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Joschka29
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany26 Posts
April 06 2011 17:37 GMT
#61
i got this from latin

NEXUS (participe form of nectareus) - to sling, to attach, to bind
Lathund
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden95 Posts
April 06 2011 17:48 GMT
#62
On April 06 2011 23:33 DoubleReed wrote:
Goliath is obviously from the Bible. I don't know where Banshee and Wraith come from (though obviously we know what they are), but obviously Thor, Odin, Loki come from Norse Mythology (along with Viking).


Valkyrie is another one from Norse mythology.
TSM
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Great Britain584 Posts
April 06 2011 17:50 GMT
#63
chrono boost and protoss are the best ones, good job and well done for speaking latin O.o
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dapanman
Profile Joined September 2010
United States316 Posts
April 06 2011 17:51 GMT
#64
Considering about eighty percent of English words come from Latin or Greek, I'm not really sure what the point of this thread is.
theBullFrog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States515 Posts
April 06 2011 17:52 GMT
#65
On April 06 2011 23:27 naamis wrote:
Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him.

So there is gas in them, WHY DON'T THEY COST GAS? lol.
thebullfrog
NorwegianRage
Profile Joined March 2010
United States71 Posts
April 06 2011 17:56 GMT
#66
OP just found that there is a lot of Greek in Latin, and a lot of Latin in everything. I was expecting something more along the lines of why some race has characteristics of Greeks or some other such thing.
ckukner
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkey54 Posts
April 06 2011 17:57 GMT
#67
Only American name in this game is Stalker
FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
April 06 2011 18:02 GMT
#68
On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?


My Big Fat Greek Wedding

And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words.

Dumb thread imo.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 06 2011 18:03 GMT
#69
Thor, Odin, Loki come from Norse Mythology (along with Viking).


I always liked how Valkyrie was the AtA unit for T in SC1 and Viking is the AtA unit for T in SC2. (Male / Female Norse warriors in mythology)
stephls
Profile Joined December 2010
United States241 Posts
April 06 2011 18:05 GMT
#70
This is better than the time that I found out the spells in Harry Potter are Latin.
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
April 06 2011 18:14 GMT
#71
This thread is funny.

I guess I took for granted that many of the word origins were from various civilizations.

The best use of what were at the time obscure words are old Edgar Rice Burroughs novels about the center of the earth, and Mars. He uses "helium" as the name of an exotic Martian city! Lol 1900 audiences weren't aware of the periodic table, just like starcraft players apparently aren't aware of english word origins

I like the research in here!
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
April 06 2011 18:15 GMT
#72
Hyperion: an ancient Titan diety from Greek mythology
Caduceus: Hermes' staff, now used as the symbol of all things medical (if you don't remember, the Caduceus Reactor is the tech that lets Medivacs start with increased energy)
Nexus: one of the Latin forms for the verb "to bind" or "to bring together"
Templar: comes from the same word as "temple", it just references their holy order
Vespene: As far as I can tell, it refers to the Latin word for evening. Take that as you will

And, for reference, roughly 2/3 of the English language is based in Latin, the other 1/3 is Germanic. It's kinda the bastard child of the two languages (due to William the Conqueror).
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joehsen
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark4 Posts
April 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#73
On April 07 2011 00:11 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 00:04 Chaosvuistje wrote:
On April 07 2011 00:00 tofucake wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:55 chenchen wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:41 canikizu wrote:
I thought that it's well known that protoss race is based on Greek myth and Terran race is based on Norse myth.

Protoss needs a unit like The Kraken. Imagine this: whenever the unit is being made, there's an alert (like nuke warning) that says: The Kraken has been released. Screw the mothership, give us the Kraken


You just said that Terran is based on Norse mythology and Protoss is based on Greek . . . then shouldn't the Kraken be a Terran unit?

No. The Kraken is Greek.


Actually, the kraken comes from the norse mythology. It was said to swim around the icelandic regions, I doubt the greek people had any knowledge of iceland at that time.

Kraken is a Greek word which means squid.


Oh my, this is making me so sad. People believing that a giant squid is part of greek mythology after watching 'Clash of the Titans' is sad enough, but going ahead and throw out half-knowledge (which isn't even true) one has obtained in a movie is even worse. As someone earlier said, kraken is the german word for squid.
TimeSpiral
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1010 Posts
April 06 2011 18:42 GMT
#74
On April 07 2011 02:29 Typhon wrote:
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On April 06 2011 23:22 AdunToridas wrote:
Hi there TL,

I noticed over the years while I played Broodwar and now SC2 that Blizzard uses many Ancient Greek words for their alien-ish style.
I list some up which I remember atm, I just wondered if some of you also got a few.

