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Hi there TL,
I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style.
I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few.
- πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Guys... What the heck.
I just participated in Ancient Greek classes and was amazed on how many parallels you can see to SC names and Greek vocabulary, and I just wanted to share this because it made me giggle and I hoped it would make you too. THOUGH it's clear that the prefix "chrono" is obvious, and the most terms are common in English, my surprise was how Greek words are exactly identical to SC proper nouns.
So please forgive my attempt, I'm just a bit shocked on how much hate is in this thread.
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Nice picking up on this, Chrono boost is the best one here in my opinion.
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Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him.
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Isn't also the word "Thanatos" (Θάνατος, personification of death) used by the Dark templar?
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Khrónos was the only one i've figured out
nice finds  keep them comming
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whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?
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What you have actually discovered is that many English words have Greek origins. All the examples you brought up are common English words or prefixes.
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On April 06 2011 23:27 naamis wrote:
Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him.
Hellion is actually an upstart or rebellious person
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Goliath is obviously from the Bible. I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are), but obviously Thor, Odin, Loki come from Norse Mythology (along with Viking).
I dunno, it's pretty common for videogames to use things like that. Gotta make things sound cool, latin, greek, and mythologies are good for that sort of thing.
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Raynor's BC is called the Hyperion . . . that counts right?
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Thor's
Nvm Norse god I think lol.
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Even "Sons of Korhal" in Broodwar is from the Bible, the "Sons of Korah" wrote a few of the psalms.
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Colossus is also from ancient Greek mythology.
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I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken
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Or y'know Colossus could be from that giant frickin' statute that they built over Rhodes.  I don't think that it was actually part of any ancient Greek myth.
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Archons were some sort of minister in Ancien Greece.
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Unfortunately for you:
1. Chrono- is a prefix to many words involving time, such as chronology
2. Pylon is an english word meaning the exact same thing
3. Archon is an english word
4. Proto- is a prefix for many english words involving firsts, such as prototype
5. Agriculture
As already mentioned, you will find links like this in ANY random essay or even scientific paper because english has inherited a lot from greek anyways.
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Writers tend to embellish or borrow from ancient civilizations all the time. The is especially apparent in fantasy games and RPGs. I used all sorts of mythology and language mishmashes when I translated video games for a living.
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On April 06 2011 23:42 kawaiiryuko wrote:Or y'know Colossus could be from that giant frickin' statute that they built over Rhodes. I don't think that it was actually part of any ancient Greek myth.
The word is of Greek origin and, yes, is not mythological in nature. But the Colossus of Rhodes isn't nearly the prime example. I believe the Colossi of Memnon (Egyptian) were around on the order of 1000 years prior to the one at Rhodes. I'm sure there are examples from times earlier than that, as well.
Anyways, we all know the real origin:
+ Show Spoiler +
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On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken
You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?
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On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are),
Banshee is coming from Irish mythology. bean sídhe. It's a "death" spirit (similiar to it's meaning in a shitton of fantasy RPGs / Tabletops (D&D, Warhammer).
The sidhe are basically all spirits (see more: wiki)
Playing King Arthus (the roleplaying wargame) payed off
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Let's not forget Antioch also. A lot of Protoss stuff have been derived from Greek influences too. Just can't think of some at the moment.
I think Roman too.
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Starcraft1 probes would say "chuumon?"
Japanese for "orders?"
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On April 06 2011 23:55 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are), Banshee is coming from Irish mythology. bean sídhe. It's a "death" spirit (similiar to it's meaning in a shitton of fantasy RPGs / Tabletops (D&D, Warhammer). The sidhe are basically all spirits (see more: wiki) Playing King Arthus (the roleplaying wargame) payed off
Could've been slightly based on WoW banshees as well, considering who made the game. In WoW they were female ghosts (as in spirits of dead people, not guys with nukes), essentially.
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On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?
No. The Kraken is Greek.
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On April 06 2011 23:45 Jombozeus wrote:
Unfortunately for you:
1. Chrono- is a prefix to many words involving time, such as chronology
2. Pylon is an english word meaning the exact same thing
3. Archon is an english word
4. Proto- is a prefix for many english words involving firsts, such as prototype
5. Agriculture
As already mentioned, you will find links like this in ANY random essay or even scientific paper because english has inherited a lot from greek anyways.
He's right. This is the root of most of it. English is heavily inundated with Greek works, so it's no surprise that it shows up here as well. If you study Ancient Greek (which I have), it's pretty astounding how much of the vocabulary is familiar if know English.
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I've always thought that the Protoss was based on ancient Rome.
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On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek.
Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.
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I just looked it up because I couldn't remember and English is not my native. But I wanted to agree with searcher and Jombozeus.
