni wrote:
Wait..you don't condone cheesing, yet you cheesed for like a week straight and ruined everyone elses ladder experience?

I dont care if you cheese or not, but dont start your post by saying "This is a bad thing to do, and even though I do it all the time it isn't really who I am". Actually, your actions DO make you who you are.



His point is that 6-Pool actually worked, and that he only did it because he didn't have enough time on his hands, so might as well do some probability testing. Aaaaaaand it turns out the NA ladder is apparently not 6-pool proof
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
April 11 2011 12:54 GMT
#275
FFE is autoloss against early pool unless it's on like Taldarim cross spots where you can get the cannon up. But unless you do 9scout, you will never see it in time.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
ProBaller
Profile Joined April 2011
United States33 Posts
April 11 2011 12:55 GMT
#276
Protoss rage due to six pool is exactly like zerg rage to cannon rush. I did watch the replay pack though, funny stuff. Especially the game against whiplash.
Bwwwaaaruuuughh-Day[9]. "Im not cooooooooooool. Im so hoooooooooooooooooot"-HongUnPrime.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 11 2011 13:10 GMT
#277
i only lose to a 7 pool on scrap (the larger ramps seems tempting for zergs) if i play normal ... but normally i do a cc first and lift of to the two islands if a zerg does this. Ahead in workers ahead in bases and flames or instant leave is common. It works since zergs never go for a 11 pool against a terran ^^.

But around my level on europe, tosses are normally pretty mannered and say glhf, but rage quiet fast about imba. Zergs are normally pretty bm if they lose their a click and terrans normally say nothing.

Micro is pretty uncommon in the ladder that makes cheese if you can micro so good. You start to encounter good Micro commonly at mid master, before everything is a click ^^.
TURKISHRAMBO
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada148 Posts
April 11 2011 13:19 GMT
#278
My standard is to forge first vs zerg now knowing about 50% of them 6 pool or roach all in.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
April 11 2011 13:26 GMT
#279
I've been doing CatZ' 7pool build vs. every protoss I meet on a 4 player map. If they don't scout me first, or try a forge FE, it's auto-win.

I'm only doing this cause I can't seem to beat a toss these days. But works for me for now.

Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 11 2011 13:56 GMT
#280
Wow interesting facts, I never knew that 6/7 pools have such high percentages at high level, I guess I will try to incorporate it in my play for tournaments. I will have to train it tho, never done it.
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