  • πρώτος - prótos: first, first of a kind => Protoss
  • χρόνος - khrónos: time => Chrono boost
  • ἀρχόν - arkhon: (which) ruler, leader => Archon
  • τήν Πύλον - tén pylon: (which) place => Pylon
  • άγρια - ágria: wild, uncultivated, uncivilised (feminine): => Agria


Pylon is the english word for the towers used to hold up power lines... that seems pretty obvious that the towers that emit protoss power are called pylons:
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And it's pretty obvious that Protoss culture is derived from various historical civilizations.

Zealot: militant jewish sect that revolted against the Romans
Dragoon: generic term for mounted infantry/light cavalry/armored recon (more modern use)
Templar: Christian military order from Middle Ages
Archon: Greek magistrate
Praetor: Roman magistrate/commander


You beat me to it. No one had mentioned the Zealot or the Templar yet, which are pretty obvious.

Also ... Starcraft seems to be purposefully blatant with its similarities to other games or pop-culture elements.

Banshee

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LEFT: The Orca from the Command & Conquer series.
RIGHT: Banshee (SC2)





Stargate

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LEFT: The infamous Stargate from the aptly titled Stargate series
RIGHT: Stargate (SC2)




Colossus

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LEFT: The "Tri-Pod" from War of the Worlds
RIGHT: Colossus (SC2)




Goliath

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LEFT: AT-ST Walker from Star Wars
RIGHT: Goliath (SC2)




Hellion

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LEFT: Flame Tanks from Command & Conquer
RIGHT: Hellion




Nexus
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LEFT: A Goa'Uld Ha'Tak from, yet again, the Stargate franchise
RIGHT: Nexus (SC2)

NOTE: An alien race of ancients known as the Asgard also had a ship specifically called the Science Vessel.




The C&C throwbacks are pretty obvious as some of the development team came from C&C but it is clearly obvious that our beloved SC2 was heavily influenced by the greats like Star Wars and Stargate!
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 06 2011 18:45 GMT
#75
Interesting post, but I think you're mistaken. It's clearly stracraft references in the ancient greek language.
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chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
April 06 2011 18:46 GMT
#76
On April 07 2011 03:02 FreezerJumps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?


My Big Fat Greek Wedding

And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words.

Dumb thread imo.


English is a Germanic language. Vocabulary borrowed from Greek and Latin is actually rather rare.
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PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 19:06:42
April 06 2011 19:01 GMT
#77
On April 07 2011 00:57 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 23:33 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:27 naamis wrote:
Helios was a greek god of the sun. Hellion probably gets his name from him.


Hellion is actually an upstart or rebellious person


It most likely just comes from hell, they are armed with an infernal flamethrower and inferno means hell/large fire, which fits both the name of the hellion and it's purpose.


Helios = sun?

And right, Vespene might come from the latin's term for evening (vesper).
eek
Profile Joined February 2011
5 Posts
April 06 2011 19:02 GMT
#78
On April 07 2011 03:46 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 03:02 FreezerJumps wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?


My Big Fat Greek Wedding

And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words.

Dumb thread imo.


English is a Germanic language. Vocabulary borrowed from Greek and Latin is actually rather rare.


Actually, while the origins of English are Germanic (the Anglo-Saxon roots of old english), it's heavily influenced by Latin and Greek via the church, and by French after William of Normandy invaded and conquered England in the 11th century (Battle of Hastings in 1066). From that point forward, modern English blends Germanic and Romance together.
brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
April 06 2011 19:05 GMT
#79
I didn't realize the Greek roots of Protoss. Very cool, since they were the first race the Xel'Naga created.
dapanman
Profile Joined September 2010
United States316 Posts
April 06 2011 19:22 GMT
#80
On April 07 2011 03:46 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 03:02 FreezerJumps wrote:
On April 06 2011 23:32 awha wrote:
whats the movie where a guy (the dad?) keeps insisting that everything was originally from greece?


My Big Fat Greek Wedding

And it's true, just about every English word is rooted in ancient languages, so this thread is redundant. It would be impossible to make a game without using any words that have no ancient roots. For example, "chrono-" is an English suffix for time. Yes, chrono comes from the greek, but chronoboost is more directly based on English words.

Dumb thread imo.


English is a Germanic language. Vocabulary borrowed from Greek and Latin is actually rather rare.


The words: 'language', 'Vocabulary', 'actually' and 'rare' all derive from Latin. Rare indeed...
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