Both the Greek and Roman civilizations have contributed a lot to many things in our modern society. Law, Politics, Warfare, Literature, Chemistry, Infrastructure, Language and the list goes on. In language, 3/5ths of the English Vocabulary is from Greek/Latin. Grammar and ~the alphabet are derived from greece. Plurals and singulars from latin maybe? I don't know.
With the plural this is a fun example. Singular: agendum, plural: agenda. But overtime we butchered it and now we use agenda as the singular and agendas as the plural. Or datum, data. Into data for both nowadays.
It's too much and too detailed, never ending stream of influence but just look it up. It's very interesting.
So for the final point. They are not references to ancient society, they are traces of the influence of ancient society on our language.
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On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek. Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time. We call them salmon. j/k
They are indeed from Norse mythology and live in the oceans outside Iceland and Norway.
I found it funny when I learned Corsair = pirate, and Arbiter = judge. I guess thats what you get for having English as a second language though.
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Hyrule19010 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek. Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.
Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.
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On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek. Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time. Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.
And they definitely couldn't have borrowed that work from Greek right?
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lol i thought this was really obvious and everyone already knew this ^_^ nothing to "find" but obviously i was wrong so... doesn't hurt to point it out.
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Hyrule19010 Posts
On April 07 2011 00:13 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek. Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time. Kraken is a Greek word which means squid. And they definitely couldn't have borrowed that work from Greek right?
The Norse? I very highly doubt it.
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On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:
Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.
Citation needed, I am Greek and I've never heard that word before.
I agree with the others, the Kraken is Norse mythology.
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While its not used in the common vernacular, nexus is an English word that means connection.
example: My smart-phone serves as nexus between home and work.
The Nexus serves as a connection between Aiur (or Shakurus) and the Protoss base.
Edit: it comes from the latin word for bind... you can actually see the root of Nexus in the word conection
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On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?
My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Why I know this....... blame my fiance.
(( "Just spray some windex on it, it'll be fine." ))
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well we certainly don't have a lot of squid around here, but vikings went to greece and may have picked it up there.. makes sense to me. Giant squids aren't particulary unique in cultural lore though.
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COEUS (Koios) The Titan god of the intellect as his name would suggest. He was also known as Polus (the pole) and probably presided over the axis of heaven in the north around which the constellations revolve.
And I play protoss. Happy to know my nick was well picked. -)
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Terran = latin language = Terra = Earth 
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I think it's more that a lot of English words that Protoss units / abilities are based off of happen to have Greek roots rather than the units / abilities being directly based off of Ancient Greek culture.
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On April 07 2011 00:15 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:13 SolHeiM wrote:On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek. Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time. Kraken is a Greek word which means squid. And they definitely couldn't have borrowed that work from Greek right? The Norse? I very highly doubt it.
Despite the best efforts of the movie Clash of the Titans to insist otherwise, Kraken is a word of Norwegian origins. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/kraken
The monster Perseus defeats is most commonly described in the myths as a "sea monster", not specifically any individual sea monster ("Kraken" just sounds better than "the sea monster" in Hollywood terms). Also, in Age of Mythology, the Kraken is a Norse unit. Microsoft knows what it's talking about!
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On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek. Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.
You're both wrong the Gracken is Zerg and he grew up in Kalamazoo michigan.
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95% of any terminology originates in latin/greek, so I have no idea how it surprises anyone.
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On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?
My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
The dad character also loved windex.
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The reason for all of this is probably because English is so influenced by ancient Greek and Latin. Its pretty common to notice a lot of stuff like this if you study English and Latin. Good job finding the actual Greek roots words. I didn't know about the Pylon one.
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On April 06 2011 23:55 Zocat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are), Banshee is coming from Irish mythology. bean sídhe. It's a "death" spirit (similiar to it's meaning in a shitton of fantasy RPGs / Tabletops (D&D, Warhammer). The sidhe are basically all spirits (see more: wiki) Playing King Arthus (the roleplaying wargame) payed off
Banshee's were always women too , just like the Banshee picture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee
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Anyone notice the Latin reference in the name of this website, TeamLiquid? Liquidus is the Latin word for "flowing".
On April 06 2011 23:45 Jombozeus wrote:
Unfortunately for you:
1. Chrono- is a prefix to many words involving time, such as chronology
2. Pylon is an english word meaning the exact same thing
3. Archon is an english word
4. Proto- is a prefix for many english words involving firsts, such as prototype
5. Agriculture
As already mentioned, you will find links like this in ANY random essay or even scientific paper because english has inherited a lot from greek anyways.
Oh, right. In the words of BIC, get real.
