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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
April 06 2011 14:55 GMT
#21
On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are),


Banshee is coming from Irish mythology. bean sídhe. It's a "death" spirit (similiar to it's meaning in a shitton of fantasy RPGs / Tabletops (D&D, Warhammer).
The sidhe are basically all spirits (see more: wiki)

Playing King Arthus (the roleplaying wargame) payed off
jcr2001
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Singapore53 Posts
April 06 2011 14:55 GMT
#22
Let's not forget Antioch also. A lot of Protoss stuff have been derived from Greek influences too. Just can't think of some at the moment.

I think Roman too.
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
April 06 2011 14:57 GMT
#23
Starcraft1 probes would say "chuumon?"

Japanese for "orders?"
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
April 06 2011 14:59 GMT
#24
On April 06 2011 23:55 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are),


Banshee is coming from Irish mythology. bean sídhe. It's a "death" spirit (similiar to it's meaning in a shitton of fantasy RPGs / Tabletops (D&D, Warhammer).
The sidhe are basically all spirits (see more: wiki)

Playing King Arthus (the roleplaying wargame) payed off

Could've been slightly based on WoW banshees as well, considering who made the game. In WoW they were female ghosts (as in spirits of dead people, not guys with nukes), essentially.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
April 06 2011 15:00 GMT
#25
On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.

Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken


You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?

No. The Kraken is Greek.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
April 06 2011 15:00 GMT
#26
Terran! http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terran

Terran
"of or pertaining to the planet Earth,"
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
April 06 2011 15:02 GMT
#27
On April 06 2011 23:45 Jombozeus wrote:
Unfortunately for you:
1. Chrono- is a prefix to many words involving time, such as chronology
2. Pylon is an english word meaning the exact same thing
3. Archon is an english word
4. Proto- is a prefix for many english words involving firsts, such as prototype
5. Agriculture

As already mentioned, you will find links like this in ANY random essay or even scientific paper because english has inherited a lot from greek anyways.


He's right. This is the root of most of it. English is heavily inundated with Greek works, so it's no surprise that it shows up here as well. If you study Ancient Greek (which I have), it's pretty astounding how much of the vocabulary is familiar if know English.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 06 2011 15:03 GMT
#28
I've always thought that the Protoss was based on ancient Rome.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
April 06 2011 15:04 GMT
#29
On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.

Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken


You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?

No. The Kraken is Greek.


Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.
legatus legionis
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands559 Posts
April 06 2011 15:06 GMT
#30
I just looked it up because I couldn't remember and English is not my native. But I wanted to agree with searcher and Jombozeus.

Both the Greek and Roman civilizations have contributed a lot to many things in our modern society. Law, Politics, Warfare, Literature, Chemistry, Infrastructure, Language and the list goes on. In language, 3/5ths of the English Vocabulary is from Greek/Latin. Grammar and ~the alphabet are derived from greece. Plurals and singulars from latin maybe? I don't know.
With the plural this is a fun example. Singular: agendum, plural: agenda. But overtime we butchered it and now we use agenda as the singular and agendas as the plural. Or datum, data. Into data for both nowadays.

It's too much and too detailed, never ending stream of influence but just look it up. It's very interesting.

So for the final point. They are not references to ancient society, they are traces of the influence of ancient society on our language.

Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 15:08:41
April 06 2011 15:07 GMT
#31
On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.

Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken


You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?

No. The Kraken is Greek.


Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.
We call them salmon. j/k

They are indeed from Norse mythology and live in the oceans outside Iceland and Norway.
I found it funny when I learned Corsair = pirate, and Arbiter = judge. I guess thats what you get for having English as a second language though.
really?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
April 06 2011 15:11 GMT
#32
On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.

Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken


You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?

No. The Kraken is Greek.


Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.

Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
April 06 2011 15:13 GMT
#33
On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:
On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.

Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken


You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?

No. The Kraken is Greek.


Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.

Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.


And they definitely couldn't have borrowed that work from Greek right?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
April 06 2011 15:13 GMT
#34
lol i thought this was really obvious and everyone already knew this ^_^ nothing to "find" but obviously i was wrong so... doesn't hurt to point it out.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
April 06 2011 15:15 GMT
#35
On April 07 2011 00:13 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:
On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:
On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.

Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken


You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?

No. The Kraken is Greek.


Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.

Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.


And they definitely couldn't have borrowed that work from Greek right?

The Norse? I very highly doubt it.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
XavierGr
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece15 Posts
April 06 2011 15:20 GMT
#36
On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:
Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.


Citation needed, I am Greek and I've never heard that word before.
I agree with the others, the Kraken is Norse mythology.
Centorian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 15:24:34
April 06 2011 15:22 GMT
#37
While its not used in the common vernacular, nexus is an English word that means connection.

example: My smart-phone serves as nexus between home and work.

The Nexus serves as a connection between Aiur (or Shakurus) and the Protoss base.

Edit: it comes from the latin word for bind... you can actually see the root of Nexus in the word conection
Insert witty statement here.
Bigboss_26
Profile Joined August 2010
United States49 Posts
April 06 2011 15:24 GMT
#38
On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?


My Big Fat Greek Wedding

Why I know this....... blame my fiance.

(( "Just spray some windex on it, it'll be fine." ))
Mulletarian
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway101 Posts
April 06 2011 15:25 GMT
#39
well we certainly don't have a lot of squid around here, but vikings went to greece and may have picked it up there.. makes sense to me. Giant squids aren't particulary unique in cultural lore though.
Coeus1
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland160 Posts
April 06 2011 15:26 GMT
#40
COEUS (Koios) The Titan god of the intellect as his name would suggest. He was also known as Polus (the pole) and probably presided over the axis of heaven in the north around which the constellations revolve.


And I play protoss. Happy to know my nick was well picked. -)
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