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On April 07 2011 00:32 Zaphid wrote:
95% of any terminology originates in latin/greek, so I have no idea how it surprises anyone.
Even in Indo-European languages this isn't really true. Germanic languages (probably the large portion of English) have their own root words.
Cow certainly doesn't come from latin or greek.
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On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Adun toridas is correct.
But the word pylon is more likely from η πύλη, gate in english and since there is already Gateway this would be something between pole as in shape and gate for gating units.
Generally, games like to add stuff from mythology and ancient civilizations to many things more interesting.
I played Dark Age of Camelot (Albion-british / Midgard-skandinavian / Hibernia-Irish) and its expansion, Trials of Atlantis was full of greek and egyptian references.
Also most sciences have loads of greek words since their birth and development was placed in Greece. You can see the computer science being in english since the mayor companies are placed in the USA.
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Indeed the Kraken is from Norse mythology, although it was never actually called by that name. Kraken seems to come from the german krake, which means octopus.
The leviathan from the campaign is apparently one of the seven princes of Hell.
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On April 06 2011 23:34 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
Thor's
Nvm Norse god I think lol.
Yep Thor is a Norse god ^^
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When you first encounter collossi in the prophecy missions, they arise from the ocean and Zeratul says something along the lines of ancient technology which was long forgotten. That part struck me as a pretty clear reference to Atlantis.
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On April 06 2011 23:33 Eishi_Ki wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:27 naamis wrote:
Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him. Hellion is actually an upstart or rebellious person
It most likely just comes from hell, they are armed with an infernal flamethrower and inferno means hell/large fire, which fits both the name of the hellion and it's purpose.
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Wow, the "chrono boost" discovery amazed me. I always believed the meaning simply was pretty clear, and wouldn't need to be called an "Ancient Greek reference". I mean, all of you heard of "chronometers" right ?
(Not-so) of topic, thanks for the Greek movie and the quote "just spray some windex of it, it'll be fine", I never heard of it but now I understand the reference that Date Movie makes ("just spray some hummus (...)" ), that was on my brain since years.
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I thought everyone knew that the protoss were based on egyptian?
![[image loading]](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/3260126777_5da2fa24a7.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.math.carleton.ca/~rhfischl/great_pyramid/pyramid.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://tcpm.mrlazyinc.com/files/images/games/starcraft2/protoss_high_templar_portrait.jpg)
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On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken
The mothership had "planet cracker" thats close enough right?
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On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Pylon is the english word for the towers used to hold up power lines... that seems pretty obvious that the towers that emit protoss power are called pylons:
![[image loading]](http://terenceblacker.com/comment/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/pink-pylon.jpg)
And it's pretty obvious that Protoss culture is derived from various historical civilizations.
Zealot: militant jewish sect that revolted against the Romans
Dragoon: generic term for mounted infantry/light cavalry/armored recon (more modern use)
Templar: Christian military order from Middle Ages
Archon: Greek magistrate
Praetor: Roman magistrate/commander
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On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?
We all know the Gracken is a Zerg unit >.<
Ok I'll go back to my hidey hole now
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i got this from latin
NEXUS (participe form of nectareus) - to sling, to attach, to bind
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On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
Goliath is obviously from the Bible. I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are), but obviously Thor, Odin, Loki come from Norse Mythology (along with Viking).
Valkyrie is another one from Norse mythology.
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chrono boost and protoss are the best ones, good job and well done for speaking latin O.o
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Considering about eighty percent of English words come from Latin or Greek, I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is.
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On April 06 2011 23:27 naamis wrote:
Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him.
So there is gas in them, WHY DON'T THEY COST GAS? lol.
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OP just found that there is a lot of Greek in Latin, and a lot of Latin in everything. I was expecting something more along the lines of why some race has characteristics of Greeks or some other such thing.
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Only American name in this game is Stalker
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On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?
My Big Fat Greek Wedding
And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words.
Dumb thread imo.
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Thor, Odin, Loki come from Norse Mythology (along with Viking).
I always liked how Valkyrie was the AtA unit for T in SC1 and Viking is the AtA unit for T in SC2. (Male / Female Norse warriors in mythology)
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This is better than the time that I found out the spells in Harry Potter are Latin.
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This thread is funny.
I guess I took for granted that many of the word origins were from various civilizations.
The best use of what were at the time obscure words are old Edgar Rice Burroughs novels about the center of the earth, and Mars. He uses "helium" as the name of an exotic Martian city! Lol 1900 audiences weren't aware of the periodic table, just like starcraft players apparently aren't aware of english word origins
I like the research in here!
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Hyperion: an ancient Titan diety from Greek mythology
Caduceus: Hermes' staff, now used as the symbol of all things medical (if you don't remember, the Caduceus Reactor is the tech that lets Medivacs start with increased energy)
Nexus: one of the Latin forms for the verb "to bind" or "to bring together"
Templar: comes from the same word as "temple", it just references their holy order
Vespene: As far as I can tell, it refers to the Latin word for evening. Take that as you will
And, for reference, roughly 2/3 of the English language is based in Latin, the other 1/3 is Germanic. It's kinda the bastard child of the two languages (due to William the Conqueror).
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On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit? No. The Kraken is Greek. Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time. Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.
Oh my, this is making me so sad. People believing that a giant squid is part of greek mythology after watching 'Clash of the Titans' is sad enough, but going ahead and throw out half-knowledge (which isn't even true) one has obtained in a movie is even worse. As someone earlier said, kraken is the german word for squid.
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On April 07 2011 02:29 Typhon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Pylon is the english word for the towers used to hold up power lines... that seems pretty obvious that the towers that emit protoss power are called pylons: + Show Spoiler +And it's pretty obvious that Protoss culture is derived from various historical civilizations. Zealot: militant jewish sect that revolted against the Romans Dragoon: generic term for mounted infantry/light cavalry/armored recon (more modern use) Templar: Christian military order from Middle Ages Archon: Greek magistrate Praetor: Roman magistrate/commander
You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious.
Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements.
Banshee
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/0m93B.jpg)
LEFT: The Orca from the Command & Conquer series.
RIGHT: Banshee (SC2)
Stargate
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/jYjyZ.jpg)
LEFT: The infamous Stargate from the aptly titled Stargate series
RIGHT: Stargate (SC2)
Colossus
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/fnOci.jpg)
LEFT: The "Tri-Pod" from War of the Worlds
RIGHT: Colossus (SC2)
Goliath
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/o1IQy.jpg)
LEFT: AT-ST Walker from Star Wars
RIGHT: Goliath (SC2)
Hellion
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/O31iv.jpg)
LEFT: Flame Tanks from Command & Conquer
RIGHT: Hellion
Nexus
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/lOcXS.jpg)
LEFT: A Goa'Uld Ha'Tak from, yet again, the Stargate franchise
RIGHT: Nexus (SC2)
NOTE: An alien race of ancients known as the Asgard also had a ship specifically called the Science Vessel.
The C&C throwbacks are pretty obvious as some of the development team came from C&C but it is clearly obvious that our beloved SC2 was heavily influenced by the greats like Star Wars and Stargate!
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Interesting post, but I think you're mistaken. It's clearly stracraft references in the ancient greek language.
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On April 07 2011 03:02 FreezerJumps wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece? My Big Fat Greek Wedding And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words. Dumb thread imo.
English is a Germanic language. Vocabulary borrowed from Greek and Latin is actually rather rare.
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On April 07 2011 00:57 lololol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:33 Eishi_Ki wrote:On April 06 2011 23:27 naamis wrote:
Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him. Hellion is actually an upstart or rebellious person It most likely just comes from hell, they are armed with an infernal flamethrower and inferno means hell/large fire, which fits both the name of the hellion and it's purpose.
Helios = sun?
And right, Vespene might come from the latin's term for evening (vesper).
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On April 07 2011 03:46 chenchen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 03:02 FreezerJumps wrote:On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece? My Big Fat Greek Wedding And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words. Dumb thread imo. English is a Germanic language. Vocabulary borrowed from Greek and Latin is actually rather rare.
Actually, while the origins of English are Germanic (the Anglo-Saxon roots of old english), it's heavily influenced by Latin and Greek via the church, and by French after William of Normandy invaded and conquered England in the 11th century (Battle of Hastings in 1066). From that point forward, modern English blends Germanic and Romance together.
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I didn't realize the Greek roots of Protoss. Very cool, since they were the first race the Xel'Naga created.
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On April 07 2011 03:46 chenchen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 03:02 FreezerJumps wrote:On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece? My Big Fat Greek Wedding And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words. Dumb thread imo. English is a Germanic language. Vocabulary borrowed from Greek and Latin is actually rather rare.
The words: 'language', 'Vocabulary', 'actually' and 'rare' all derive from Latin. Rare indeed...
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Did anyone catch the reference to Alexander the Great? Valerian Mengsk's ship is called the Bucephalus, the same as Alexander's war horse. I thought that was kinda cool.
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On April 06 2011 23:45 Jombozeus wrote:
Unfortunately for you:
1. Chrono- is a prefix to many words involving time, such as chronology
2. Pylon is an english word meaning the exact same thing
3. Archon is an english word
4. Proto- is a prefix for many english words involving firsts, such as prototype
5. Agriculture
As already mentioned, you will find links like this in ANY random essay or even scientific paper because english has inherited a lot from greek anyways.
my thoughts exactly ~.~
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In singleplay, theres this roboter named A.R.E.S. i think Ares is some god of destruction.
Not 100% sure though
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On April 07 2011 03:42 TimeSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 02:29 Typhon wrote:On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Pylon is the english word for the towers used to hold up power lines... that seems pretty obvious that the towers that emit protoss power are called pylons: + Show Spoiler +And it's pretty obvious that Protoss culture is derived from various historical civilizations. Zealot: militant jewish sect that revolted against the Romans Dragoon: generic term for mounted infantry/light cavalry/armored recon (more modern use) Templar: Christian military order from Middle Ages Archon: Greek magistrate Praetor: Roman magistrate/commander You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious. Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements.
BansheeLEFT: The Orca from the Command & Conquer series. RIGHT: Banshee (SC2)
StargateLEFT: The infamous Stargate from the aptly titled Stargate series RIGHT: Stargate (SC2)
ColossusLEFT: The "Tri-Pod" from War of the Worlds RIGHT: Colossus (SC2)
GoliathLEFT: AT-ST Walker from Star Wars RIGHT: Goliath (SC2)
HellionLEFT: Flame Tanks from Command & Conquer RIGHT: Hellion
NexusLEFT: A Goa'Uld Ha'Tak from, yet again, the Stargate franchise RIGHT: Nexus (SC2) NOTE: An alien race of ancients known as the Asgard also had a ship specifically called the Science Vessel.
The C&C throwbacks are pretty obvious as some of the development team came from C&C but it is clearly obvious that our beloved SC2 was heavily influenced by the greats like Star Wars and Stargate!
No comments? I thought this was relevant AND interesting :p
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There are vikings and thors!! Norse mythology? :O
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how about zealot (if it hasn't been mentioned). a religious warrior full of zeal.
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lol it is already known by any/all blizzard fans that Blizzard is not known for having the most original ideas. 90%of their content is based off of other creative works...
Basically everything I wrote was already previously stated. so i took it out.
lol this thread is full of laughs... kinda disturbing what somepeople have pointed out... "ARES" i THINK was a greek god of war.... how is this not common knowledge who Ares is... im officially abandoning this thread
lol at post above me, did you seriously just recognize that zealot is a word be4 it was a SC2 unit. (spoiler- so is Dragoon, probe, corsair, scout, carrier, and pretty much EVERY UNIT IN SCBW AND SC2... people are giving them way too much credit with their naming.)
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Yeah Chrono probably the most obvious one,
didn't know about Protoss and Archon, but they sound epic now xD
Lol Pylon
"We must construct additonal Places [Pylons]"
You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious.
Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements.
Some of them might be directly inspired, but pop culture always copies each other if you look at it like that. To me though it's not close enough to say, for example, two bipedal robots with 2 guns on the side are directly copied (AT-T thing and Goliath). Most of them are generic and pretty basic ideas. But then again, you can say they are generic because they copy each other.
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Not entirely sure why this thread exists. As had been said before language is derivative. There are no"finds" here... only statements of the obvious. Forgive me if I sound annoyed, but the meaning of the prefix chrono should be common knowledge.....
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On April 07 2011 05:10 Duoma wrote:
Not entirely sure why this thread exists. As had been said before language is derivative. There are no"finds" here... only statements of the obvious. Forgive me if I sound annoyed, but the meaning of the prefix chrono should be common knowledge.....
completely100% agreement... only wrote first post because I was disgusted at the lack of... knowledge in this thread but then realized there were people already trying to help these poor lost people...
kind of embarrassing to read what some people have pointed out lol.
Command Center = term be4 SC?!?!?! NO WAI
User was temp banned for this post.
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On April 07 2011 05:09 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Yeah Chrono probably the most obvious one, didn't know about Protoss and Archon, but they sound epic now xD Lol Pylon "We must construct additonal Places [Pylons]" Show nested quote +You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious.
Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements. Some of them might be directly inspired, but pop culture always copies each other if you look at it like that. To me though it's not close enough to say, for example, two bipedal robots with 2 guns on the side are directly copied (AT-T thing and Goliath). Most of them are generic and pretty basic ideas. But then again, you can say they are generic because they copy each other.
I wasn't implying that it is a bad thing, lol.
But the Goliath and the AT-ST Walker are certainly related ideas!
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On April 07 2011 04:22 dapanman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 03:46 chenchen wrote:On April 07 2011 03:02 FreezerJumps wrote:On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece? My Big Fat Greek Wedding And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words. Dumb thread imo. English is a Germanic language. Vocabulary borrowed from Greek and Latin is actually rather rare. The words: 'language', 'Vocabulary', 'actually' and 'rare' all derive from Latin. Rare indeed...
And everything else comes from Old German? I don't get your point. Greek vocabulary in everyday English is minimal and Latin only influenced about 15% of commonly used English words.
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No one Figured out the Phoenix?? pretty obvious
But in that other Post where someone compared SC Units with other Games and Movies.
Their is the obvious one with the Terrans and Warhammer 40k.
But one question isnt the Starcraft franchies older then Stargate??
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On April 07 2011 05:23 m!DniGhT wrote:No one Figured out the Phoenix?? pretty obvious But in that other Post where someone compared SC Units with other Games and Movies. Their is the obvious one with the Terrans and Warhammer 40k. But one question isnt the Starcraft franchies older then Stargate??
The series on tv, yes. The movie? No.
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On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
Goliath is obviously from the Bible. I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are), but obviously Thor, Odin, Loki come from Norse Mythology (along with Viking).
I dunno, it's pretty common for videogames to use things like that. Gotta make things sound cool, latin, greek, and mythologies are good for that sort of thing.
Banshees and Wraiths are mythological creatures from Ireland and they originated with Celtic mythology iirc.
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The look of Kerrigan is based on the Medusa.
Also she mentions "my stare could turn you to ashes" or something to Zeratul, I believe that's clearly an apology to Medusa's power of transforming men into stone.
//tx
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On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Guys... What the heck.
I just participated in Ancient Greek classes and was amazed on how many parallels you can see to SC names and Greek vocabulary, and I just wanted to share this because it made me giggle and I hoped it would make you too. THOUGH it's clear that the prefix "chrono" is obvious, and the most terms are common in English, my surprise was how Greek words are exactly identical to SC proper nouns.
So please forgive my attempt, I'm just a bit shocked on how much hate is in this thread.
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On April 06 2011 23:45 Jombozeus wrote:
Unfortunately for you:
1. Chrono- is a prefix to many words involving time, such as chronology
2. Pylon is an english word meaning the exact same thing
3. Archon is an english word
4. Proto- is a prefix for many english words involving firsts, such as prototype
5. Agriculture
As already mentioned, you will find links like this in ANY random essay or even scientific paper because english has inherited a lot from greek anyways.
Chronology does not use a suffix. It is used practically verbatim from greek. In any case both chrono- and -logy are respectively a greek prefix and suffix.
Proto is a greek suffix (type is a greek word too) , archon and pylon are greek words just the same as burrito is a spanish word. I dont suspect greek people consider "hamburger" a greek word when they say it.
Here is the thing. If you wanna make something sound cool you use words from another language (latin and greek are the most suitable). That is a fact. My understanding is that the interest of the OP is sharing knowledge. Whats your reason for being a total party pooper? Why don't you let the people who wanna know shit discuss this while people like you who don't wanna know shit ignore the topic?
p.s according to this zealot is greek http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealotry
p.s.2 the agriculture thing was just dumb. using a different word using the greek word to prove that its an english word is at least silly.
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On April 07 2011 04:01 PlosionCornu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 00:57 lololol wrote:On April 06 2011 23:33 Eishi_Ki wrote:On April 06 2011 23:27 naamis wrote:
Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him. Hellion is actually an upstart or rebellious person It most likely just comes from hell, they are armed with an infernal flamethrower and inferno means hell/large fire, which fits both the name of the hellion and it's purpose. Helios = sun? And right, Vespene might come from the latin's term for evening (vesper).
Doesn't have the double L and isn't connected with infernal.
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This is interesting, but a lot of english is based off greek/ latin so you can say that about most words, but some of them are still intersting good work!!
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On April 07 2011 04:58 TimeSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 03:42 TimeSpiral wrote:On April 07 2011 02:29 Typhon wrote:On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Pylon is the english word for the towers used to hold up power lines... that seems pretty obvious that the towers that emit protoss power are called pylons: + Show Spoiler +And it's pretty obvious that Protoss culture is derived from various historical civilizations. Zealot: militant jewish sect that revolted against the Romans Dragoon: generic term for mounted infantry/light cavalry/armored recon (more modern use) Templar: Christian military order from Middle Ages Archon: Greek magistrate Praetor: Roman magistrate/commander You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious. Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements.
BansheeLEFT: The Orca from the Command & Conquer series. RIGHT: Banshee (SC2)
StargateLEFT: The infamous Stargate from the aptly titled Stargate series RIGHT: Stargate (SC2)
ColossusLEFT: The "Tri-Pod" from War of the Worlds RIGHT: Colossus (SC2)
GoliathLEFT: AT-ST Walker from Star Wars RIGHT: Goliath (SC2)
HellionLEFT: Flame Tanks from Command & Conquer RIGHT: Hellion
NexusLEFT: A Goa'Uld Ha'Tak from, yet again, the Stargate franchise RIGHT: Nexus (SC2) NOTE: An alien race of ancients known as the Asgard also had a ship specifically called the Science Vessel.
The C&C throwbacks are pretty obvious as some of the development team came from C&C but it is clearly obvious that our beloved SC2 was heavily influenced by the greats like Star Wars and Stargate! No comments? I thought this was relevant AND interesting :p
Okay. It's already pretty obvious where some of these ideas came from like the colossus. That was already pointed out in the beta, so you're a little late on that. The goliath is a basic mech walker, and if you look at other mech walkers then that AT-ST doesn't look like a comparable example. So I'm going to say thats off. The hellion is a buggy with a flame thrower; I'm pretty sure the idea to do that was way before command and conquer so I'm gonna believe Blizzard referenced it to them. and wtf is that? The nexus from SC1 came way before that ship thing.
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On April 07 2011 04:58 TimeSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 03:42 TimeSpiral wrote:On April 07 2011 02:29 Typhon wrote:On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Pylon is the english word for the towers used to hold up power lines... that seems pretty obvious that the towers that emit protoss power are called pylons: + Show Spoiler +And it's pretty obvious that Protoss culture is derived from various historical civilizations. Zealot: militant jewish sect that revolted against the Romans Dragoon: generic term for mounted infantry/light cavalry/armored recon (more modern use) Templar: Christian military order from Middle Ages Archon: Greek magistrate Praetor: Roman magistrate/commander You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious. Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements.
BansheeLEFT: The Orca from the Command & Conquer series. RIGHT: Banshee (SC2)
StargateLEFT: The infamous Stargate from the aptly titled Stargate series RIGHT: Stargate (SC2)
ColossusLEFT: The "Tri-Pod" from War of the Worlds RIGHT: Colossus (SC2)
GoliathLEFT: AT-ST Walker from Star Wars RIGHT: Goliath (SC2)
HellionLEFT: Flame Tanks from Command & Conquer RIGHT: Hellion
NexusLEFT: A Goa'Uld Ha'Tak from, yet again, the Stargate franchise RIGHT: Nexus (SC2) NOTE: An alien race of ancients known as the Asgard also had a ship specifically called the Science Vessel.
The C&C throwbacks are pretty obvious as some of the development team came from C&C but it is clearly obvious that our beloved SC2 was heavily influenced by the greats like Star Wars and Stargate! No comments? I thought this was relevant AND interesting :p
These are all very generic.
For example a vehicle with a flamethrower is hardly a reference of any kind, just like marines aren't a reference to every game/movie/book ever that has marines.
If you just look at generic concepts you will find similarities in everything. There is nothing that is so absolutely original, that nobody has never thought of anything even similar to it before.
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Arcturus is a sun?
Hyperion is a moon?
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On April 07 2011 03:42 TimeSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2011 02:29 Typhon wrote:On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:Hi there TL, I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style. I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few. - πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
- χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
- ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
- τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
- άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria
Pylon is the english word for the towers used to hold up power lines... that seems pretty obvious that the towers that emit protoss power are called pylons: + Show Spoiler +And it's pretty obvious that Protoss culture is derived from various historical civilizations. Zealot: militant jewish sect that revolted against the Romans Dragoon: generic term for mounted infantry/light cavalry/armored recon (more modern use) Templar: Christian military order from Middle Ages Archon: Greek magistrate Praetor: Roman magistrate/commander You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious. Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements.
BansheeLEFT: The Orca from the Command & Conquer series. RIGHT: Banshee (SC2)
StargateLEFT: The infamous Stargate from the aptly titled Stargate series RIGHT: Stargate (SC2)
ColossusLEFT: The "Tri-Pod" from War of the Worlds RIGHT: Colossus (SC2)
GoliathLEFT: AT-ST Walker from Star Wars RIGHT: Goliath (SC2)
HellionLEFT: Flame Tanks from Command & Conquer RIGHT: Hellion
NexusLEFT: A Goa'Uld Ha'Tak from, yet again, the Stargate franchise RIGHT: Nexus (SC2) NOTE: An alien race of ancients known as the Asgard also had a ship specifically called the Science Vessel.
The C&C throwbacks are pretty obvious as some of the development team came from C&C but it is clearly obvious that our beloved SC2 was heavily influenced by the greats like Star Wars and Stargate!
Well the Stargate is way too simple. It's just a circular portal. That's it. Other than that, the design is totally different.
Honestly flame tanks and hellions are not alike. Vehicle + Flamethrower does not mean its a ripoff of flame tanks. Hellions are not flame tanks. I don't really see the connection.
Yea the Goliath is a similar thing. It's a just a walker-mech thing. The AT-ST doesn't even have arms. Their designs are actually significantly different. I guess you could argue by the nature of their legs, but that's about it.
Nexus is absolutely not a ripoff of the stargate thingy. Those two examples are blatantly based off of the egyptian pyramids. They're based on a common thing, not off of each other.
To be honest, I think the Colossus would look cooler if it had only three legs. What's this four-leg bullshit?
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Yamato-damashii – 'the brave, daring, and indomitable spirit of Japanese people'
Yamato is a region of japan, but it also has multiple meaning.
which led to the yamato gun.(yamato is also the biggest battleships ever made i believe, which took damn long to destroy at the end of ww2.)
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Blizz often do homages to other games and fantasy or sci-fi franchises, its a little nod to their heros.
And i love all the mythology stuff they use.
The goliath to me doesn't look like a walker from starwars, looks more like one of these bad boys....
![[image loading]](http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1074613272-00.jpg)
That takes me back... and they are doing a reboot!
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blizzard just put in random crap they found interesting... the immortal is a damn droid from Star Wars Ep 1 (the one that rolls around and has a shield barrier).
Blizz isn't really following a set pattern. just random crap put together to make it seem cool.
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I haven't read the whole thread, but have hydras been mentioned?
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Makes me think of the whole black athena controversy thing the US had a ways back.
the thing about it is, part of our modern langage comes from ancient greek. and those words did keep their meaning, somewhat at least. so, wether or not they're trying to reference Greece, there would still probably still be links to be made.
That being said, it's always fun to see things from the past still having some place today. Part of the reason why i'm studying history.
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I was sure that Starcraft was not invented by simple human
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it's english bro... english includes many other languages like greek, latin, french, italian etc... even chinese.
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On April 07 2011 04:57 Xadar wrote:
In singleplay, theres this roboter named A.R.E.S. i think Ares is some god of destruction.
Not 100% sure though
Ares is actually the god of war
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Blizzard uses all kind of mythology thermines in their games for unit names, items, etc. I noticed that too.
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On April 07 2011 06:50 emythrel wrote:Blizz often do homages to other games and fantasy or sci-fi franchises, its a little nod to their heros. And i love all the mythology stuff they use. The goliath to me doesn't look like a walker from starwars, looks more like one of these bad boys.... That takes me back... and they are doing a reboot!
Haha 31st century combat. Wow.
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On April 07 2011 05:35 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
Goliath is obviously from the Bible. I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are), but obviously Thor, Odin, Loki come from Norse Mythology (along with Viking).
I dunno, it's pretty common for videogames to use things like that. Gotta make things sound cool, latin, greek, and mythologies are good for that sort of thing. Banshees and Wraiths are mythological creatures from Ireland and they originated with Celtic mythology iirc.
Barnshee is indeed Irish. It's a female ghost or spirit which wails outside a house on the night where someone inside will die. Wraith is Scottish, and, as far as i know, it's just another term for any kind of ghost or spirit, with no specific connotations - i could be wrong though.
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I picked up on Chrono boost and Hellion.
Chrono-Time
Helios-Titan sun god.
The sad way I noticed this (I noticed it instantly): I played Age of Mythology:The Titans Expansion.
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YAY. Greek is awesome. Hope you enjoy learning it, Greek words pop up literally *everywhere* in the english language.
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well most names come from somewhere, usually something representitive of what the thing is, like chrono boost is a thing related to time, and the greek word means time, I don't see whats so amazing, thats how names are thought up, they don't just sit around and think of cool sounding words with no meaning
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The only thing I knew before is Protoss = first born, never knew about the rest. (maybe except the names as well)
Well found OP, well found.
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Don't forget the oversized Thor from the campaign called Odin.
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Thor being the God of Thunder, Odin being the God's Father in Greek Mythology.
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On April 07 2011 11:19 gR.Se7en wrote:
Thor being the God of Thunder, Odin being the God's Father in Greek Mythology.
Aren't you messing it up with Nordic Mythology?
//tx
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On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.
Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken
Well obviously that would be a unit for Zerg. Release the Gracken!
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Hahaha!
Seeing all these images is pretty cool.
On April 07 2011 06:50 emythrel wrote:Blizz often do homages to other games and fantasy or sci-fi franchises, its a little nod to their heros. And i love all the mythology stuff they use. The goliath to me doesn't look like a walker from starwars, looks more like one of these bad boys.... That takes me back... and they are doing a reboot!
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Woah, I love B5 and I never made the connection with the Void Ray. :O
Good catch!
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